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Sonny_LSU Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 8:26 AM EST
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.......we have won and our beloved troops are coming home, right?
JonR Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 8:47 AM EST
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Yo Sonny_LSU:

No you lost bigtime, can you spell M.A.N.D.A.T.E.

Also our beloved troops are stationed right where we need them the most, protecting Freedom and America.

JonR

Ps: You might want to thank our troops when you post, they deserve a "BIG THANK YOU".
AVB Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:38 AM EST
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3% is not a mandate, go see Nixon's second term. He won by 18,000,000+ votes out of a voting total of about 75,000,000. That is a mandate.
Cparker Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:55 AM EST
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I have no problem thanking the troops, THANK YOU.

As for protecting freedom and America in that big cat box of Iraq, your absorption of sound bits lets me offer you a bridge I have for sale, London Bridge.

Cparker
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 10:28 AM EST
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Cparker

how rude of me seeing you standing out there in the rain. come in sit down have a cigar.

i don't know you very well, but i like your style.

i will pay more attention to your posts in the future.
Charlie Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 10:30 AM EST
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Gee, that is an impressive olive branch that Rick is tossing out in the forum!

Charlie
SteveS Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 10:32 AM EST
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What are you guys thinking? ... would the two of you be happier if the fighting were taking place within the borders of the US ?????
Wagner Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 11:25 AM EST
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Sorry guys, the troops are not protecting freedom and America--they are being used as pawns in a mad political game lead by Rove and Cheney.

Tons of high explosives are now lost and presumably in the hands of terrorists. Previously they were under lock and key. AlQuieda is having a recruiting field day because of our efforts. We are also losing control of both Iraq AND Afghanistan, in case you haven't noticed. What do you think will happen with all the heroin now being pumped out of the latter? Do you not think that this will come back to hurt America in a big way? What do you think the drug money is being used for?--to support democracy in Afghanistan?

It is really sad what is happening and yes, the democrats played a big role by picking such a weak candidate--but please don't celebrate a victory when there is none to be had! America needs help, we are now 8th in per capita income, 11th in literacy--headed in the right direction?--I say we have a long way to go!

Wagner
MACS Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 12:36 PM EST
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I think i'll go outside and smoke a victory cigar again.

My 11 1/2 months spent in the persian gulf over the last 2 years entitles me to do whatever the hell I want.

For those of you who say thank you, I say YOUR WELCOME!!

For those of you bemoaning the fact that we are over there... build a bridge and get over it. 73% of the military voted for BUSH as found in NAVY TIMES!

There ya have it. Bolivar Corona Junior sounds like a plan...
bloody spaniard Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 12:41 PM EST
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^LOL!
JonR Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 12:58 PM EST
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Yo Cparker:

Your statement:

"I have no problem thanking the troops, THANK YOU.

As for protecting freedom and America in that big cat box of Iraq, your absorption of sound bits lets me offer you a bridge I have for sale, London Bridge.

Cparker"

My retort:

Hey I'm not an idiot, buy Londen Bridge, you would have to be really stupid to fall for that scam.

JonR












Ps: OBTW since you are trying to sell the London Bridge, does that mean you own it and if so who did you buy it from? Now if you want some real property I have some swamp land in Florida I'm willing sell. LOL
Cparker Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 1:07 PM EST
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JonR,

Not suggesting your an idiot.

But to answer your question, if you want the bridge, I will sell it you. You have to decide if I own it, going to the point of my post as to believing all you hear.

As for swampland ? PLEEZ, I was born in Fl., at night, but not last night.

CParker
SteveS Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 1:14 PM EST
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In pre-WWI America, the concept of a "Fortress America" existed ... the majority of our citizenry felt that the turmoil "over there" had nothing to do with us and that it could not have an impact on us ... there are some, it seems, who have learned little in the intervening years ...

The oceans no longer are a security moat that surrounds us ... our homeland was attacked by those who would love to see us fall ... we CANNOT adequately defend every nook and cranny, every airport, every train station, every boat harbor, bus depot, large public building, etc ... we CANNOT ...

There ARE no viable options ... we MUST take the fight to them ... and we must be determined to prevail ... this isn't a 60 minute sit-com in which a happy-ever-ending can be achieved in a few minutes, a few hours, a few days, weeks, months or maybe years ... if we allow ourselves to lose our will as easily as some suggest we do, we are doomed ... our country WILL fall and the terrorists will have won.

What on earth will it take for some to see that ... is there NO price too high for you pay in order to avoid a fight???
JonR Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 1:18 PM EST
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Yo Cparker:

Your statement:

"But to answer your question, if you want the bridge, I will sell it you. You have to decide if I own it, going to the point of my post as to believing all you hear"

My retort:

"Ps: OBTW since you are trying to sell the London Bridge, does that mean you own it and if so "who did you buy it from?"

Bush just won the last 3 open states today. Can you say MANDATE?

JonR
usahog Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 1:18 PM EST
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" AlQuieda is having a recruiting field day because of our efforts."

Wagner... first of all welcome to CBid..

secondly I hate to hear whine's like yours and using the troops to try and get your point across... Stop Already... Until you've been in their shoes, all you have to go on is what you've read and heard...

now as far as the statement above... yep them Terrorists is signing up so many left and right it ain't funny ;0) another read or heard observation... We haven't and didn't have one "NOT ONE" Attack on our Sovern Soil since 911 and if the playing field for Target Practice is in their back yard so be it ;0)

as far as the rest of your post GWB has 4 more years to get this nation back on track... he'll get'er done!!!

now back to the troop issue... don't post **** as to wearing these military members on your sh!rt sleave as an ace in the hole for discussion against this administration or America... I'm a retired troop and it anguashes me to see fella's like yerself use them as a trump card... instead you should be grateful and thank them!!!!!!!

I'm steppin off my soap box now!!!!

America Onward and Upward!!!!

Hog
Wagner Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 3:57 PM EST
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USAHOG:

I did not use the troops as my stump, the comment was made that they are in Iraq protecting our freedom. I don't fall for that "****" to use your language. Just how was Sadam Hussein going to take our freedom away? Maybe with the spitballs Zell Miller ranted about? Come on, anyone tell me how a weak, third world country like Iraq was going to conquer the USA. That would be the only way to take away our freedom and not very likely to happen. Let's be real and not use slogans. Think with our minds not our mouths.

No, our freedom is more likely to be taken by an inside job, by fostering fear of a weak or nonexistent enemy. I'll remind you of a famous quote, "Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order" -- John Lindsay

Let's be civil,
Wagner
bassdude Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 4:15 PM EST
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Wagner, those explosives you are talking about, well you don't know what you are talking about.

Stop watching the Today Show and get the news from the folks who are there.
EI Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 4:24 PM EST
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Author: Wagner Date: 11/05/2004 04:25 PM Reply
Sorry guys, the troops are not protecting freedom and America--they are being used as pawns in a mad political game lead by Rove and Cheney.


Have you asked any of the troops what they thought or is this just what you heard from Rather Jennings and Brokaw?
Charlie Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 4:38 PM EST
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Wagner

Let me welcome you to the board! Welcome!

Now learn a little bit about what is going on in the Middle East before you start tossing your "spitballs" our way!

The troops do not feel they are pawns,and there are several of them on this board and I am sure they will let you know how they feel!

Charlie
usahog Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:04 PM EST
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Wagner, Civil is....

and to explain to you would be falling on deaf ears... it has been well over an hour since your last posting.... if you wanted civil discourse on these issue's you would be making a better arguement then what you have here.. all you've done is tried to add your two cents worth and very lousey way at that... back up your statements with facts...

If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand...

I asked you a question above and will ask again because It was in the form of an discussion the last time

Have You walked a mile in the Military's shoes?? where do you feed your knowledge from??

Hog
Sonny_LSU Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:04 PM EST
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BUSH IS GREAT!

BUSH IS GREAT!

BUSH IS GREAT!

WE'RE #1!

WE'RE #1!

...yup....we're #1 alright.

You blow-hards have the foresight of a rhino. Let me ask you this, what's going to be your excuse in 4 more years when 2000-3000+ troops are dead and we are still over there? 'Caus it ain't endin' for a loooooonnnnnnggggggggg time.

BTW, I say we take the fight to North Korea in 10 years when we leave Iraq!
pabloescabar Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:08 PM EST
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by then well nuke'm cuz...
osage Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:31 PM EST
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You liberal "girlie men" need to get a life. We won, you lost. You are screwed for four more years. You want some cheese with that whine? Bush is the man! The troops are where they are because that is where the U.S. needs them. They knew that there was a possibility that they would be fighting a war when they signed up. That is what makes them so great! There job is to kill people and tear up stuff. If you can't handle it move to Canada or move in with Rickmaven. We all will be happy then. Sorry for the rant, but I have had it with all this anti-government bull****!
usahog Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:35 PM EST
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well said Osage... It is over and it should be a time for all to back our Troops and our Country United... instead all I see/hear is a bunch of Whining that really should be over with...

Hog
osage Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:39 PM EST
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Thanks, Russ!
pabloescabar Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:41 PM EST
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hey, is John Lindsay from canada ?
Cparker Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 5:45 PM EST
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Osage,

Since you may not have seen my post of congratulations to all Republicans, I exend it to you now.

I find statements of Bush's cabinet restructuring, especially Rumsfeld and Ashcroft as positive sign.

In a republic from which all Republicans derive their name, its rule by the majority with representation of minority views. So I keep wondering why these Republicans posts seem to have issues with views not with the "apparent majority".

The Republicans have the popular vote, to quote JonR, a MANDATE, right up their with the macarena, parachute pants, disco and what other waive swept the populace. Be proud of that. To paraphrase PT Barnum, no one ever went broke under-estimating the tastes of the American public.

CParker
EI Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 6:10 PM EST
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Author: Sonny_LSU Date: 11/05/2004 10:04 PM Reply
BUSH IS GREAT!

BUSH IS GREAT!

BUSH IS GREAT!

WE'RE #1!

WE'RE #1!

...yup....we're #1 alright.

You blow-hards have the foresight of a rhino. Let me ask you this, what's going to be your excuse in 4 more years when 2000-3000+ troops are dead and we are still over there? 'Caus it ain't endin' for a loooooonnnnnnggggggggg time.

BTW, I say we take the fight to North Korea in 10 years when we leave Iraq!


Come on sonny you can do better than this. I think you are losing your touch or maybe your just still in shock
Wagner Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 7:03 PM EST
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USAHOG:

I did not use the troops as my stump, the comment was made that they are in Iraq protecting our freedom. I don't fall for that "****" to use your language. Just how was Sadam Hussein going to take our freedom away? Maybe with the spitballs Zell Miller ranted about? Come on, anyone tell me how a weak, third world country like Iraq was going to conquer the USA. That would be the only way to take away our freedom and not very likely to happen. Let's be real and not use slogans. Think with our minds not our mouths.

No, our freedom is more likely to be taken by an inside job, by fostering fear of a weak or nonexistent enemy. I'll remind you of a famous quote, "Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order" -- John Lindsay

Let's be civil,
Wagner
Wagner Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 7:08 PM EST
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Guys this is my last post. If you can't bear to discuss issues without resorting to childish actions like name calling I don't need this board.

I will continue to fight for what I believe, but not with people whose minds are closed.

I wish you all luck.

Wagner
pabloescabar Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 8:02 PM EST
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yea, but who the hell is John Lindsay and where is he from ?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:31 PM EST
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Cparker

"JonR,

Not suggesting your an idiot."

you are so much more polite then i am.

RICKAMAVEN Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:33 PM EST
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MACS(SW)

"My 11 1/2 months spent in the persian gulf over the last 2 years entitles me to do whatever the hell I want."

yes it does, and if you will send me a mailing address i will be delighted to send you more smokes to celebrate being home. you earned it.

RICKAMAVEN
@HOTMAIL
.COM

RICKAMAVEN Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:39 PM EST
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usahog

what is with you. every time someone mentions getting troops home, out of harm's way, you say the same thing in different ways. "you are not honoring or respecting the troops." that's nonsense.

why do you keep saying that. it's simply not true.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:41 PM EST
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bassdude

and you have what inside information about the missing explosives that wagner doesn't know about?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Nov 5 2004, 9:48 PM EST
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osage

never has a more frueudian slip snuck it's way from the hidden recesses of the brain, directly to the fingertips.

"You are screwed for four more years."

i shall remember this. i will glow with it. i will think about it whenever i read your posts.

your secret is safe with me.
Charlie Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 2:15 AM EST
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"Wags"

Damn, hate to see you fold tent and run so soon! You need to have a thick skin if you are gonna fight the majority of the board, and they are actually a great group of folks....chin up and come back as Rick needs help!

Charlie
osage Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 6:15 AM EST
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Rick, That was no slip. "You are screwed for the next four years." That is exactly what I meant. You and your bleeding heart liberals aren't going to have it your way (hence screwed). The majority of the country got what they wanted.
Cparker Offline
#39 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 6:59 AM EST
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This presumes the repurcussions of bad Reoublican policy will end in four years. Unfortunately, we will paying for it longer well after "W" is out.

CParker
pabloescabar Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 9:00 AM EST
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paying for it ha, eye's be get'n biger tax return's. that work's for me cuz...
Sonny_LSU Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 5:33 PM EST
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EI, you got me.

osage, SHUT UP! PUNK!

Russ,......long sigh.......why should I stand united behind a lie that is responsible for the deaths of many?

again, tell me what you brain-children see in 4+ years!
Do you honestly believe freedom, happiness, and security will reign in Iraq, thus relieving our troops tp come home/North Korea???
osage Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 5:57 PM EST
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Sonny Boy! You wouldn't be upset cause LSU is #17 and OU is #2 and climbing would you?

Go Sooners! Yea Bush!
usahog Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 6:25 PM EST
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"Russ,......long sigh.......why should I stand united behind a lie that is responsible for the deaths of many?"

That is the exact response I thought I would draw from you Sonny.... Simple, use of the soldiers to add to your demoral against the Bush Administration... I ask you... how many civilian deaths has happened in the sovern Nation of these United States at the hands of Terrorists since Bush declaired the war on Terror and we've been succeding in Iraq??

"again, tell me what you brain-children see in 4+ years!"
I see a strong America, and a bunch of Liberal Democrats gettin another rude awakening at the election polls as they did this last time around ;0)

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 7:23 PM EST
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usahog

i shall post a picture just for you. it will be called just for you.
Charlie Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 8:22 PM EST
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Wow Russ

Whan an honor to have Rickie post a picture for you!!!!

Charlie
ilovemaui Offline
#46 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 8:35 PM EST
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Ha ha ha ha ha, I love laughing at democrats. You guys have your heads so far up your ass you can probably see Yasur. You could follow your brethren and move to Canada.
Cparker Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Nov 6 2004, 8:40 PM EST
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What ? leave ? Oh HELL NO. I'm staying right here just to make your life miserable.

You love Maui ? HI is a democratic state.

he hehe hee.

CParker
JonR Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Nov 7 2004, 1:38 AM EST
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"Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order" -- John Lindsay

My retort:

Those who suppress law and order always do so in the name of freedom -- JonR


JonR
EI Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Nov 7 2004, 4:11 AM EST
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"Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order" -- John Lindsay

My retort:

Those who suppress law and order always do so in the name of freedom -- JonR


JonR

I like that Jon

Oh and John Lindsay was the most liberal mayor NYC ever had
pabloescabar Offline
#50 Posted: Sun, Nov 7 2004, 9:56 AM EST
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yea, but was john lindsay from canada ?
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