I'm out for awhile. They're a good cigar, but if Rick is correct at $45.00 for the five pack, I'm out for good on this one. I can buy decent Cubans, delivered, for less. I've traded for a couple of Oliva Os and actually, in terms of dollar for dollar trade, paid about $9.00 each, but because I traded, I convince myself it's okay because the money was already spent.