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miamibum Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 6:57 AM EST
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miamibum Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 7:01 AM EST
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Sorry about that. As you can tell I, this is my first time on the board. I'm fairly new to the enjoyment of cigars and need help with an amonia smell on some sticks I recently received. Is there any thing that can be done to make them smokable? Also, need some guidance in finding a reasonably priced perfecto. Thanks for any help.
Charlie Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 7:06 AM EST
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Amonia smell, well they cannot smell as bad as an ACID, so you could probably give them to some one who loves Acids! Seriously, I would toss them. How did you get this "Amonia" smell? Charlie
miamibum Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 8:45 AM EST
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They had an amonia smell when I received them in the mail. I could not smell it until I took the cello off the smokes to put them in my humidor. As for the Acid line, I have never tried one. They seem to take a beating on this board.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 9:13 AM EST
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MIAMIBUM: send me your address and i will send you a welcome package. [email protected]
billmerit Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 9:45 AM EST
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The ammonia is naturally in the tobacco. The aging process lets the ammonia out. These sound like 'green' cigars, which means the tobacco was not aged long enough. I was just in Canada and spent $50 U.S. on a Cuban cigar that had so much ammonia, you could clean the floor with it. I think it was a counterfeit, but the Cubans are having problems with quality control, so who knows. Try putting the cigar in a bag with a spong with a little vinegar (NOT TOO MUCH) for a few days.
TaxMan1 Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 10:59 AM EST
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I think I remember that the amonia is suppose to burn off during the drying of the leaves and should be long gone BEFORE the cigar is rolled. Thus, no amount of aging will help these cigars? Plus, I wouldn't want to put them near my good cigars!
plabonte Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 11:01 AM EST
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Is your welcome package available to all newbies?
Charlie Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 1:00 PM EST
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I guess I never noticed the "amonia" smell, becasue I take the dreaded cello off (sorry guys, I am a non cello guy) and put them right into a humidor to age for at least a week or more, sometimes 4 weeks. Charlie
Charlie Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 1:01 PM EST
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Oh Rick, can I classify as a "newbie" and get some free ISOM Montecristos and R & J ISOMs? Charlie
melski Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 1:27 PM EST
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ammonia smell is causedby cigar being in it's "sick period". When a cigar is rolled it is smokeable right away (but with a much different taste than the "finished" product. You should go to a rolling event and get some fresh rolled (especially Mayorga maduros)). After about a week the fermenting process begins of which ammonia is a byproduct. This is what is known as "sick period". Cigar should be put away for a cedar nap, minimum of 30 days, but I would recommend at least 90 days.
Charlie Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 2:04 PM EST
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I was reading in a couple of my cigar books and it would seem that if a cigar is rolled, packaged and shipped without proper aging you would get the amonia smell, but if the proper steps are taken, you should not even smell "amonia"! Thus, buying older cigars and cigars from reputable manufacturers would prevent this annoyance! Been smoking cigars for over 7 years now and haven't encountered this problem. Charlie
miamibum Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 2:36 PM EST
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I appreciate all of the feedback. Fortunately, I did not actually place any of the "infected" smokes in my humidor. I will try a couple of the ideas received and will post how they work out. Hope I can return the favor some time. Any ideas on the perfectos?
ellesson Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 5:47 PM EST
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I recently experienced this for the first time with a cigar I bought for a store that rolls them on sight. That my also be because of this "sick period" cj
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 8:04 PM EST
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plabonte: usually not, but for you i make an exception.
follow above.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 8:08 PM EST
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charlie: to me you'll always be a newbie. after christmas i will order some Monte #5's and ONLY TO YOU will i send one.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 8:11 PM EST
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i smell vinegar in the house but it's the cleaning lady's floor cleaner
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Nov 28 2001, 8:12 PM EST
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Hold your nose while you smoke them.
billmerit Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2001, 4:17 AM EST
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Rick, tell the cleaning lady NOT to use vinegar for cleaning. Use ammonia products for cleaning. This is an acid/base kind of thing.
plabonte Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2001, 4:25 AM EST
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Smoke them in your kitchen. Then when your wife asks what that smell is yu can tell her you cleaned the entire place with amonia.
Todog Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2001, 6:42 AM EST
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How come I didn't get a welcome package? Waaaaaaaa....
Charlie Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2001, 7:51 AM EST
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Rick would probably give us both good bye presents if we promised not to post again! :):):):(:(Charlie
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2001, 1:09 PM EST
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my tile installer said vinegar but i am open to info. [email protected] if it is a secret.
10mm-Glock Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Nov 30 2001, 6:09 PM EST
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Just give them a 3 month nap and they'll be wonderful. This is pretty common with Mayorgas, I picked up a box of Mayorga Robustos about 5 months ago and they were nasty like that. I simply put them in the bottom of the coolerdor, remembered to open that coolerdor a few times a week to recycle fresh air. Now I've got some very tasty smokes. And someone suggested tossing them? LMAO!
Slimboli Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Dec 1 2001, 2:21 PM EST
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An excellent perfecto is the maduro made by La Perla Habana ... YUM!
MN_Mike Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Dec 18 2001, 11:51 AM EST
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They are not infected! They are young. Just stick them in the coolerador for about 6 months to a year and you won't smell the ammonia any more. Also they just might need to be aired out. I have bought cigars that were celloed, and paper wrapped, and then boxed and celloed again, and wen I smell them for the first time they smell like Mr. Clean. However after letting them sit in the humidor for even an hour or so the smell dissapates and all is right with the world. I had this happen to me lately with some of the Aristoff Black brizilian Maduro Mini Belis. They were plenty old, they just needed to breathe.

Mike
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