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Shut up and take your shot Russ. LMAO!!

Oh yeah... you no longer HAVE to take the shots.

I do and I don't care. I've had 7 already (the 6 in the cycle and a booster) and I am feeling absolutely NO ill effects from it. Started taking them in 1999.

Hope your doing ok these days Russ. I know you've had a rough time and I hope the Holidays have been bright for you.

God Bless our active and vetrans alike!

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Hog! I Still owe you a BIG package, and some $$$ and the longer it takes, the more I feel I owe! Are you ready???


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Macs it is hard to battle with an unarmed man.. LOL J/K Bro

"The CDC has done extensive research on the vaccine and farm workers were taking it as far back as the 60's. In most healthy people, side effects are non-existent. There will always be those few who react badly. I'm sorry you had to be one of them."

On this you were/are correct.. Vetenarians and hide workers had to take these vaccines and there at one time was a small amount of this produced just for this purpose.. but when the military ordered the contracts for these mass production of these vaccines the company Bioport was introduced (with silent share holders, guess who some of these people are?? ;0)~~~) because the known company MMPI who produced the small quantities for years could not fill the order of the government contract... also since war loomed in the middle east with Iraq and Saddam known for using biochemicals the experiment of adding a "squalene" to the vaccine to speed up it's (Vaccines) effectivness was also being added... Bioport was cought by the FDA in the early 90's for unsanitary conditions while manufacturing the mass vaccines... as the investigation kept going on the company (Bioport) it was also discovered that when they took over the wheel of MMPI, they were also changing the exp. dates of some of these lot numbers and sending these out as good vaccines, Now vaccines have to be stored at a certian temperature to remain effective and not have counter effects... 100's if not 1000's of these viles were stored at room temp 70 degree's or above and still shipped out to the military clinics for use signed off and lables changed to reflect different... (This is one of the known "Lots" I was given back in 1999... although everyone's DNA and metabolizem is different the effects "if any" from these shots effected many differently then others

Bioport was tarnished and closed up... (BTW the CDC and FDA also at that time bit off on the phony labeling etc. added to the propaganda of effective vaccine for Inhilation Anthrax, they also did not require a product safety lable to be added until 2002) Ta Da... Bioport gone and up pops Biothrax (same silent shareholders) just different company with a government contract... nothing changing but the buisness name.... Mass production and distribution back to the troops begin 2003-2004... end resulte many more veteran soldiers without their life careers.. all stripped away with one thing in common... they all had side effects to something that never should have been given them to begin with... how do we shut them up?? rule them as mentally unstable or boot them out for just cause reasons... that is if they make noise about this... where the hell did the military commanders go who had a set of Balls??

Ex-DAFB commander says troops used as guinea pigs
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/12/28dovershortpilot.html
watch the video's also...

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/10/10exdafbcommander.html

Again Macs I am glad you and many others who have had to take these vaccine's have not been effected by these... as far as being physically fit being the difference.. that's nothing to do with it... I used to buck bails (80 lb. minimum)and was fit as a bull for years leading up to my first shots 1999... I had already done 2 tours in Kuwait prior to this also with no illness's or side effects...


Now one more thing... post 911 the Anthrax scare... letters sent to Senators and Congressmen... remember?? this was pretty serious for Athrax to be sent through the mail... and to our elected officials... thus you would think these Senators and Congressmen would be the first to step up and recieve their vaccines... Guess Again ;0)

and why didn't they?? this was a serious a terrorist threat as could be?? why didn't these folks want to be vaccinated against it? it is also known that the Anthrax spores sent through the mail back then did in fact come from the U.S.

Now ask yourself... why is our Government spending 5.6 billion TAX Payers dollars to stockpile something that has not been proven effective and has in fact caused severe adverse reactions to so many Soldiers? But they are wanting enough of this to vaccinate the population of the United States? I for one cannot find the answer other then to say the Money's involved in this one??
but then again how are they going to make the American people want to take the Vaccine?? there will have to be another threat?? or is Marshal Law going to be declaired where WE don't have the rights of the Constitution of these United States?? WTF are our Politicians up to??

Just something to think about....

don't forget FX tv is showing a movie Jan 2, 2005 "Smallpox"

Hog

It's not making big news until now Macs...

there has been many or recent reports about this being a problem... it has made many military news articles, but as of late has been shown on CNN segment of Paula Zaune (sp) there will be more news coming out... but the battles in courts over this issue as I have been told are squashed by the DOD...

I was told early this past year by a JAG from another base... off the record... the DOD has deep pockets and to fight them is almost impossible they have many a resources available...

I told a few Col. I don't care if I have to dance on Donald Rumsfields desk I as a Human Being have a right to know WTF... So I'll let you know how the dance goes and what the outcome is...

in the meantime many Ill military members do not have the resources nor the right point of contacts to get the proper help... I was one of these when this all first began... so how do you say... they pissed down the wrong back and tried to tell me it was raining?? If my posting of these different articles catches the eye to even one Veteran who has been having problems and I can assist in any way... I feel it well worth the effort to give it a shot...

I know guy's who also took the shot from the same bottle of vaccine and they also have not had any effects from it... but I also know 3 people besides myself from my base who have had problems...

Hog