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ryantp Offline
#151 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2009
Posts: 4,567
for the better cuts, grilled on charcoal with salt and pepper. for something like sirloin, i like to "treat" it with soy sauce and garlic powder. tasty. mmm, mmm.
Burky4467 Offline
#152 Posted:
Joined: 12-27-2003
Posts: 875
Marinate in Olive Oil, Tony C's, Garlic, Salt and Pepper and Worcestshire Sauce or Pick A Pepper sauce, overnight, if possible. Cook medium! No steak sauce required.

Yum,
Burky
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#153 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
lsfire

WHOA nellie! is topped in the middle of reading your post with the respect i read all post uuntil i get to
"as much disrespect for Rick as it may be percieved that he has shown America or the President."

on the contrary, i have shown much respect for the country by disrespecting, if that's the word to a leader who is a noncompoop. if you belong to a group i don't care about, then i don't care who your leader is. don't put words in my mouth and then disagree with them. more later as i continue reading.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#154 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
lsfire

hello agian.

two things.

thing one

"What do you want, the president to go on T.V. and say I'm a **** for how I handle things?"

have you forgotten the temperment and ego and lack of humanity of the man, or have you no awareness of it. he is never wrong. he will not accept anything negative. he does not, like all other presidents before him, look to opposite points of views from his cabinet to give him an overalL picture. he doesn't read. he has the same lack of kNowledge he had in high school and college, where he wouldn't have qualified for a good student discount on his auto insurance, assuming with two drunk tickets he could have gotten insurance at his age.

thing two.

toby and i use the library downtown at 833 las vegas blvd, very near the piaute cigar store on main street. i trust when you are out of the cigars you have won on cbid you buy your cigars there. what say you thread jack and talk about that cigar store.

incidentally if adroomi or anyone else could f&^% themselves, they would be like the dogs who licks his balls. he does it because he can.
ryantp Offline
#155 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2009
Posts: 4,567
"incidentally if adroomi or anyone else could f&^% themselves, they would be like the dogs who licks his balls. he does it because he can."

heck, i would if i could.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#156 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
adroomi

a member of the commusnist party. as someone once said, i wouldn't join any group that would have someone like me as a member. groucho i think.

and i did this without cleavage.

this turned out better the the evoluition vs creationism post. maybe picture posts are the way to go.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#157 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
adroomi

a member of the commusnist party. as someone once said, i wouldn't join any group that would have someone like me as a member. groucho i think.

and i did this without cleavage.

this turned out better the the evoluition vs creationism post. maybe picture posts are the way to go.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#158 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
adroomi

a member of the commusnist party. as someone once said, i wouldn't join any group that would have someone like me as a member. groucho i think.

and i did this without cleavage.

this turned out better the the evoluition vs creationism post. maybe picture posts are the way to go.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#159 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
adroomi

a member of the commusnist party. as someone once said, i wouldn't join any group that would have someone like me as a member. groucho i think.

and i did this without cleavage.

this turned out better the the evoluition vs creationism post. maybe picture posts are the way to go.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#160 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
EI et al regarding steak

unless you have lived in california, you couldn't imagine how bad the meat is here. in the midwest, cows are slaughtered for the meat and you get good meat.

here i believe they wait until a cow dies a natural death and then butcher the corpse. result, doesnt taste like meat and is tough enough to sstop all but the newest of sink grinders. i guess our meat is really road kill.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#161 Posted:
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Posts: 33,248
RussellKaufmann

i'm sorry, i must have overlooked you.

"Jeez, you really are ignorant."

no i didn't overlook you, i ignored you.

hup4 Offline
#162 Posted:
Joined: 10-03-2002
Posts: 223
Rick,
I'm new to this forum in the sense that I never have responded to your ignorance before. I beleive you not only hate Bush, but you hate all Republicans, because you are a staunch Democrat!!! Although I do believe you have the right to say what you want, and I would certainly defend your right to do that, if you were only fair in your analogies!
Serial killers! What a great place to put our President...Democrat or Republican!
Do you know that History has proved that F.D.R. knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked? Do you know that he let it happen? Then after it happened he locked up all Japanese Americans!!! Took them all prisioner... for their own good! What a great Democrat...You should have his picture here too! Who is the only person to ever use a nuclear weapon against civilians...a Democrat! You better put Harry Trumans' picture up here too!
So you see Rick, it's ok to rattle everbodies cages as long as your fair about it! How many people died in Hiroshima? That wasn't enough then we bombed Nagasaki! Wake up Rickmaven your dreaming!!
tailgater Offline
#163 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Adroomi,
Feeling guilty?
I never suggested you were a molestor of children. My comment was in reference to the high number of crooked kid-nappers who are taking advantage of the chaos and lost children, only to make a profit in the black market. Maybe it's our fault for not sending more money more quickly.

As for getting aids, it wasn't because you were having sex with women. It's because people who feel a need to brag about a sophomoric vicarious lifestyle (at your age) typically don't take the proper precautions. And furthermore, venarial diseases are a law of averages.

And one last thing. Please don't tell me what I can or can not whack off to.
I may even try to do it with both hands tonight.
One hand will be a lawyer, the other a model with a hit single in an obscure country.

But don't worry: I'll be sure to tell you all about it tomorrow...
Charlie Offline
#164 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
"Oh Johnny, I forgot about you.....you can go now"!

Val Kilmer in Tombstone to Billy Bob Thornton!

I like my steak med rare, more rare.....onions and mushrooms are great-grilled and on the side! Lots of pepper and some sea/kosher salt!

Rick, buy your steaks at Costco, as that is midwestern beer- and choice at that!

Having lived in Kansas City for a few years, I know that the best beef comes from that part of the country...no arguments!

Russell, email sent! What other threadjack can I come up with......Has anybody heard of Peter Cincotti?

Charlie
EI Offline
#165 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
Posts: 5,069
for grilling. Which is the only way I do steaks at home
I spray both sides with PAM olive oil
And get the grill realllllllllllll hot before I toss them on. I have a steak hook to turn them

I do like sauted onions and mushrooms on the side

As for garlic powder....As much of a fan I am of garlic in practically every other entree, I feel that it takes away from the flavor of a good steak.
Kinda like putting a honda sticker on a Harley
the honda is good but it dont belong on the Harley
EI Offline
#166 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
Posts: 5,069
Author: RICKAMAVEN Date: 01/06/2005 03:03 PM Reply
EI et al regarding steak
unless you have lived in california, you couldn't imagine how bad the meat is here. in the midwest, cows are slaughtered for the meat and you get good meat



I'll will add that to my numerous reasons to avoid the left coast
Right up there with liberals, smog, and illegal aliens
ryantp Offline
#167 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2009
Posts: 4,567
EI, just to clarify, I would NEVER put anything on really nice cut of meat. Sometimes, however, a sirloin can use a little extra help.
EI Offline
#168 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
Posts: 5,069
Whenever I order a steak in a restaurant and they offer me steak sauce I ask "Why? are your steaks that bad?"
And beleive me I have been asked that in some very upscale steak houses
ryantp Offline
#169 Posted:
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I saw a guy use ketchup once, and I wanted to punch him.
Charlie Offline
#170 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
Any Steak sauce is for hamburger, or bad cuts, not for good pieces/cuts of beef! I use steak sauce on french fries (hate using the word french) and if they even try to put it on my steak........bam, Alice to the Moon!

Charlie
CulleyJC52 Offline
#171 Posted:
Joined: 09-25-2002
Posts: 369
Rick has out done himself this time.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#172 Posted:
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Posts: 55,610
Not really Culley...par for his "game".
Charlie Offline
#173 Posted:
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Don't give Rick all the credit, as the threadjacking has made this post what it is!!!!!!!

Charlie
DrMaddVibe Offline
#174 Posted:
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Naturally, naturally...
EI Offline
#175 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
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Now garlic mash potatoes to go with the steak is something I really like
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#176 Posted:
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Posts: 33,248
hup4

nice to meet you and read your opinions.

before you call me ignorant, let me remind you, i have said on many occassions that the democrats were no better then the republicans, which is why, in spite of your assumption, i am neither.

did FRD know there was a pearl harbor coming? damn right. he provoked it when he blockaded japan.

interning american citizens in a concentration camp is one of this countries most despicable and illegal acts, that is until guantanamo. this country never learns.

truman is a different story. if you research a little you will find the anticipated loss of not only american lives, but japanese lives that would have been lost had we invaded japan after completely fire bombing the country, the atomic bomb was a better choice.

please don't call me ignorant any more and i will be polite to you also.
qmechanics Offline
#177 Posted:
Joined: 09-06-2002
Posts: 1,269
Hello
This is disgraceful. There is healthy political debate and then the derranged, paranoid, conspiracy variety Rick loves to jump into.
One thing that brings a smurk to my face however has to be the insanity of RicK and the new left. Micheal Moore, Rick's hero or at least a major supplier of his picture posts , is the most notable spokesman of this progressive paranoid movement.He is a documentarian without much to say that is not wrapped in the tricks of the best and worst propoganda has to offer. For example, how many errors did you count in Far. 9/11? Enought that even Muslim friends of mine from Turkey and Arabia thought the film smelt like propoganda(He made Al-Jazeerah look respectable). This opinion was shared by my Russian friends as well by the way. What Rick does not realise is this action repels even right thinking democrats from their party(I am sure there are democrats on this board who find this as distasteful as many others do). Rick and those like him are their worst enemies. So in one way I am kind of amused that the once high minded intellectual liberals who chided conservative organizations like the John Birch society as crazed conspirators ( I do not disagree with the classic liberals on this one;Actually in the traditional sense of the word I am a classic liberal) have basically turned into the very beast they once tried to avoid. It is a sad day for Rick and his kind. Those who once claimed that clarity of thought(reason) ,objectivity, freedom, intellectualism and a greatness beyond the veil were among their highest principles and drove their achievements providing leaders like FDR and John Kennedy etc.. have caved to craven fears,scare tactics, judicial sophistry, and empty accusations heralding leaders like Al Sharpton and Ted Kennedy ...... Priceless
Q
justforfun Offline
#178 Posted:
Joined: 03-06-2002
Posts: 797
I believe I had this thread pegged awhile ago . . .


blah,blah,blah, yaddi, yaddi, yadda !!!!!

BIG yawn . . . .

Never been to Thailand, India, Sumatra, or any neighboring third world countries. Don't plan on going, probably ever. Friends, native to certain of these countries, have described them sufficiently for my decision.

Like it, nope . . . make that . . LOVE it right here in the good ole USA (and by the way I'm a first generation immigrant). Think I'll smoke my cigars (all legal) right here!!!
blackfoot11 Offline
#179 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2004
Posts: 9,593
just a simple question. i am simply asking for facts, for my own personel curiosity.

i don't need any excuses, or finger pointing, or bashing of any political parties. that's not why i'm asking this.

i've seen at least 1 person degrade the U.S. for the amount of money and help that this great country is donating.

my question is this; how much $ and help was donated by other countries to help with the 9/11 tragedy?

is there black and white proof of the numbers? and what countries? the very same countries that the U.S. is donating to?

again, just curiosity.

blackfoot

qmechanics Offline
#180 Posted:
Joined: 09-06-2002
Posts: 1,269
Hmmmmmmmmm

The blockade of Japan initially opposed to by the British was in response to Japan aggression in China and had its roots back in the 1930's. Japan had a difficult relationship with the U.S. as a result but Japan did not completely cut ties until later. This was not the only issue that spawned the Japanese attack nor did it telegraph FDR that Pearl Harbor would be hit on the 7 of December 1941.

As to the Camps:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p-45_Weber.html
"In the months following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, many expected an immediate attack against the West Coast. Fear gripped the country and a wave of hysterical antipathy against the Japanese engulfed the Pacific Coast.

The FBI quickly began rounding up any and all "suspicious" Japanese for internment. None was ever charged with any crime. Almost all were simply Japanese community leaders, Buddhist or Shinto priests, newspaper editors, language or Judo instructors, or labor organizers. The Japanese community leadership was liquidated in one quick operation."

This was after Pearl Harbor and perhaps in part could be blamed on the actions of the Imperial Navy. I agree it was not the appropriate way to respond to said actions nor treat US citizens.

I know Rick is not a Democrat but the people and sites he visits to aquire some of his pictures and ideas I suppose are clearly involved in the left wing of the Democratic parties' politics. Democrat or not (Perhaps an Anarchist?;-) ) Rick does sympathize with the thoughts mentioned by Moore and other such political pundits and orginizations like Moveon.org etc... .He supported John Kerry etc..... . Ok perhaps he is a independent progressive with anarchistic tendencies ;-) . I do not think Rick is ignorant.A bit skewed perhaps in his view of the world but not ignorant. It is just that he sees his side of the story.

Q
PS Of course I will trade cigars and sit down with him any time. This is about politics after all. I know he is very generous by reputation and has a good misguided heart. ;- )


CWFoster Offline
#181 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
Posts: 5,414
Rick, The US wasn't blockading Japan!

Adroomi. Good points! I cogitated on them forc a couple of days, and what I came up with was WAY beyon a threadjack! so I started a tread on the Misc. board under the title ugly Americans. Give it a read, it's long, and lets see what we come up with.
Cigarick Offline
#182 Posted:
Joined: 07-28-2002
Posts: 3,078
> I had sex with two woman last night
> both at once by the way
> I'm a little proud of myself for that one
> make sure and post some pictures of models you steal off the net and wish you could live the fantasy life you j*rk off to while the Mrs is in the shower and you are surfing the net
> the life I at times have the luxury by virtue of lack of fear of living.

LOL! Here's a newflash for you, Don Juan: the only guys who think banging every $10 skank on the Pacific rim is the Ultimate Fearless Fantasy Life are 19 year old squids who haven't been on WesPac yet! I think Asian women are generally pretty exotic looking, but I've seen the pics you've post over the last coupla years, and I gotta tell ya, I wouldn't bang any of them with my ex-wife's current husband's crank!
qmechanics Offline
#183 Posted:
Joined: 09-06-2002
Posts: 1,269
Hi

Rick's quote
"interning american citizens in a concentration camp is one of this countries most despicable and illegal acts, that is until guantanamo. this country never learns."

To compare innocent American citizens who were of Japanese descent and their internment during
World War 2 with NON-American terrorist combatants is disgraceful. To imply that the current situation at Guantanamo is worse than the Japanese internment is beyond belief. Who are these Guantanamo prisoners? They are mostly non American combatants (Only a few of the prisoners from Afghanistan or Iraq were Americans. Most of them could be labeled traitors ,in the traditional sense of the word, for picking up arms against America),who do not even have the decency to wear uniforms or display their intentions (A broken Geneva convention rule which is legal grounds to forfit their rights set by the convention and perhaps lead them to excution,read below),who kidnap innocent civilians (some of who were simply there to aid the Iraqi people) torture and behead them, who wish the death of America, who hide behind children that strap bombs to their bodies to kill more children( A largely Palestinian atrocity but it is happening in Iraq etc...... is disgraceful to Muslim,Christian,Jew, Hindu ,Athiest alike. I do not believe the Japanese AMERICANS behaved in such a manner. What have we learned???

I do not believe you have to agree with the Iraq war to see the difference. It is a mess;I agree but really????


Geneva convnetion Section 1 Status reads:
a) To be recognized as such, the armed forces of a Party to a conflict must be organized and placed under a command responsible to that Party for the conduct of its subordinates, even if that Party is represented by a government or other authority not recognized by the adverse Party. In addition, these armed forces must be subject to an internal disciplinary system which, inter alia, enforces compliance with the rules of internationallaw applicable in armed conflicts. In particular, this compliance requires combatants to distinguish themselves from civilians, except in particular circumstances (see point c below) by a uniform or other distinctive sign, visible and recognizable at a distance, while they are engaged in an attack or in a military operation preparatory to an attack. Violation by a combatant of the rules applicable in armed conflict is punishable but if this combatant at least carries his arms openly during the engagement, he is not deprived of his right to the status of prisoner of war in case of capture. If the Party to which these armed forces belong omits or deliberately refuses to enforce compliance with these rules, it can result in all members of these forces losing their status of combatant and prisoner of war. (1)

b) The status or treatment of prisoner of war is extended to various categories of persons who do not come under
the definition of combatants as given below, or who are not combatants. The following are thus also entitled to the
status of prisoner of war:

- those taking part in a levy en masse, that is, when the inhabitants of a non-occupied territory spontaneously take
up arms on the approach of the enemy to combat invasion without having had time to organize themselves as laid down under point a) above, if they carry their arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war;
-persons authorized to follow the armed forces without being directly part of them;
-crews of the merchant marine and civil aviation;
-members of military personnel serving in civil defence organizations.[P. I, 67]
from

http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList104/046E2225AA0CE99DC1256B6600595193
Q

qmechanics Offline
#184 Posted:
Joined: 09-06-2002
Posts: 1,269
A good site about the proposed Blockade is found at

http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/Prelude09.html

Here is a time line just to be straight about all this

Nov. 24 - Japan troops landed at Hangshow Bay near Shanghai

Chinese retreated to Nanking

Dec. 13 - fall of Nanking - 200,000 killed

Dec. 12 - U.S. gunboat Panay attacked by Japan planes
helping evacuate civilians and Standard Oil tankers from Nanking

2 Americans killed, incl San Diego sailor Charles Ensminger

3 other American ships attacked; British ambassador's car strafed in Nanking

newsreel eyewitness evidence
Panay & Nanking caused FDR to act:
Jan. 3 speech to Congress

proposed joint British-American naval blockade of Japan, but rejected by British

Capt. Royal Ingersoll sent to London - beginning of coordination between US & British navys

Jan. 10, '38 - House rejected Ludlow Amendment - victory for FDR

Feb. - Plan Orange revised - blockade of Japan added
FDR transfered part of Atlantic fleet to Pacific
FDR asked how to freeze Jap assets - 1933 Trading with Enemy Act

but Ludlow Amendment, Reorganization Bill fights made FDR cautious

Sumner Welles plan for international meeting

Jan. 21, 1938 - March of Time released Inside Nazi Germany

Feb. 20, 1938 - Hitler announced support for Japan.
new foreign minister von Ribbentrop

formal recognition of Manchukuo in May

China war became internationalized like Spain.

U.S. public opinion more willing to take strong stand against Japan rather than Germany.
no appeasement in Asia like in Europe

May 17 - Vinson-Trammel Naval Expansion Act
this was second VT act - 1st was in 1934

$1B expansion of 2-ocean navy over 10 years - 69 new ships

authorized increase of 40,000 tons for carriers (Hornet, Essex)

to join 3 existing carriers (Saratoga, Lexington, Ranger)

and 2 under construction (Yorktown, Enterprise) done by spring 1939

and 3000 planes

expansion of bases and ports - San Diego to become "Gibraltar of Pacific"

Aug - fortification of Midway, Wake, Guam

newsreels: "Pacific Armada" including USS Lexington (Feb. 4, 1932) and Akron and Pacific storm (Feb. 18, 1932)

August 1938 - Korean border skirmish Japan vs. Soviet troops
but truce ended potential conflict

by 1938, Japan conquered eastern third of China.
Chiang moved to Chungking

puppet govt established at Nanking by March 1940 under Wang Ching-wei

March 1938 - Japanese general mobilization law
total war to free Asia from colonization and communism
China Lobby emerged in U.S.
Henry Luce - made Chiang Time's "Man & Wife of Year" Jan '38
Stanley Hornbeck - in State Dept - impt of economic aid

Henry Morgenthau - loan of $25m to China as credit - approv'd Dec. 1938

T.V. Soong - head of Universal Trading Corp. - paid agents

Thomas Corcoran - (who represented Tongsun Park in '70s)

James McHugh - U.S. naval attache in Chungking

Claire Chennault - retired AF 1936
Secret Air War in China
covert operations approved by FDR

Chennault organized volunteer Flying Tigers

led to development of more powerful P-40 ag more maneuverable Zero

his info sent to War Dept, but not distributed to pilots in Philippines, to dive from above

1940 plan for 500 plane AF in China, bomb Japan with incindiaries

but this "sneak attack" plan not approved by Stimson, Marshall

Apr. 1941 - FDR secret Executive Order created AVG

100 planes & pilots and loan of $50m

Chennault stayed in China - 14th AF, CAT - later became Air America
qmechanics Offline
#185 Posted:
Joined: 09-06-2002
Posts: 1,269
Another good summary on the situation.

"Japan pursued a policy of expansion in East Asia, joined the First World War on the side of the Western Allies and seized German holdings in China in November 1914. The post-war period brought growing social tensions and severe economic crises. Japan colonized Korea and large parts of north-eastern China. The US imposed a commodity blockade on Japan and the country expanded its reign over the whole of south-east Asia finally attacking the US at Pearl Harbor. All-out warfare followed involving heavy losses, particularly among Japanese civilians who were generally traumatized by raids with incendiary bombs. The strategic situation grew ever more hopeless for Japan and when the Soviet Union joined the allied coalition against Japan and atomic bombs destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki it was forced to capitulate. It had to surrender all continental territory and was occupied for the first time in its history."
adroomi Offline
#186 Posted:
Joined: 05-10-2002
Posts: 10,143
....Cigarick,
It was meant as a humor escape, not anything else, but naturally, you have done as most, and taken your one or two bits of info you need out of it, and overlooked the underlying meanings. And by the way, please read the thread again....I don't personally see how you take a Director of an advertising agency based in London and turn her into an Asian $10 skank. As a geography lesson, London is in the UK...that means United Kingdom. It's just on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, which is to your East. To find it, point your body north, and look to the right. I realize that the word London is obviously a place you would never be able to find on a map, so I'm helping you here. She had red hair and was named Lindsey. Very much 'not' Asian I will add. Quite attractive and very worthy of any of CaribbeanSouls photoshoots! Also, in terms of a $10 skank, I would say that the shoes she wore to dinner would cost more than a dinner for 6 at the best restaurant you can find in your town. The J-Pop singer by the way only slightly resembled anything less than beautiful, and again, if you know anything about Tokyo, you would realize that it's quite difficult to find a $10 skank (unless you go looking for the US, Canadian, and English go-go dancers that are imported in for the purpose of entertaining the elite businessmen) around. A beer will set you back $20 here my friend. This city is based on money.

Single, successful, and pushing up into the years now. I think I have much to brag about! I'm doing good, I'm living a dream, and I still kiss my mother and father, and tell them that I love them. I'm the guy that weenies like you watch movies about and wish you could be. Don't blame me for that. Would I rather be sitting in a nice home with a nice yard, and 2 kids playing in the yard..........of course my friend. But that's not what was planned for me I guess, so I make the best of what I have and call it that. What can I say, I'm Adroomi after all!
RussellKaufmann Offline
#187 Posted:
Joined: 09-13-2000
Posts: 732
adroomi -

Maybe you need to research and read a little, too.

We have done this before. It is simple, lookup the definition for murder, look up the definition for warfare, and look up the definition for terrorism.

Don't pretend that we are beating up on Rick. He is trolling and loving every bit of it. He still doesn't answer the questions asked of him. He doesn't even pretend (at times) to hold meaningful discussions.

RussellKaufmann Offline
#188 Posted:
Joined: 09-13-2000
Posts: 732
jekyl9
You state that I am right the 911 report doesn't mention the Iraqi invasion. But that is the whole point. You spout off that it does and use it to backup your own point. When are you going to get it that your arguments are poorly researched and that you haven't read the documents you claim support your view. When you do that, you lose all respect in my eyes.

Why were we there? WTF, didn't you read the posts in this thread that clearly define the evil that existed? Wow, that just amazes me that you can ignore all of that just because your family wasn't involved in it.

You stat that we are so worried about money. Since when? I didn't say a damn thing about the costs because the costs of helping others isn't relevant.

Maybe you need to read the many reports that exist showing Iraqi views that are extremely positive. Just because you haven't read them and heard them doesn't mean they don't exist. Again, research and read.

How did we screw up in removing an evil dictator guilty of oppressing his people, guilty or ordering genocide, guilty of invading two of his neighbors, and guilty of ordering massive environmental attacks? Are you that brainwashed that you can't understand that removing Saddam was not a screw up?

Research and read. Come on, it isn't that hard.

RussellKaufmann Offline
#189 Posted:
Joined: 09-13-2000
Posts: 732
Rick,

Yep it is easy to ignore somebody that knows what they are talking about when you are too busy making up rediculously rash statements and sure don't understand reality.

Go ahead and skip all of my messates. It just shows your inability to interpret reality.
RussellKaufmann Offline
#190 Posted:
Joined: 09-13-2000
Posts: 732
Rick,

Once again, you show your ignorance and your lack of ability to deal with reality.nice to meet you and read your opinions.

How in the world you can compare the interring of american citizens by the government to the imprisonment of terrorists/combatants is just an incredibly rediculous comparison. You continue to amaze me.

RussellKaufmann Offline
#191 Posted:
Joined: 09-13-2000
Posts: 732
OK, it is clear that Rick and others are just trolls. I will no longer feed him or them.

If he, and others here, actually believe the crap that he spews, then there is no sense in trying to reason with them as they are beyond reason. Kind of like frothing and rabid dogs can't be reasoned with either.

I would liken Rick to a rabid toy poodle.
justforfun Offline
#192 Posted:
Joined: 03-06-2002
Posts: 797
Cigarick: I have to concur re Adroomi's pic posts :)

Yech!
adroomi Offline
#193 Posted:
Joined: 05-10-2002
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RussellKaufman,
Murder is defined as "illegal killing with malice aforethought." This is the legal definition, not what you’ll find in the dictionary. In other words, in order for an act of killing to be considered “murder,” it must be done with the perpetrator’s prior hatred and despise of the victim either well documented, or able to be documented. It also must be documented as illegal in the country where it was committed. The act does not have to be committed by the person accused directly, it can be considered murder if the accused causes death through indirect method as well. Therefore, abortion for example, is not murder, due to the fact that US law stipulates that human murder must be considered only when the human is entirely a “self-being.” This means if the human is still connected to the mother, it cannot be considered a “self-being.” Also, it would be very difficult to prove that a mother had hatred and malicious thoughts against her own flesh and blood prior to committing the act. By International law, the Germans genocide against the Jewish people was never considered or proved to be murder. There was no German law prohibiting it when it occurred. The world created the “Law of Humanity” to overdo the lack of German law when trying the Germans for crimes against humanity. No person that killed a Jewish individual during the holocaust was ever convicted of Murder under any laws other than those that were “created specifically for the trials”. Something to think about I suppose. In this case, however, I'm glad we created that law.

So, to further the above statement, and not to agree with Rick, but rather offer a poor pityful (as I was called earlier) brother in his arguement, Let’s take a look at Mr. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, murderer, warlord, and so full of evil that he was feared and eventually chased by the Taliban themselves for killing more Afghans than he did Soviets! All while the United States CIA was funding him. Yes, just like Saddam, he was at one time our own little warlord who we provided cash to, regardless of his methods. I’d say that he fits the description of murder above, wouldn’t you, Russell? A very feared hater of the Taliban, and the Al-Qaeda network, he went on TV and told the US to leave Iraq. He said to let “them handle their own business.” He also took the money we gave him, and tried to flee the country. So, we send a drone to drop a missile on his head while he is fleeing. We miss, and kill a few civilians instead. This is the very first documented and proven case of the USA’s attempts to “murder” a person who was in no way a member of either the Taliban or the Al-Qaeda. Granted, he needed to die, but get this: Article 2 of the UN Charter as well as the US Military’s Laws Of War prohibit “the assassination, proscription, or outlawry of an enemy, to include offering money for said enemy’s termination or return to justice under “dead or alive” circumstances.” This beginning in 1976 after the US CIA was implicated in the death of Chilean President Allende, and a confirmed eight attempts on Fidel Castro’s life. Ford, Carter, and Reagan all issued Executive Orders banning political assassinations. Our man GWB confirmed this order.

GWB made a public statement of his hatred for Hekmatyar, the next day he made a statement that he would bring “fugitives” from justice back to justice “dead or alive.” A week later an attempt made on Hekmatyar’s life was publicly recorded as a failure. Put the three together Russell, does that sound like “Illegal Killing with Malice Aforethought?”

I’ll get to the next two definitions after lunch.

‘droomi
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#194 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
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qmechanics

i wish i knew what you are talking about. i don't recall any pictures from moore so he isn't even a
supplier of any of my pictures. neither is he my hero. nor are Al Sharpton and Ted Kennedy ......
.
other then that what were you trying so hard to say.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#195 Posted:
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qmechanics

The FBI quickly began rounding up any and all "suspicious" Japanese for internment

definition of suspicious - slant eyed yellow bellied little gooks.

you are not only wrong, you are wrong at the top of your voice.

i have met some of the former suspicious japanese. one of my doctors, a couple that own a book store, and a client ot two. they were locked up, their entire family life destroyed, their homes and businesses were raped and stolen.

"I agree it was not the appropriate way to respond to said actions nor treat US citizens."

how kind. how benevolent. how understanding of you to agree that it was not appropriate. you supercilious dumb ass. americans were arrested and locked in concentration camps in the desert and you think it probably inappropriate.

it's racism. it's illegal. it's immoral, and it hasen't been done since, until this administration started doing it again.



having said that we can still sit down, have a smoke and discuss anything other then politics, or religeon and enjoy the lack of animosity.

i only get "animose" here on the boards,.
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#196 Posted:
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qmechanics

let's see "NON-American terrorist combatants" i think that is a rumsfield phrase, and you parrot it. do you even know what it means.

"To imply that the current situation at Guantanamo is worse than the Japanese internment is beyond belief."

i guess that we the game wardens at manzanar forgot to torture the japanese prisoners to find out what hirohito's next moves were.

"Who are these Guantanamo prisoners? They are mostly non American combatants (Only a few of the prisoners from Afghanistan or Iraq were Americans. Most of them could be labeled traitors ,in the traditional sense of the word, for picking up arms against America)"

where did you get the most crap. i think there was one dumb young kid who got trapped in the teachings of the taliban.

"who do not even have the decency to wear uniforms or display their intentions (A broken Geneva convention rule which is legal grounds to forfit their rights set by the convention and perhaps lead them to excution,read below)"

if you are caught as a spy, not in the uniform of the country you are spying for, you are subject to be hanged. of course if you were an american spy during the second world war and wore the uniform of an american soldier, you might not be able to spy on and get any good secrets to send back in your secret radio in the attic of the house in which you were renting a room. these people were not even spies. they were enemy soldiers who couldn't afford uniforms and if they were non-combatants, why were they subject to arrest. i don't believe the police can arrest anyone for suspicion without due cause, unless you are a minority driving a fancy car and then you can be arrested for DWB or DWM.

"who kidnap innocent civilians (some of who were simply there to aid the Iraqi people) torture and behead them, who wish the death of America, who hide behind children that strap bombs to their bodies to kill more children( A largely Palestinian atrocity but it is happening in Iraq etc...... is disgraceful to Muslim,Christian,Jew, Hindu ,Athiest alike."

i agree and i'm not even one of the group you mentioned. the people at guantanamo are not the people you are refering to. and they have been there so long, that even if they knew anything it wouldn't matter anymore. it would be old news.
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#197 Posted:
Joined: 06-02-2002
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Okay...lets get back to the original reason for this thread.

We were talking about steaks, right?

Rick...you are buying from the wrong market. John Harris owns the largest feed lot on the country, about 35 miles west of my town. I'm sure if anyone has driven I-5 through Coalinga / Kettleman City..you have seen or smelled it. They handle their cattle the same way as they do in the midwest. Their beef is pretty darn good. I don't normally buy Harris though.

We help out 4H kids who hand raise their show steers until they sell it at the fair. We'll buy a half or quarter steer once or twice a year and have some of the best beef in the world sitting in our freezer for a couple bucks a pound.

If you ever want some great beef....go to a county fair and pay one of the FFA or 4H kids for his steer. The slaughterhouse will pick up right at the fair grounds and return to you a few dozen little packets of flash frozen beef.

Adroomi: cool for you to enjoy your life. As I've said before...Asian women do not normally appeal to me. Interesting you would get a couple "classy" women to pull a three way with you. That fact alone degrades their respect level.

I'm not going to start crud with you like some of the others here, but you have, in past posts, mentioned in writing that not all the girls you have in pictures are free. I think you quoted a price once. It sort of sets the tone for some people's impression of the females you post.

If I were in your shoes, I don't think I would do much different. Been there done that in a previous life.
adroomi Offline
#198 Posted:
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Rayder,
I hear you......although the remark about them losing their respectablility was unfair to them. I didn't "convince" them to join "me." They invited me to join "them." They were a couple that just wanted a toy. They simply used me like the piece of meat I am (sniff sniff) for their sultry, womanly pleasures. I feel so cheap now. Excuse me....I need a moment.....

Come on, just because people have sex, does not make them any less classy. We all do it, and we all get a bit kinky at times. It keeps us alive.....It's hard to imagine our mothers, grandmothers, and sisters ever engaging in anything else than missionary style sex for the purpose of procreation, but the fact is, statistically speaking, they have all three at one time in their lives possibly even engaged in an*l intercourse also. The classy Nancy Reagan was once known as the queen of Hollywood Blvd for her expertise in fellatio. She's single now you know....hummmmmm.

If you ever get a chance to visit Queensland Australia, then I suggest you try some beef out of that region. Now those folks know how to do a steak!

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#199 Posted:
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funny thing is them babe's from OZ , they like us american men better than them's bloke's they got's around their...
adroomi Offline
#200 Posted:
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Ahhh....you've had the experience of OZ I see Pablo. Yes, for some reason they like us. I get compliments on my "accent" every time I'm in the place. My accent being Chicago based, with a dash of Georgia, Oklahoma, Alaska, Tucson, and West Hollywood.....pretty much not noticiable.

I guess they see us just as we see them, mysterious, and foreign....different, exotic. Wait a minute, those gals are mostly white! I thought only brown, third-world, Asian women were fascinated by American men? Could it be we're on to something here?
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