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jazzman Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 6:24 AM EST
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i found a website that advertises that they sell duty-free cuban cigars. from all indications, they are located in the u.s.(345 area code). is this legal?
bigp7474 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 6:55 AM EST
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Real Cubans are illegal in this country, Canada on the other hand is legal, so maybe they're coming in from someone there. I have some real Cohibas' from my brother who lives in Florida, and these came in a sealed box with the Cuban stamp, be ware of counterfeits. Cigar aficianados' web sight describes in detail how to distinguish the real deal from the fake. Buyer beware
Slimboli Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 9:38 AM EST
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Florida has the highest counterfeit rate of any state, and 95% of Cohibas are fake. They are getting really good at making the counterfeits look real ... and unfortunately, Cohibas are the one most counterfeited.

Many counterfeits are made in Cuba, so it's still cuban tobacco, just 'farm' tobacco ... and not from the factory that the band states.
bud451 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 9:58 AM EST
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There's nothing like an authentic cuban cigar and if you are lucky you are among the 5% to 10% of the people that are over paying for them.....that's why I stick with Nicaraguans, Hondurans and Dominicans. Then again.....what the hell do I know.
jcrimmins Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 12:30 PM EST
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You know absolutely nothing Bud. But in this case, you're right. lol
rookie139 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 2:24 PM EST
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I have a real box of Cohiba Essplenditos (at least that's what its printed on the glass-top box) ;)
rookie139 Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 2:25 PM EST
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They came from Miami so they MUST be real
eleltea Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Apr 23 2002, 6:26 PM EST
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Never buy a Cuban at a bargain price, because there is no such thing. I will sell you a few of mine cheap, however, because you are a friend.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Apr 24 2002, 3:31 AM EST
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rookie139 i have one left out of a legit box of the lanceros from isom. they are my faorite, but the entire box was hard to draw. waste of good money and antisipashtin anticipation (atfer spell check)
eleltea Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Apr 24 2002, 6:44 AM EST
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antipashtin? jeeze, Rick, I thought you liked pashtins. The last one I smoked had that wonderful CA hint of burnt orange peel, and a long rasputin finish.
usahog Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Apr 24 2002, 7:06 PM EST
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All I Can Say is Ha, Ha, And HA!!!
I have never had a true Cuban that came out of the US.. Canada Yes, Mexico Yes (Nikkos in Nogalas MX, Only place with a walk in Humidor in the town.. then they also have the Famous "Gringo Drink" a Must) Florida has them but not on the streets for sale as far as Legit ISOM's... Now as I sit here and type this I Say HA Because I have been Treating myself to a Cuban Every other Night from Partagas series D's, Saint Luis Rays "A"s, or the San Cristobal El' Principe's <--- Fantastic Smoke that Poker turned me onto last year at the LOLH... But I have also been enjoying allot of my Aged Nic's and Honduran's and can Honestly Say things get Better with Age!!!!!

So Ya'll Keep Searching I Found Mine LMAO!!!!

BTW Jack, Rookie,Mr.Mean On my Return I am Planning a trip to Chi Town and will Look ya'll up for a smoke and Possibly a Cubs Game?? Me and the Mrs. want to catch a Ball Game and may just be takin a train up there!!! will let ya'll know when and where... I will be Bringing some of these Quality Cigars for you all to Sample :0)~~~

Laterzzzz
Hog
mhollowa Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Apr 25 2002, 10:53 AM EST
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Real Cubans can speak a little Russian. If you're dealing with a Cuban who can't speak some Russian, then you're probably stuck with an impostor.
gulliver62 Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2002, 2:01 AM EST
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I only got turned on to the hobby recently but travel overseas often. I have had Partagas series D #4 as recommended by a kind soul on the boards and they live up to the Cuban reputation. All in all though, the price makes it tough to justify them too often.
eleltea Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2002, 3:12 AM EST
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Every country in the world sells Cubans except the US, where only members of congress legally smoke them, as a general rule. I think they call it "fact finding." The rumor is that Pres. Clinton and that woman, Miss Lewinsky, were toying with a Cuban churchill in the Oral Office, though I did not hear the brand. If you find a good cigar store, outside this country, you will find real Cubans. If you find a bargain, or buy off the street, fuggeddabuddit.
daveyg2 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, May 6 2002, 9:42 PM EST
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NOTE TO ROOKIE:

Any Cohibas in a glass top box are fake. I have researched this fact in a few places. They are all in a solid wood box, as Cohiba never makes them in glass top boxes
Mr.Mean Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, May 7 2002, 6:09 AM EST
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It's sarcasm Daveyg2. Rookie don't know much, but he does know that.
Charlie Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, May 7 2002, 6:29 AM EST
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When the Baltimore Orioles played in Havana a few years ago, they were each gifted two boxes of Cohibas by the Cuban Government aka Fidel Castro! So once again the "prividledged" (help spell check) get the "ISOMS"! Charlie
daveyg2 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, May 9 2002, 11:09 AM EST
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Oh
adroomi Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, May 13 2002, 11:46 PM EST
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I suppose I'm one of the lucky ones.

Living in Southeast Asia, I have the benefit of an endless supply of Cubans. However, I will point out to you that there are plenty of individuals out there that ship them into the US to friends, so put your feelers out, and you may just find a good deal on some non-fakes.

Generally, if they are in-hand, you have a lot higher chance of them being fake. If you need to wait for them to be brought in especially for you, they might just be real.

Get in good with your cigar dealer and you might just get a surprise. There's a few guys out there that trade "US legal" ones (3 for 1 let's say) to their friends who live overseas for their own personal stock. Maybe one day, they'll invite you into their club.

I would never be so bold as to say that I've mailed them to friends many times.

Personally, on weekdays I smoke the cigars found easily on this board. The cubans are for the weekend.

Good luck.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, May 14 2002, 4:29 AM EST
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adroomi since i am the official taster, kindly send me an assortment of 12 authentic cuban cigars and i will send you 4 american legal cigars (3 for 1). if i approve, i will inform the board and you will have a nice business going. [email protected] for my address.
eleltea Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, May 14 2002, 4:48 AM EST
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What Rick meant to say is he and I are official co-tasters, and you should send us an equal number of Cubans, or a little more to me because he left my name off his post by accident.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, May 14 2002, 8:58 AM EST
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shoot me, hang me, kill me. make one litle mistake and it will be with you the rest of your life. they used to say you can make a lot of mistakes and not be labeled, but suck one, forget it.
adroomi Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, May 14 2002, 6:42 PM EST
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That sounds like a great deal! You get the good cigars, I get less cigars, plus an inquiry into my embassy mail priveledges and possibly a hefty fine. I have a better idea...I'll sit back tonight and enjoy the three greatest things on Earth...Canadian whiskey, Cuban cigars, and Thai P***y. One day, if you're nice to me, I'll mail you a Saint Luiz Rey for your birthday. The whiskey you can get there, and the Thai part, well, you'll just have to come here for that (it's cheaper per hit than the cigars are-LOL).
JonR Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, May 14 2002, 7:08 PM EST
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Yo adroomi I'd be extra careful with those Thai women 20/20 had a story on Thailand which stated Thailand leads all countries in sexually transmitted diseases especially AIDS. Well at least you have your Cubans. JonR
xibbumbero Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, May 14 2002, 8:11 PM EST
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What kind of aids,lemon or lime?
adroomi Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, May 15 2002, 2:08 AM EST
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I prefer Kool-aid myself. Actually I have to disagree fairly strongly with whatever 20/20 had to say. Thailand (as part of Southeast Asia) falls in fairly low on the AIDS infection scale. Thailand and the United States both have the same rate of around .6% of it's population infected. The US actually has more cases of infection per 100,000 people every year than Thailand. The winner (or loser actually) for this race is actually Sub-Saharan Africa at 2.2% of it's population infected. I mention these figures not out of guesswork, but out of the CIA figures released just recently (you'll find those figures on the net as well). I'm not defending Thailand (although I will if you get me started, Thai people are very AIDS aware and have done 20 times more than any other country in regards to it's prevention), just making sure our info is correct. HIV is a terrible disease and EVERYONE should be very careful with it. No one (even you all in the US) is safe (in fact, according to the above figures, you may even be at more of a risk depending on your lifestyle and habits). Enough of this though, we were supposed to be talking about Cubans, which by the way are wonderful cigars (at least this Bolivar #2 that I'm currently toking on is).
eleltea Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, May 15 2002, 3:21 AM EST
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Alright then, but what about mad cow?
adroomi Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, May 15 2002, 5:41 AM EST
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Let's leave my ex out of this.
JonR Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, May 15 2002, 8:16 AM EST
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adroomi: Why is it when someone mentions the CIA a red flag pops up, is it because of their history of truthfulness. JonR
adroomi Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, May 15 2002, 6:36 PM EST
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Either that, or more likely people watch too many glorified "conspiracy" movies. On this one though, the reports by the World Health Organization, AIDSWatch, and Unicef will back up the CIA's findings. Yes, Thailand has prostitutes, and yes there is a risk of disease over here if you are engaging in such activity, but these same reports show that there are more prostitutes per 100,000 people in the state of Tennessee than there are in Thailand. Be safe, smoke for enjoyment, and always trust your government, because we're here to help (LOL)!
xibbumbero Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, May 15 2002, 6:41 PM EST
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Adroomi,what part of Tennesee?
cwilhelmi Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, May 16 2002, 4:28 PM EST
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No Sh*t X, I want to know as well!!! I could do a little winter visit from SF!
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