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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2002, 6:17 PM EST
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Seems the house minority leader is wishing for 4 more months of corporate scandal so the dems can regain the House. Now that's putting America First. Liberal Style.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2002, 7:21 PM EST
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hard to have 4 more months of corporate scandel if it did not exsist.

wait until they get to bush and cheney
tailgater Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 3:49 AM EST
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That's a good point. But you do realize that the accounting fraud which has crippled the confidence in our economy is not something which began when Dubya swore into Office, don't you? Over the last 10 years, Corporations simply found Loop Holes and alternate definitions of everyday words to juice the books. Now where do you suppose they got the idea that you could get away with such a thing?
Charlie Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 5:51 AM EST
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"I didn't give them those corrupt and contemptable ideas"! William "Bubba" Clinton
SteveS Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 6:57 AM EST
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dishonest and contemptable behavior preceeds both Dubya and Bubba by a long, long time ... recounting how much I feel that I've seen this sort of behavior grow in every segment of society makes me feel old and grouchy ...

I take a certain amount of hope from a newspaper editorial I read 30 years ago ... I lived in SoCal at the time and the Register reprinted this particular editorial from a Philidelphia paper ... in it, the writer went on a great length, excoriating the president for his unethical, and even illegal actions and urging voters to consider these things on election day come fall ...

It was with no small surprise that in the fine print at the end of the editorial, I noticed the article was NOT talking about RMN as I and all the other readers had thought ... this particular reprint was from the year 1804 and the sitting president under fire was Thomas Jefferson.

I guess the author had no idea that Jefferson was destined to be regarded as highly as he is, with his visage on Mt Rushmore, the $2 bill and the nickel ... this is not to say that either Bubba or Dubya will find themselves regarded as highly as Jefferson now is, but to say that historical perspective has a way of often being a lot different than the short view ... in my lifetime, I've seen the view of Truman, Kennedy and Carter change greatly from that which prevailed while they were in office, although a lot less so for Ike, Johnson, Nixon or Ford. It remains to be seen how the presidents since them will be viewed, given a longer perspective, but it's pretty safe to say that all of them will look better in the rear view mirror than they did in the harsh light of real time.
xrundog Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 10:13 AM EST
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I don't like Gephart or Daschle. They are grandstanders. I stand by my prediction that bad things are in store for Cheney. I believe the President will elude scandal. The allegations about Harken have merit but are weak. It is also too long gone to get the public in a tizzy. Cheney (the evil duke) will fall. Who will GW appoint to replace him?
Todog Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 10:39 AM EST
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Hillary?LOL
Charlie Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 11:26 AM EST
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Gephardt is a low class snake in the grass, always has been and always will be! Charlie
calavera Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 2:03 PM EST
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Isn't his first name ******? How appropriate.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 4:30 PM EST
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xrundog wow. i agree with you on the political board.
can he appoint his father or his brother jeb?
eleltea Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2002, 6:13 PM EST
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I don't even see how Gephard can stand Gephard. Does even his mother like him? That would be mother's love in its purest form.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 1:09 AM EST
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eleltea

how
is

this.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 1:14 AM EST
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gephardt is so transparent, he doesn't cast a shadow. why even discuss him. i suspect gore will be back and if he is, i hope he has grown some cajonnes. can anyone think of any other democrat or republican that could capture our imagination, except mccain and kerry.
eleltea Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 8:48 AM EST
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Rick, I do believe you've got it! Good job!
Todog Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 11:24 AM EST
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Maybe your pal Nader will run again after he's done dealing with the NBA fixing games!
eleltea Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 12:09 PM EST
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Rick, I was talking about your HTML, not your political persuasions.
xrundog Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 12:57 PM EST
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Rick, a former Pres has never been a VP. But there is nothing stopping it. There have been former Pres's as congressmen and senators. I think GW owes his brother Jeb though. Or maybe Dan Quayle?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2002, 7:56 PM EST
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xrundog
i like quale, he will move george up the food chain one notch.
tailgater Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Jul 21 2002, 4:15 AM EST
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The point of the thread was to predict the behavior of the Democrats through the elections. Watch how they dwell on corporate fraud and pointing fingers rather than trying to stimulate consumer confidence. All to get the necessary votes. Shameful. No one with half a brain has ever given either side credit for being overly ethical, but to dessimate the economy in the name of winning an election is beyond contempt. ****** needs to be castrated...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jul 21 2002, 7:43 AM EST
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tailgater --i do believe the economy is what one might call decimated already by the current administration--calling attention to it and it's cause is a little more in our interest than saying clinton got a BJ.
Utz Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jul 21 2002, 10:22 AM EST
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"The point of the thread was to predict the behavior of the Democrats through the elections"



No big secret tailgator...fear mongering! This is the only thing that the Democrats know.



There is a pretty good article on the Dems possible strategy here



As for the economy... decimated? By the current administration? Naaa.



What I think has happened is a correction to the markets, not an economic disaster. And this correction was happening before the current administration took power.



I don't think the economy is as bad as the democrats wish it were, or as bad as the media and dems are/will proclaim that it is. But you can be sure that both will try their best to convince you other wise



As far as the "corporate scandals" go, we'll see a bunch of BS feel good legislation passed, and there will be calls for investigations that will just seem to go away quietly, as all of the politicians try to show that they care.
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