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mhollowa Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Jul 24 2002, 6:57 PM EST
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Are you a cigar collector and what does that mean?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Jul 24 2002, 7:04 PM EST
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if you have more cigars than you can possibly smoke in 5 years, you are a collector. if less than a 5 year supply, you are simply keeping your humidors properly filled.
mhollowa Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Jul 24 2002, 7:18 PM EST
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Thanks
xibbumbero Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Jul 24 2002, 8:32 PM EST
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What Rick said. BTW I'm a collector. X
delarob Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 1:51 AM EST
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I prefer to think of it as eradicator. 1 at a time.
Orv Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 5:27 AM EST
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I'm not so sure I would agree with that definition. I guess a collector would be anyone that "collects" something, but I would tend to think of a "cigar collector" as someone who seeks out the rare and unreleased items. Any of us could have a cooler full of dog rockets but not everyone one could have 10 and 20 year old ISOM's. Just my .02 ORV
Danno114 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:17 AM EST
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I wish I could afford to be a cigar hoarder
SteveS Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:24 AM EST
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Hoarder? I'd settle for being able to be a cigar SMOKER ... lol ... (I really AM spending a too high % of the budget on 'gars) ... 5 years, eh? ... my accumulation, impressive as it looks to some folks, wouldn't last 5 months at my current rate of consumption ... I'd be done in 90-120 days if I weren't cycling in new stuff all the time.

So, I guess you could color me a non-collecter.
Mr.Mean Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:40 AM EST
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I agree with Orv. Unless you got some rare or even thorough collection itemizing wrappers, sizes, origins, you just got ODO.
Charlie Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:46 AM EST
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I agree that rare, hard to find cigars and ISOM's could be considered collecting, not Lone Wolfs and Hamilton House! Charlie
xibbumbero Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:57 AM EST
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I have some 60yr old ISOM's, so that settles it, I'm a collector.LOL. X
goldengoose7 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 9:04 AM EST
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I always end up with a lot of smokes that wind up sitting in my humidors for months and even years cause I seem to go through phases of liking one or two brands at the exclusion of all others I have.

When I run out of the favorites, instead of smoking the other brands that have been sitting, I tend to order more of the favorites instead! Does that make me a collector or an impulsive buyer of brands I never smoke?
Mr.Mean Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 10:17 AM EST
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No, just troubled. At least your not living a lie like X is.
jd1 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 12:13 PM EST
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..i feel so incomplete; i only have about a 6 month rotation; that is, any cigar i pull typically has about 6 months humi time on it. i do a replacement in batches of about 20 at a time once a month; mostly through CI unless i want to splurge on some VSGs or SG Fuentes or other brand i can't find here. Hey X, i think you need to send me one of those 60 yr old ISOMs so i can do a aging verification test on it...
xibbumbero Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 3:45 PM EST
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OK, MR.Mean, put em up..it's GO time. LOL. Actually I have some Gurhka ISOM Dbl Corona's that I got awhile back from I don't know where. They're OK,Medium strength at best and alittle sweet. X
aberdeen Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 5:53 PM EST
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At present I have about 2200 cigars, but I don't consider myself a collector, but a precautionist. I see which way the wind is blowing, and eventually it will be near impossible to buy cigars online if at all,(that process would have speeded up greatly had Gore became president did you hear how he wanted to attack tobacco?) and the taxes will continue to go up, not to mention doomsday could hit and its best to be prepared. I don't collect in the sense that I pop the lid of a box every now and then, take a whiff and carefully put it back. I honestly plan on smoking all of them eventually and I won't shed a tear when I smoke a so called prized cigar, I will enjoy it and be done with it. I also have 6,000 books in my basement, those I do collect in the true sense.
Danno114 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:15 PM EST
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aberdeen rules!


Where do you keep 'em all?
Mr.Mean Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 6:53 PM EST
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You know, I consider Aberdeen my best friend.
Schatzihund Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Jul 25 2002, 8:32 PM EST
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At my casual rate of usage, I have about a ten year stock. If they cut out the internet sales though as CA tax sucks I may just give it up again as I did during the boom when a decent cigar was just out of my price range.

BTW, if you feel like a pariah to the govt. for being a cigar smoker, try owning guns. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to take your fun. :)
aberdeen Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Jul 26 2002, 6:26 AM EST
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I have a Vigilant cabinet that is over 6 feet tall and about 5 feet wide, it sits right smack in the middle of the living room, don't ask how I persuaded my wife to put it there. Schatzihund I have been curious, since you live in California, it is okay to buy cigars online and not pay taxes? Some companies charge taxes when shipping to certain states, and I was wondering if the internet is a legitimate way around these taxes, and if so CI/CB needs to start selling cigarettes online and make a killing off these folks in the east paying these new high taxes and California besides. Sure selling cigarettes isn't as glorious as cigars, but I see a big market there ripe for the picking.
aberdeen Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Jul 26 2002, 6:28 AM EST
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Me and Mean go way back, by the way if you are ever in the Denver area, I am very generous is giving my guest cigars, and if you were in my bowling league you would be set for that night.
Mr.Mean Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Jul 26 2002, 9:42 AM EST
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Your on!
cruiser Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Jul 26 2002, 9:57 AM EST
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well a start smoking 1 a week, just to make it.in Ricks category of collectors! WTG Rick you just screwed up my system,because I want to be a Collector!
Danno114 Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Jul 26 2002, 3:39 PM EST
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I'm booking a flight to Denver as we speak!
Schatzihund Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Jul 26 2002, 11:41 PM EST
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aberdeen- I have never paid tax on an out of state purchase. Not sure what the legalities are though. This state is one of the worst in the union as far as government is concerned. Can't even get a good horse steak in this state anymore. ;)
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jul 28 2002, 6:21 PM EST
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I believe a true collector would not smoke a rare find. You wouldn't see a beer can collector open up a 50 year old treasure, and you certainly wouldn't see a sports card collector put Mickey Mantles' rookie card in the spokes of his bike. Why, then, would you consider an owner of fine cigars a collector? Instead, I believe he/she would be designated as an enthusiast, much like those with wine cellars.
jwhopus Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 8:46 AM EST
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Your lucky! I had a small J.C. Pendergast 3' wide x 5 1/2' tall in our great room, my wife did not like it there! So I build a walkin humidor to hold my supply.
Now thats good thinking!
wjskin Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 9:03 AM EST
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OK, tailgater, I've got a Nolan Ryan rookie card which I (innocently enough) placed in the spokes of my tire (it hurts to look at it) at the tender age of 10. Where does that place me?

*I do believe I've set myself up here*
SteveS Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 9:11 AM EST
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I remember Nolan Ryans rookie season well ... if I'd had his card, I could easily have given it to one of my kids to put on his wheel spokes ... who knew Nolan would accomplish what he did? It sure as hell wasn't obvious right away ... similarly, not having a clue in the world what he had, my friend John's younger son lit an ISOM, decided after only a few puffs that smoking cigars was not for him and tossed it. Hindsight's a wonderful thing ... always 20/20
SteveS Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 9:14 AM EST
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jwhopus, would you e-mail me? ... I've been considering a small walk-in and would like to learn some of the details of your experience ... thanks ...

[email protected]
BMW Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 2:09 PM EST
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Have you ever noticed that no one ever "walks out" of a "walk in humidor"? Where do they go? Barry
BDS Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 2:45 PM EST
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Could you really call it a colletor if you smoked it? arn't we all just arsonists as we enjoy lighting somthing on fire and enjoy the burning?
BMW Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2002, 2:51 PM EST
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I do believe that the corect response to the collector question is that I am a connysewer and afishinado of fine ceegars. Barry
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