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Slimboli Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Aug 7 2002, 3:11 PM EST
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Wanyburger came back for a 'pit stop'.

I know that E-Chick asked about him (I don't know if she saw his post, as she didn't comment), and I mentioned in an eariler thread that he did not post much anymore becasue of the BS, and was quickly shot down by many, and was told that was not the case.



Consider this re-post of his message 'self-gratification' if you like, but I believe his message deserves to be heard again. I made it a little easier to read ... and am quoting him verbatim ...

"I really have been enjoying the Fittapaldi cigars lately. I could be wrong, but I think it is a H2000 wrapper. Not sure if that what is doing it for me. They seem to smoke real well, and by that I mean they burn cool and straight. Like most smokes they get a little bitter half way through, but I am becoming more and more accepting to cigars crapping out early as there as so few in this bastardized market that actually hold my interest (my taste buds that is) through the final inches. (my wife says the same about me)...



While I am on that subject, I find that on any given day I can grab one of those Canaria D’oro turds with no label out of my humidor and smoke that to my finger tips and it taste as good as when it started. For the life of me I don’t understand why they don’t make this smoke anymore. It is so tasty, and so cheap. I probably answered my own question. Seems like a fancy label and a fake dye job are what makes a cigar premier and or popular these days and not the quality of the cigar.



I guess we can also apply the same logic to some of the people that post on this site lately. I don’t get it gang. What the hell has been going on here? It seems like every time I check in, with hopes to see quality conversation, my disappointment grows. And for those who don’t know me, and don’t care, stop reading now I’ll save you my sermon on the soapbox. (I knew you would continue though) ...



Anyway, this site more and more resembles one of those books you find on the check out line of a supermarket. Don’t get me wrong, the humor and chiding and such is fun, but the soap opera dramas are ridiculous. What the hell did that woman (e-chick) write? Half way through her farewell address, I called my doc and asked him to prescribe me some anti depressants. I don’t know about you, but as a consumer and or hobbyist the last thing I want to read when I log on is this kind mindless BS drivel. She doesn’t need a cigar forum, she needs a friend or hell maybe a good shrink, definitely a stiff drink and **** maybe a stiff… well let’s move on ...



I want to read about cigars and everything related. I want to listen to opinions of those that smoke cigars. I want to enjoy the company of those who want to share their perspectives, ideas and experiences about the hobby and occasionally about their life outside of the cigar world. I want to call out the idiots who do not know a damn thing about this wonderful hobby in hopes to further educate them.



Many of you do this real well in your own way. I think that is what makes us memorable to some and forgettable to others. But you can’t become forgettable without being memorable. I know many of us use this forum to practice humor, writing skills, taking frustrations of home or work out on invisible people, or to see how much they can embarrass someone, brag, or maybe to justify their existence. Who the hell knows, but at the end of the day this group needs to decide whether or not to hold each other accountable to maintaining the credibility of this site.



The more and more garbage subject matter you let in, the less cigar people you will attract. Subsequently, the board will look less and less like it did 1-2 years ago. By the way, if that’s what the people here what to do, it is not necessarily a bad thing. Who knows maybe there is just no more to say about cigars.



Something tells me though that there is enough dissention among those who seemed to like the way it used to be, to address the problem. I really enjoyed this forum during the time I participated on a regular basis. I appreciate and respect many of the folks here (too many to name) and appreciate the times you’ve asked about me and my whereabouts. My reasons for not participating here have less to do with my new family and more to do with the type of conversation that takes place here. Too much crap to file through to get to one good thread.



It’s just too much. I can spend an hour on this site and find one good conversation where as a year ago I could have five good conversations in one hour all at the same time. I will always stick my head in from time to time to see what’s going on. Hopefully I can do it more often. In the meantime, best regards to my friends here. Your “pens” are as sharp as ever. I would be hard pressed to challenge many of you today. I beg of you to give me reason to try."



All the best –

Ryan

I apologize if this is old news to everyone here ...

But I for one, understand exactly where he is coming from, and agree with him 100% ... for what it's worth.

That's all ... and would like to see more of the 'oldbies' come back ...
fbcoacho Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Aug 7 2002, 3:36 PM EST
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Cheese-n-Crackers Slim, you trying to outdo War and Peace?????
what ever happened to "cut-n-paste"???

randy
Slimboli Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Aug 7 2002, 3:52 PM EST
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LOL @ Coach!

I just thought Ryan's post needed to be topped. I really do miss his wit and wisdom ... and many of the others that used to post here as well.
jjohnson28 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Aug 7 2002, 3:54 PM EST
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Thats just it coach.I think he's over the edge,h*ll now he's even cut'n'pasting threads that are barely even a week old.Whaaaa F'n Whaaaa,well cry me a river.My 2cents!
Slimboli Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Aug 7 2002, 3:59 PM EST
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I guess some things just go over some peoples heads. I said it was posted while I was on vacation, and also apologized if it was old news ...

Joking BTW, JJ !!!
jjohnson28 Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Aug 7 2002, 4:05 PM EST
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Geez Slim most people just top 'em.Look I'll show you.
Slimboli Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 1:55 AM EST
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I would have topped it ... but it was very hard to read without getting sore eyes ... LOL!

I just added a few paragraphs to make it easier ...
eleltea Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 2:58 AM EST
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Today's FNGs are tomorrow's FOGs. New friendships are forming today that will be old friendships next year. Someone will read a discussion of cello on/cello off for the very first time today and will learn something. Many will drop out, some will stay, some will leave and come back. A 13-year old kid with pimples will post another photo stolen from a soft-porn archive and claim he is she and inspire a hundred posts declaring alpha-male arousal. A strange angler will show up and attempt to poison the waters and many cigarfish will rise to the bait. I will write that my favorite cigar is an Excalibur III in natural and that it sometimes disappoints me and you will pat your Cuban-filled humidor and wonder what the hell is wrong with that guy. The hi-jacks, the wisecracks, the groaners, moaners and pretended boners are just sidetracks along the way of the internet cigar smoker. You know, this thread isn't really about cigars, either.
Slimboli Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 3:30 AM EST
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Ouote --- "I want to read about cigars and everything related. I want to listen to opinions of those that smoke cigars. I want to enjoy the company of those who want to share their perspectives, ideas and experiences about the hobby and occasionally about their life outside of the cigar world. I want to call out the idiots who do not know a damn thing about this wonderful hobby in hopes to further educate them."

Sounds like Ryan's message here, is he meant it to be about cigars ...
Slimboli Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 3:49 AM EST
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And now that I think about it ... maybe it isn't 'just' about cigars, since you may be refering to why I created this thread, and re-posted Ryan's message.

I agree with Ryan when he said,

" ... but at the end of the day this group needs to decide whether or not to hold each other accountable to maintaining the credibility of this site.

It does have a great deal to do with keeping the credibility of this site intact. That's why I joined this forum in the first place. Heck, if you don't want to have quality conversation about cigars, on a cigar site ... there are hundreds of BB's to chose from where you can fulfill your fantasies ...

It's like joining a Motorcycle Club, and wanting to talk Orchids. Sure, once in awhile ... but the focus should be on why you joined the club in the first place ... and that's why most folks come here, to talk cigars.

And Ryan made it quite clear why he doesn't post here much anymore ... and I'm sure many of the guys from years back that no longer post will say the same.

JMHO
Charlie Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 4:24 AM EST
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I vote for credibility! Now I will light my first cigar of the day....an LGC Wavel. Charlie
Mr.Mean Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 5:03 AM EST
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My question to Charlie is,,, how many LGC wavells do you have in your inventory.
eleltea Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 6:03 AM EST
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Slim, it isn't that I disagree with your sentiments or Ryans. This fish is always going to have bones in it. It's like the poker player who knew the game was crooked, but he kept coming back because it was the only game in town. JRBB is still full of "Connies suck" after all these years. HP is tough to stomach. Some of those posts would make the chick blush or throw up maybe. (I said maybe. How the hell do I know.)Anyway, they do me. But I visit both and take what I can, laugh when I can, leave what I can behind. I say the glass is half full. What say ye?
[email protected] Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 8:38 AM EST
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Ever hear of Barnes &
Nobles? 



 



   
They've got plenty of good books written about cigars and cigars alone -
however, none of which have a personality and much of a diversified opinion
about every aspect of a cigar, let alone the individual traits of those of us
that enjoy cigars. 




  • Aside
    from the books (most of which are boring, bland and tend to be like some
    posts on here - closed-minded and over-opinionated) some of you may also
    desire to purchase monthly magazines regarding the affections of cigars
    ... open the pages and what do you see? 
    Different opinions - promotions for certain cigars, solely a
    one-sided conversation and you're not able to provide effective feedback
    to either the magazine or the book - and last but not least ... lot's of
    advertisements from anything from Viagra to Herbal Stallion and Hair Loss
    prevention tablets that you take once a day (I think that’s why Rick buys
    these – for the discreet shipping of products).  You'll also see cufflinks, tie-clasps, and cheap $10.00
    shoes advertised for only $59.99.

  • I
    don't know about all of YOU - but I simply turn the page and move on if I
    don’t like the article or the advertisement.  If, by the time I reach the last page, I have read one
    unbiased review (several inputs on the same subject or same cigar), or one
    well written post regarding a particular subject that sparks my interest, I
    consider myself fortunate to not necessarily have learned something new, but
    rather gain a better understanding of others who enjoy cigars and the
    ability to use my own judgment to either agree or disagree with them.

  • IMHO
    - I would rather light up a Lone Wolf with a warm glass of beer amongst a
    group of friends than waste an Perdomo (my favorites) or a Tetan and a
    single malt scotch amidst a group pompous jackasses that feel that they
    and they alone control the world of etiquette regarding cigars. style="mso-spacerun: yes">  I also wonder, regarding some of the
    posts I read whether or not some individuals actually smoke the cigars
    they claim on a daily basis.  Just
    because you LIKE the cigar, doesn’t mean you can find it, and it certainly
    doesn’t mean your finances allow you to smoke it every day like some
    claim.  C’mon – this isn’t high
    school and NOBODY on the internet has yet to impress me – remember – it IS
    the internet.  On here, we’re ALL
    RICH, YOUNG, HANDSOME/BEAUTIFUL, have FIVE CARS, three MOTORCYCLES, etc., …..
    WHATEVER !!!!!  I personally don’t
    care – and if that’s what keeps the little ‘clicks’ together here in
    thinking they control the board – then so be it – if you’re that damn
    correct 100% of the time:




  • Why
    are you here.

  • Why
    don’t YOU own CigarBid.

  • Why
    don’t you start your OWN forum on your OWN server with ALL of YOUR peers
    and wannabe’s



 



    And - just so
you know - I've never smoked a Lone Wolf nor have I wasted a cigar for pomp
& circumstance. 



   
To each his own - live, smoke, enjoy it before it kills you - and if you
can look back and smile at one thing in life - and it happens that it's your
choice of obstacles to cross and which mountain to climb or which bridge you
burnt intentionally that makes you the happiest - then you have succeeded at
life. 



   
If, when you die like all of is will, someone on this board, or some
acquaintance from someone outside of your family takes the time to light up a
stick and think "here's to ya" - even though they may never have met
you - you still live on somewhere - when I go - as long as nobody smokes a Lone
Wolf on my occasion - I'll be happy. 



 



So, to make a long story short:




  • you
    can't change a book by it's cover

  • you
    always have to wade though a pile of sh*t to get where you want in life

  • it's
    your choice on where you want to go and what you want to believe

  • you
    have the freedom to choose your friends

  • style='color:blue'>if you don't like any of the above - I feel sorry for
    you because you must be one truly miserable SOB and that helps to explain
    some of the posts here a cbid
Mr.Mean Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 8:53 AM EST
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What's your point?

For someone to aspire for a more intellectual, thorough discussion about our love of cigars without someone inundating it with endless sexual inuendos that are predictable and monotonous is wrong?
[email protected] Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 9:18 AM EST
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Mr. Mean
I've read some of your posts regarding the pictures, cigars with women, etc..... are you now trying to play hypocrite?
cwilhelmi Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 9:18 AM EST
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my thoughts... if anyone cares



Everyone has a right to their own opinion as to what they want from this board, what is on this board, and who posts on this board. But since this is a public board no one person has the ability to stifle anyone else’s posts unless the system administrator deems them inappropriate. Therefore everyone has the right to b*tch about someone else, ignore or choose to respond to someone who's b*tching about them, and discuss what they please.



The underlying theme of this board is cigars; everyone on this board should either smoke cigars or enjoy the company of cigar smokers. Since most of us seem to be dynamic individuals I think we can handle conversations that do not directly correlate to cigars. These topics have ranged from coffee to whiskey and generally include whatever comes to mind when reading the various posts. But when it all comes down to it we all love cigars and have other things to talk about as well, and may want opinions or insight from our smoking brethren.



If anyone doesn't like the diversity of conversations on the board then don't read them, reply and state your opinion, or go elsewhere, which wany has chosen to do, if others feel the same you’re free to leave as well.



But this is just my opinion, and I welcome everyone and anyone else to rip it to shreds, or to stand behind it. I honestly don’t give two sh*ts which you choose to do... chris
SteveS Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 9:45 AM EST
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Spot-on, Chris & Jimmy ... well and eloquently stated.

If the whole bunch of us were sitting in a large cigar store with a lot of comfortable club chairs, there'd be various groups of us conducting diverse conversations ... each of those conversations would have a life of it's own, taking one turn and then another, few, if any, remainng "on-thread" ... conversations just don't work that way.

I'm glad to see others agree with me ... we're a large and diverse enough group that there will not be unanimous agreement on ANYthing, but you know, that's what makes this site so dynamic ... I would hope, however, that opinions could be expressed, agreed or disagreed with, but personal attacks have to be avoided ... that is one thing that can be depended on to drive a great many of us away to stay ...
Mr.Mean Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 10:51 AM EST
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Jimmy, I know I'm a goofy f^@k, and my question was not about me. I asked, what is you point.
GetYourOwn Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:16 AM EST
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I like everyone here. But I think Jimmy has a much better point than Wanyburger. If wanyburger wants to drop by once in a while to complain about things changing then, he can. But if he wants to take an active role in the forums credibility he will gain more respect from me.
Mr.Mean Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:20 AM EST
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Sorry, but I think the credibility of Wany is still much higher than Jimmy's. No offense Jimmy but YOUR last few post have nothing to do with cigars in the least.
GetYourOwn Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:28 AM EST
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Ya thats right Mr. Mean. Jimmy you are a looser! Mr Mean and Slim are my favs I must agree with them. Jimmy is a looser, Jimmy is a looser, Jimmy is a looser, Jimmy is a looser, Jimmy is a tighter, Jimmy is a looser... What was I talking about? Oh ya, has anyone heard from LGC Girl?
[email protected] Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:29 AM EST
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Mr. Mean - that WAS my point ....
goldengoose7 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:30 AM EST
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GG7 is sitting back and reading in amazement! LOL!!
[email protected] Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:31 AM EST
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GetYouOwn - Come get some of this - ANYTIME little man - ANYTIME!!! I'll give you a $100.00 bill to call me that to my face if you can still walk away afterwards ... do you understand THAT POINT?
Mr.Mean Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:37 AM EST
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And that's okay. I don't think there is a problem with random posting about non-cigar related subjects that we are all familiar with. but I also believe there must be some semblance of order that is cigar related in order to maintain a non-chaotic state. Cigar info is so easily attained here without so much rhetoric as you will see on other boards. That doesn't mean we need more rhetoric to make this board better, it doesn't mean we need strickly cigar related threads day in and day out. What it does mean, is there needs to be a balance, and i believe that weightier side should be towards cigar related subjects. They don't need to be all levied in a serious tone, but cigar related in the least.

So to weigh in against Slim is incorrect. He has nothing but the best intentions for this board and always will. He is not attempting to administer any sort of Marshall law. He is however pointing out a factual cancer, creator of chaos, a rambler of rhetoric. It's your decision to pay attention or dismiss the obvious.

Now go smoke a cigar!!!!
[email protected] Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:40 AM EST
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Mr. Mean - I agree wholeheartedly with you there - that was the intent and purpose of my post - somewhat of an oxymoron and synopsis of posts combined. To each his own without flagrant disregard to others and to eventually come back to cigars.
GetYourOwn Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:41 AM EST
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Jimmy, Ha Ha Jimmy dont know how to spell. Read all the words in my post next time before you pay me. (Dont tell Mr. Mean or Slim. I really like your post better.) BTW the other word is spelled loser.
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#29 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:52 AM EST
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GetYourOwn - ComeGetSome I say still - your intent was obvious. But when you want to make it personal, I will strongly suggest to you that you do it with someone other than myself. Not only have you shown the whole board that you're fickle, you're now trying to laugh your way out of it. Lastly - trust me - you wouldn't be able to earn the $$$$$. I'll leave it that and continue elsewhere with a more constructive post. Oh - btw - go to the picture posts ... heading is "Cigar Search ?" - last msg posted on 08/06/2002. Make sure you let me know if you'd like to play it any through any further and it might be a good idea to quit finger f*%King yourself with your keyboard.
cwilhelmi Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 11:59 AM EST
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Jimmy - I think he was kidding,



How about everyone take a chill pill. Remember, we all have similar interests and are friendly people by nature, we don't need any juvenile threats to further detract from the board.



Who else got their shipment today? My ISOMs should be arriving soon as well!! I think I have a problem, I can't stop bidding!! I now need to go get another cooler, damn you cigarbid, damn you....
cwilhelmi Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 12:01 PM EST
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the "further detract from the board" comment was tongue in cheek if anyone missed it... chris
Mr.Mean Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 12:09 PM EST
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cwilhelmi, you stay out of this mister, I'll fight you and all your cronie bastards, understand? By the way, you should be getting your smokes from me hopefully tomorrow.
cwilhelmi Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 12:15 PM EST
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LMFAO at Mean... quite a lively discussion today eh? Thanks for the FYI on the stogies...
xibbumbero Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 12:43 PM EST
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Chris,You and me both have the same problem. It's called CSBD(can't stop bidding disease). I have ta go get another cooler too. X
cwilhelmi Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Aug 8 2002, 1:05 PM EST
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maybe we should seek counseling? There has to be more of us!! Or maybe we should just smoke more stogies so we don't have so many. chris
Slimboli Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 5:53 AM EST
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GetYourOwn said, "... If wanyburger wants to drop by once in a while to complain about things changing then, he can. But if he wants to take an active role in the forums credibility he will gain more respect from me."

Ryan spent a lot of time posting here in the past, and intertained us all with his 'needle sharp' wit. He stopped posting because he got tired of it all ... and doesn't need to prove anything to anyone here. Those who have had the pleasure to met him, already know of his incredible insight, knowledge of cigars, and undestanding of 'just plain life' in general.

He will come back ... when the conversation here warrants a comment from him.
cwilhelmi Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 8:27 AM EST
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X - I just did it again!! Damn I need to quit bidding, but there's a couple of smokes I really want!! I just hope the overbidders stay away from "my lots." we'll see... chris
xibbumbero Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 8:31 AM EST
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LMAO at Chris. X
freecigars2002 Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 8:36 AM EST
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Imagine what this board would be like if all "non-cigar" related posts were deleted by the administrator. No one would read it except for a few select individuals, and they wouldnt be having as much fun.
I enjoy the constant bantering between you f@cks. You are quite amusing.

If you really want to talk about cigar ratings and related drivel go post at the board at CA.

This is just not that serious, and if you find it to be, seek some mental help.
Take your bat and ball and go home.
Anyone else who has a problem can move to Cuba, good cigars, no freedom of speech.
E-Chick Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 9:24 AM EST
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Free: You couldn't have said it better...
Slimboli Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 10:01 AM EST
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When will certain people around here get it through their heads that this whole issue has nothing to do with, " ... what this board would be like if all 'non-cigar' related posts were deleted by the administrator."No one here has ever said it has to be 'all cigrs', all the time.

Freedom of speech is one thing, but there are also guidelines that must be kept in check to keep this forum credible. As much as I respect what that stands for ... I can't agree with what the Aryan Botherhood is doing with the right of free speech. Sure, they have the right to say it ... but it doesn't make it right. I know that is a drastic example, but see my point?

Also, why would anyone here want to post to another cigar BB, when this site was designed and set up to do just that, be a 'cigar & related' forum ... in a retail cigar site to boot ... to talk about cigars and the like.

Parameters must be set, and kept in check, and it's all our responsibility to do just that ... or this site will become diluted to the point that it will be just one of the thousands of other sites that clog bandwidth.

I personally, would like to see that the calibur of this site be kept respectively above standard ... and mantain a little dignity, and still have lots of fun while at it.

It seems to me, if people don't want to talk about cigars and related issues (which could entail a great many topics) ... why come here?
rookie139 Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 10:22 AM EST
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I don't like to talk about cigars ALL the FREAKIN TIME personally...Gets kind of boring IMHO
Slimboli Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 10:26 AM EST
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Exactly, Rookie ...
SteveS Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 10:43 AM EST
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My sentiments exactly ...

no reason in the world it should be any different here than real-life, in-person conversations would be ... I equate this forum with the bunch of guys who regularly sit in the club chairs at one of my favorite local stores ... other than the woman who works next door in the jewelry store who comes in, smiles and says hello or even chats and harmlessly flirts a bit, we all smoke cigars ... we comment on our favorites (or those we don't much care for), humidors, lighters, cutters or whatever ... we talk about women (one guy even has a small pair of binoculars he uses to scope the parking lot at certain moments), the weather, our jobs, or whatever the hell comes up in conversation ... some topics are touched on lightly, then the thread of the conversation moves on as before, others change the thread entirely ...

Quite importantly, NO ONE gets upset by it nor does anyone take exception to the dark-haired gal in the often low cut dress whose interest is not necessarily in cigars ...

Why this forum should be any different escapes me entirely ...
Slimboli Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 11:36 AM EST
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Steve -- internet BB's are totally different from 'real live' conversations, in that no one can see body language, hear voice annotations or facial expressions.

Just out of courtesy, threads should be kept on topic for the simple reason of readers being able to follow them in order to get the information that the poster was trying to seek.

They have to be treated differently than face-to-face conversations, simply because it is a totally opposite form of comunication ... and should be treated as such.

That's why they have set up a whole list of 'internet etiquette' guidelines to go by ... so that the recipient of a post is not offended, or takes something the wrong way.

No doubt in my mind, that if every one of these conversations were done at a gathering somewhere in person, the outcomes would have been totally different.
E-Chick Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 11:42 AM EST
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can we say case closed yet?
Slimboli Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 11:46 AM EST
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... when things stop escaping him, I guess. He still has unanswered questions in his mind.
SteveS Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 11:47 AM EST
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that is to be hoped for, IMNSHO...
E-Chick Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 11:49 AM EST
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Stop the madness!!!!! AAHHHHHHHHH!!!
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#50 Posted: Fri, Aug 9 2002, 11:56 AM EST
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Slim - there's obviously a difference in opinion, so why doesn't everyone just agree to disagree. If someone threadjacks you can call them on it if it's such a big deal, and if a topic is brought up that you don't like then say it. But I say we quit kicking the f*cking horse, he's dead!! -chris
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