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AN UNLIKELY HERO? PERHAPS NOT.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Joined: 10-01-2000
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An Unlikely Hero
The Marine who found two WTC survivors.
By Rebecca Liss
Updated Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 3:13 PM PT



Only 12 survivors were pulled from the rubble of the World Trade Center after the towers fell on
Sept. 11, despite intense rescue efforts. Two of the last three to be located and saved were Port
Authority police officers. They were not discovered by a heroic firefighter, or a rescue worker, or a
cop. They were discovered by Dave Karnes.

Karnes hadn't been near the World Trade Center. He wasn't even in New York when the planes
hit the towers. He was in Wilton, Conn., working in his job as a senior accountant with Deloitte
Touche. When the second plane hit, Karnes told his colleagues, "We're at war." He had spent 23
years in the Marine Corps infantry and felt it was his duty to help. Karnes told his boss he might
not see him for a while.

Then he went to get a haircut.

The small barbershop in Stamford, Conn., near his home, was deserted. "Give me a good Marine
Corps squared-off haircut," he told the barber. When it was done, he drove home to put on his
uniform. Karnes always kept two sets of Marine fatigues hanging in his closet, pressed and
starched. "It's kind of weird to do, but it comes in handy," he says. Next Karnes stopped by the
storage facility where he kept his equipment—he'd need rappelling gear, ropes, canteens of
water, his Marine Corps K-Bar knife, and a flashlight, at least. Then he drove to church. He asked
the pastor and parishioners to say a prayer that God would lead him to survivors. A devout
Christian, Karnes often turned to God when faced with decisions.

Finally, Karnes lowered the convertible top on his Porsche. This would make it easier for the
authorities to look in and see a Marine, he reasoned. If they could see who he was, he'd be able
to zip past checkpoints and more easily gain access to the site. For Karnes, it was a "God thing"
that he was in the Porsche—a Porsche 911—that day. He'd only purchased it a month earlier—it
had been a stretch, financially. But he decided to buy it after his pastor suggested that he "pray on
it." He had no choice but to take it that day because his Mercury was in the shop. Driving the
Porsche at speeds of up to 120 miles per hour, he reached Manhattan—after stopping at
McDonald's for a hamburger—in the late afternoon.

His plan worked. With the top off, the cops could see his pressed fatigues, his neatly cropped
hair, and his gear up front. They waved him past the barricades. He arrived at the site—"the
pile"—at about 5:30. Building 7 of the World Trade Center, a 47-story office structure adjacent to
the fallen twin towers, had just dramatically collapsed. Rescue workers had been ordered off the
pile—it was too unsafe to let them continue. Flames were bursting from a number of buildings,
and the whole site was considered unstable. Standing on the edge of the burning pile, Karnes
spotted … another Marine dressed in camouflage. His name was Sgt. Thomas. Karnes never
learned his first name, and he's never come forward in the time since.

Together Karnes and Thomas walked around the pile looking for a point of entry farther from the
burning buildings. They also wanted to move away from officials trying to keep rescue workers off
the pile. Thick, black smoke blanketed the site. The two Marines couldn't see where to enter. But
then "the smoke just opened up." The sun was setting and through the opening Karnes, for the
first time, saw clearly the massive destruction. "I just said 'Oh, my God, it's totally gone.' " With the
sudden parting of the smoke, Karnes and Thomas entered the pile. "We just disappeared into the
smoke—and we ran."

They climbed over the tangled steel and began looking into voids. They saw no one else
searching the pile—the rescue workers having obeyed the order to leave the area. "United States
Marines," Karnes began shouting. "If you can hear us, yell or tap!"

Over and over, Karnes shouted the words. Then he would pause and listen. Debris was shifting
and parts of the building were collapsing further. Fires burned all around. "I just had a sense, an
overwhelming sense come over me that we were walking on hallowed ground, that tens of
thousands of people could be trapped and dead beneath us," he said.

After about an hour of searching and yelling, Karnes stopped.

"Be quiet," he told Thomas, "I think I can hear something."

He yelled again. "We can hear you. Yell louder." He heard a faint muffled sound in the distance.

"Keep yelling. We can hear you." Karnes and Thomas zeroed in on the sound.

"We're over here," they heard.

Two Port Authority police officers, Will Jimeno and Sgt. John McLoughlin, were buried in the
center of the World Trade Center ruins, 20 feet below the surface. They could be heard but not
seen. By jumping into a larger opening, Karnes could hear Jimeno better. But he still couldn't see
him. Karnes sent Thomas to look for help. Then he used his cell phone to call his wife, Rosemary,
in Stamford and his sister Joy in Pittsburgh. (He thought they could work the phones and get
through to New York police headquarters.)

"Don't leave us," Officer Jimeno pleaded. He later said he feared Karnes' voice would trail away,
as had that of another potential rescuer hours earlier. It was now about 7 p.m. and Jimeno and
McLoughlin had been trapped for roughly nine hours. Karnes stayed with them, talking to them
until help arrived, in the form of Chuck Sereika, a former paramedic with an expired license who
put pulled his old uniform out of his closet and came to the site. Ten minutes later, Scott Strauss
and Paddy McGee, officers with the elite Emergency Service Unit of the NYPD, also arrived.

The story of how Strauss and Sereika spent three hours digging Jimeno out of the debris, which
constantly threatened to collapse, has been well told in the New York Times and elsewhere. At
one point, all they had with which to dig out Jimeno were a pair of handcuffs. Karnes stood by,
helping pass tools to Strauss, offering his Marine K-Bar knife when it looked as if they might have
to amputate Jimeno's leg to free him. (After Jimeno was finally pulled out, another team of cops
worked for six more hours to free McLoughlin, who was buried deeper in the pile.)

Karnes left the site that night when Jimeno was rescued and went with him to the hospital. While
doctors treated the injured cop, Karnes grabbed a few hours sleep on an empty bed in the
hospital psychiatric ward. While he slept, the hospital cleaned and pressed his uniform.

******

Today, on the anniversary of the attack and the rescue, officers Jimeno and Strauss will be part of
the formal "Top Cop" ceremony at the New York City Center Theater. Earlier the two appeared on
a nationally televised episode of America's Most Wanted. Jimeno and McLoughlin appeared this
week on the Today show. They are heroes.

Today, Dave Karnes will be speaking at the Maranatha Bible Baptist Church in Wilkinsburg,
Penn., near where he grew up. He sounds excited, over the phone, talking about the upcoming
ceremony. Karnes is a hero, too.

But it's also clear Karnes is a hero in a smaller, less national, less public, less publicized way than
the cops and firefighters are heroes. He's hardly been overlooked—the program I work for, 60
Minutes II, interviewed him as part of a piece on Jimeno's rescue—but the great televised glory
machine has so far not picked him. Why? One reason seems obvious—the cops and firefighters
are part of big, respected, institutional support networks. Americans are grateful for the sacrifices
their entire organizations made a year ago. Plus, the police and firefighting institutions are tribal
brotherhoods. The firefighters help and support and console each other; the cops do the same.
They find it harder to make room for outsiders like Karnes (or Chuck Sereika). And, it must be
said, at some macho level it's vaguely embarrassing that the professional rescuers weren't the
ones who found the two survivors. While the pros were pulled back out of legitimate caution, the
job fell to an outsider, who drove down from Connecticut and just walked onto the burning pile.

Columnist Stewart Alsop once famously identified two rare types of soldiers, the "crazy brave" and
the "phony tough." The professionals at Ground Zero—I interviewed dozens in my work as a
producer for CBS—were in no way phony toughs. But Karnes does seem a bit "crazy brave."
You'd have to be slightly abnormal—abnormally selfless, abnormally patriotic—to do what he did.
And some of the same qualities that led Karnes to make himself a hero when it counted may
make him less perfect as the image of a hero today.

Officer Strauss tells a story that gets at this. When he was out on the pile a year ago, trying to pull
Officer Jimeno free, Strauss shouted orders to his volunteer helpers—"Medic, I need air," or
"Marine, get me some water." At one point, in the middle of this exhausting work, Strauss, asked if
he could call them by their names to facilitate the process. The medic said he was "Chuck."

Karnes said: "You can call me 'staff sergeant.' "

"That's three syllables!" said Strauss, who needed every bit of energy and every second of time.
"Isn't there something shorter?"

Karnes replied: "You can call me 'staff sergeant.' "

PMoreno349 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-05-2002
Posts: 665
Wow. Is this true? thanks for bringing it to our attention.
barryneedleman Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 08-23-2000
Posts: 1,689
Rick, this was very uplifting for me today. Thanks much for the post.

Barry
SteveS Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
Inspiring and uplifting ... this story truly epitomizes the American spirit.

thanks, Rick
banshee Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-12-2002
Posts: 10
Thanks Rickamaven I just saw the post. The Marine Corps claims honor and duty are the Marine way. At least this time it appears they were right.
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