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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 2:48 AM EST
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rayder1 Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 3:39 PM EST
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You know, I'm no fan of George W Bush, but that sort of "suspension ... from flying status" is not any sort of a big deal. Especially for an overlooked flight physical. Pretty common ding.

jjohnson28 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 4:19 PM EST
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Thats pretty much what I was thinking Rayder1.

HUGE YAWN !!!
E-Chick Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 5:02 PM EST
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Rick's been looting files again, eh?

Man, don't you have enough to do...then you go breaking into the NGB's offices and ripping off the Major General's papers?

JK! Rick, you ARE my hero...you are the wind beneath my wings!

If it wasn't for you, there would BE no politics on this board, hahaha!
E-Chick Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 5:03 PM EST
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Rick's been looting files again, eh?

Man, don't you have enough to do...then you go breaking into the NGB's offices and ripping off the Major General's papers?

JK! Rick, you ARE my hero...you are the wind beneath my wings!

If it wasn't for you, there would BE no politics on this board, hahaha!
E-Chick Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 5:04 PM EST
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Sorry for the board-fart...don't know how that happened!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 11:32 PM EST
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no it's not common to fail to follow orders and show up where you are required to. perhaps avoiding a drug test. i can't believe anyone with an iq above moron could be so influenced by this dodo to the point that suspension from flying status is a yawn.

perhaps i'm right.

now go ahead and say nasty things about me like fat, short and stupid. boy that's telling me and proving i know nothing about politics
rookie139 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 11:39 PM EST
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Wow Rick...This time you're really grabbing at straws bro!..LOL
Dishman Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Sep 30 2002, 11:43 PM EST
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Damn, rookie, I thought I was the only one this side of the country still up, lol.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Oct 1 2002, 2:38 AM EST
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So it's ok for you to get 6 article 15's? That's about what GW got right here. Your fabrication about drug use during this time is bordering insanity.

Only difference is he's the President of the United States. Seems he learned from his mistakes and won't be pushed down. Take a que from him and you COULD be a better person.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Oct 1 2002, 5:33 AM EST
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cliffie3d Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Oct 1 2002, 6:02 AM EST
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I thought "board fart" was pretty funny.
jjohnson28 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Oct 1 2002, 7:14 AM EST
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Shut up Cliffie and get back to bangin your head against the wall. LOL
Charlie Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Oct 1 2002, 7:31 AM EST
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So what? Another of Ricks straws, stick to the hummingbirds and your real hero, Ralph Nader!

Charlie
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Oct 1 2002, 5:54 PM EST
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Charlie

you have correctly pointed out i like nadar, not gore or clinton
justforfun Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Oct 2 2002, 8:29 PM EST
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I may be dense, but I just don't get it Rick. What's your point? You had to dig pretty deep to come up with this bit of meaningless tripe.
justforfun Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Oct 2 2002, 8:34 PM EST
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Rick: I may have to move out of the State. You keep confirming (to anyone beyond our boundaries) that California is truly one of the most liberal places in the country, full of fruits and nuts. How about Feinstein being embarrassed to wear an American flag pin in Europe? Guess that's okay, huh?
justforfun Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Oct 2 2002, 8:37 PM EST
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Echick: 'Board farts' hits the nail right on the head, especially given this fowl smelling sh**
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Oct 2 2002, 10:55 PM EST
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justforfun

last i read i was suppossed to get the hell out. something about not wanting anyone having a viewpoint hanging around. i thought freedom to express oneself in the usa, was one of the reasons bush wants to kill sadam. he won't let his people talk.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Oct 2 2002, 10:57 PM EST
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justforfun

nothing personal, but you might be dense. you mentioned it so i thought i would agree with your opinion of yourself.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Oct 3 2002, 2:07 AM EST
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I liked it better when you didn't type words in your response. Those posts seemed to elevate your IQ to your shoe size.

Bitter old man syndrome. I'm glad that I'll NEVER get it!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Oct 3 2002, 3:33 AM EST
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we mock the things we are to be. anon.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Oct 3 2002, 3:56 AM EST
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If that crap is true then you're going to be GW!

Think!
Charlie Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Oct 3 2002, 5:58 AM EST
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MadVibe, that is the problem, HE THINKS TOO MUCH!

Charie
donutboy2000 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Oct 4 2002, 9:39 AM EST
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Bored farts?
E-Chick Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Oct 4 2002, 9:43 AM EST
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I just can't believe that noone has jumped on the words 'meaningless tripe'...oh yeah, it vacation time...
Charlie Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Oct 4 2002, 9:46 AM EST
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This needs to go the way of cigargirl or whatever that mess was?

Charlie
jjohnson28 Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Oct 4 2002, 12:09 PM EST
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Oh No! Charlie what did you say that for? BRB
rayder1 Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Oct 5 2002, 1:45 PM EST
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I asked a buddy at the Air National Guard station here. He said, you might get two or three of those "suspensions" in a 5 year flight career. It is the aviation equvilant to a parking ticket. Like I said, I am no G.B. fan, but it isn't a valid argument about one's character.

It usually happens to a pilot when he is away from his home base and the paperwork doesn't reach his current station regarding his or her flight physical.

Geez Rick, have you ever forgotten to pay your car registration, pay a bill late, pay an insufficient funds fee on a check, roll through a stop sign, get a speeding ticket or a parking ticket?

'bout the same
cigarsmoke Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Oct 6 2002, 6:45 PM EST
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Rick you seem like a really nice guy but you have some unhealthy issues that you need to resolve. Oh and by the way I hear ralphy probly likes you back a whole bunch.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Oct 6 2002, 7:53 PM EST
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rayder1

yes, i have forgotten to renew a registration, but
1. this is just one of many things the gifted son has done.
2. i don't have the ability or inclination to send a bunch of kids to war on a BS preemptive strike.
3. i have never seen such devotion to anyone as is displayed here towards bush.
4. and that in spite of all the evidence about his past and current thinking problems, anything and everything he does or has done, is denied by his sheep.

i don't have issues except against the blind who can't see.

i know it is all clinton and gore's fault the the economy is in the dumper, a million or more jobs have been lost, almost 6% unemployment, the market has crashed, but because of past policies by those two scoundrels, sadam has reached a place where he needs to be assassinated and along with him many, civilians who are going to work or eating lunch or shopping and have neither say or interest in sadam. collateral damage. but what the hell "he tried to kill my dad."
Charlie Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2002, 4:39 AM EST
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So Rick, how are the hummingbirds?

Charlie
tailgater Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Oct 8 2002, 3:44 PM EST
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A "BS preemptive strike" ....?....!
Are you ****ting me? Do you honestly think we should wait for him to attack, directly or through his known funding of terrorists, before we remove him from power? Do you?
How good will you feel if his mastery of creative weapons lands on your back porch and kills your precious hummers? Or Worse?
Nadars seatbelts won't save us from his chemical/biological/nuclear weapons. Why can't you understand that?
If your neighbor is a known child molestor, do you allow your kids or grandkids to play outdoors unattended? Afterall, he hasn't attacked them. YET.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Oct 8 2002, 6:52 PM EST
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tailgater

the child molester is an excellent point. so far none of my neighbors are molesters.

let me ask you this, since we are being civil to each other, other than the suspicion of his capabilities, and his past use of the chemicals we gave him during reagan and bush sr's presedencies against his own people, sort of like kent state and the national guard during the nixon era, what has he done to raise hell since kuwait. i understand throw the first punch in a bar fight, but we are talking about killing a lot of youngsters.

also, why did we not attack saudi arabia, when we found out all of the hijacker, murderers with the exception of 2 were from saudai arabia.

just trying to get your ideas.

tailgater Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Oct 9 2002, 11:40 AM EST
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The individuals involved with the 9-11 tragedy are not "From" any particular political nation. Their ethnicity had nothing to do with their actions.
We target those who organize to use force against us. And those that harbor them.
Saddam has been shown to fund these types of groups, and based on his persistence to ignore UN resolutions for over 10 years I have no reason to believe he won't continue to support such actions.
To misjudge him, and to trust him now would be a grave mistake. The benefits of removing him far outweigh the small percentage chance you suggest we take by trusting him at this point.
I'm not "FOR" any war. I'm just not blind to the reality of the situation.
SteveS Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Oct 9 2002, 11:58 AM EST
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It was once said that one could not underestimate the intelligence of the American public ...

The person who said it was speaking about TV programming, but he could just as easily and correctly been speaking of the public grasp of current events and foreign policy ...

Anyone unable to see the clear and present danger posed by Iraq and the connection between Iraq and world terrorism is simply either blind or choosing not to look.

To paraphrase the guy in that old transmission commercial on tv, we can deal with Sadaam now, or we can deal with him later ... but NOT dealing with him isn't an option ... for too many years, we've chosen the latter course, thinking he'd "mean it this time" or that we could deal with him "later" ... in doing so we have allowed him and the very real threat he poses to become larger and more dangerous ...

For those of you who are blind, nothing could possibly be said that has not already been said to paint a word picture of the problem ... for those of you who are choosing to not look, just what the hell will it take?? Are you an ostrich or a man? Does Sadaam have to develop and use a nuclear weapon for you to face reality? Will he have to spread gas or germ warfare in the cities of America before you open your tightly shut eyes ??

I'm a bit of a history buff and am also old enough that I've seen a fair amount of history while it was current events ... I can tell you that truth and right are seldom more obvious or clear than they are in this case ...

No one in this country WANTS war ... no one WANTS to send troops in any number, large or small to deal with the problem by force ... but we are very rapidly being forced to make that choice or simply bend over and let him stick it up our ***

I refuse to bend over for him and I am appalled at the number of people in this country who apparently are ...
E-Chick Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Oct 9 2002, 3:51 PM EST
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Well said, Steve...
PMoreno349 Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 7:00 AM EST
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Steve: do you have a son or daughter in the military?
Charlie Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 7:16 AM EST
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It is too damn bad that we cannot get a sniper in close enough to rub the **** (Saddam) out! That would solve a lot of problems and free the Iraqui people from this horrible, murdering, lying dictator!

Charlie
SteveS Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 7:42 AM EST
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PMoreno .... currently, I do not ... one of my boys was in the Navy but recently got out ... he was in combat search and rescue and the carrier his airwing was part of was in the Persian Gulf for a past dance with Sadaam ... if things get heated up over there, he could go back in (and, he'd go back happily, I might add) ... and my youngest is now talking of joining the service, but has not yet done so ...

You didn't say or even necessarily imply that I would take a hawkish position using someone else or their child to get the job done ... but if that's a thought in your mind, it's just not so, I assure you.

Don't misunderstand ... I would be every bit as concerned as any other parent would be, perhaps maybe even more so because I am more aware of some of the stuff that actually goes on than some parents are ...

when my boy was in Kuwait and flying over Iraq, it was not an easy thing to watch the news ... when the carrier he was on sailed up and down the Straits of Formosa during one of those little demonstrations the mainland Chinese like to put on during elections to intimidate the folks in Taiwan, MrsS saw the news on CNN and was in hysterics when she called to tell me the Chinese were shelling the US fleet ...

But ... other parents in other times were equally concerned about their sons and daughters and today, we reap the blessings of what those parents and their sons and daughters did in earlier times to assure our way of life ... I feel strongly that we can do no less
PMoreno349 Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 12:08 PM EST
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Steve: I thought that you did and I find it interesting to hear what you have to say on the subject. I have young children, and when I think about this problem, all I can think about is that, if it is my kid, then the only way I want to risk his life is as a last resort.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 1:16 PM EST
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That's a pretty selfish way to conduct oneself. Somebody's son or daughter was on the frontline in WWI,WWII,Korean and Vietnam conflicts,Panama,Kuwait,Somolia,Afghanistan,No Fly Zones but I guess it's different for just YOUR kids! Your's are special in what way? If your son or daughter has chosen to serve or has been called to then pray for them. Know that they've been trained to deal with the situation and hope that they come home to you. They do this so no foreign army steps on our soil. Acting like a turtle or ostrich and hiding your head doesn't make the problem go away! You have to stand for what is right.

Now isn't the time for cowards. Now is the time to remember that we live in America, and everyone should enjoy the freedoms that we do. We're willing to shed our blood to get that point across. There's a cost associated with freedom.
SteveS Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 1:17 PM EST
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Clinton was President during most of my son's tour of duty ... when his ship was sent to the Gulf, I sent an e-mail to the President telling him that he had our support for what was necessary, but that I would appreciate greatly, his using the same frame of reference to determine what was necessary that he'd use if his daughter were part of the military forces on the scene ...

I support GWB with far more enthusiasm that I did Clinton on an idelogical basis, but would send the same note were my boy part of the forces involved.

I can tell you that it's a pretty powerful thing to know your child is on the line that way ... he called me once in the middle of the night "just to chat" but couldn't tell me much because a lot of their circumstances were "classified information" ... it didn't take me long to figure out something was up and I hinted as much to him ... all he said was "dad, you're a smart guy, but I can't confirm that" ... I later learned that the next morning, they flew a sortie over Iraq ... I never did tell his mom all the detail of that call until after he was out of the service ...

I cannot see the news of action there without thinking that he was there and imagining how I'd feel if he'd have been in the place of any of those who're killed there ... and even writing this post brings up a flood of emotion ...

A friend of a friend was one of those guys who helped to bring down that plane in PA last year ... his widow is a woman very little older than my oldest son ... she and her husband's parents have a loss as great as the parents of Johnny Spann or any of those special services or marines that've been killed over there ...
We just can't wait for them to take horrific action against us that could kill multiple times what 9/11 cost us last year ...

All we can do is to know that modern technology makes them safer than they'd have been at the time of the Revolution, Civil War, WWI, or II ... or any other war since then ... this is not a land action in Vietnam ... a lot was learned there by our military and we won't be repeating those mistakes ...

Bottom line is that I am sure Sadaam will elect to do business the hard way and we'll oblige him ... we can only hope it can be accomplished swiftly with minimal losses ...
PMoreno349 Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 4:43 PM EST
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Steve, thanks for sharing.

Dr. Vibe, chill out. What I was trying to say is that, since I have kids, I understand why many want to be absolutely sure that we are making the correct decision. Forgive me if I don't share your confidence of the Bush admin., but that is my right.

However, regardless of who is promoting war, these questions need to be asked every time, and there is an obligation to answer them. It is not a question of cowardice, it is a matter of respect for the lives which will be lost.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 3:33 PM EST
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drmad man

you are a complete idiot and ask the stupidest questions. why my kids, are they something special. damn right they are as well as everyone else's kid ought to be.

if you want to send your kids to die, your are descpicable.

you are the most gung-ho madman i have seen on this board. you have not clue one what the hell is going on in ther world because you have such a tight ass view of the world and are able to accept anything this moron of a president says.

i think i saw some polite responses to you saying no offense but... well this is offensive and you deserve it.

and for the rest of you right wingers, you are as much in your right to have your political viewpoint as i am and up until now i have never said anything that would offend some one personally, it's stooping too low.

if you are all ready to accept the ravings of this mad man in office, the loss of personal freedoms, and dumb ass democrats, lieberman, daschle, gephardt, you can all go piss up a rope.

the next one that says i have issues, is a ding.
that next right or left wing zealot that says that i have mental problems, doesn't no squatt about problems, mental, or otherwise.

anyone that disagrees with me, fine. but stoop to psycho-babble, forget about it.

i smoke my cigars, i email with some buddy's who don't agree with anything i think about politics, but we maintain a civility and maybe even a mutual respect for the other's views.

you madman are a narrow minded stupid individual and like cigsmoke of months ago needs not be encouraged to rant.

i can't wait to see your response when i have raised your hackels like this.

for the normal people:

toby and i are off to the orleans to place our bets at the sports book for the weekends nfl games.

we are going to the stage deli to get new your lox, bagels and cream cheese and a few thick slices of muenster cheese. i may even pick up some cod.

diner at the el cortez, prime rib rare for toby and baby back ribs for me, was so good, we have half of the meal (no one can eat an entire meal in vegas) in the ice box for a snack.

last night we played a nickle dueces machine starting at 1:30. i put $25.00 in and we played until 7:30 when toby finally hit a royal with dueces. we cashed in the $8.40 that was left and thought $17.00 of cigar smoking, and shooting the breeze with each other for 6 hours was great.

before we gambled we went to freemont street and sat down at a cuppaccino bar so we could look at the show and i could light a monte #5 and disappear in to the nervana that only a great cigar can deliver you. we went to see the red dragon and when we came out we went back to the same place and this time i smoked a hemmingway work of art.

we both slept from 10:00 until about 1:00pm and we are off and running.

nice chating with you all again and nice talking to you cahlie on the phone and you didn't even recognize my accent.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 4:18 PM EST
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3 words ******,er I mean Rick.

BITTER

OLD

LIBERAL

Don't strain your brain you might have a thought or two.
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