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E-Chick Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 8:50 AM EST
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Someone mentioned Italian cigars to me recently...any comments?
huttman78 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 9:01 AM EST
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All I know about Italian cigars is they are generally the small dried out kind that Clint Eastwood smoked in the "Man w/ no name" Triology. Such brands include DiNobli and may have a licorice or annesette flavor. i don't know of any regular hand-made long filler cigars being made there.
GetYourOwn Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 9:49 AM EST
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I those those Clint marathons. I watch em anytime I find out their on.

Huttman, Wasn't the director Italian? I have heard Italy associated with those movies. That would be why he smoked those cigars.
bassithound Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 9:58 AM EST
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In Slimboli fashion:

Between 1960 and 1975, European film production companies made nearly 600 Westerns. Critics either blasted or ignored these films, and because most of them were financed by Italian companies, they called them Spaghetti Westerns. Fans of the genre embraced the term which is now lovingly used to label any Western made and financed by Continental filmmakers.

GetYourOwn Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 10:06 AM EST
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Thanks, Produced by Italians. And they supplied the smokes. LOL
SteveS Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 10:07 AM EST
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Italian film-maker Sergio Leone in particular, made a series of immensely popular westerns starring Clint Eastwood as "the man with no name", most noteably, these movies included "A Fistful of Dollars", "For a Few Dollars More" and "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" ... although shot primarily in Spain, these were the pics originally dubbed the spaghetti westerns, a term that later became more inclusive of other European-made western movies ...

SteveS Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 10:10 AM EST
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You might recall that when accepting his award at the Academy Awards this past year, Clint Eastwood mentioned "Sergio" among those he thanked for having helped him become what he is ... that'd be Sergio Leone of spaghetti western fame.
wouldestous Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 11:34 AM EST
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chick- parodi and denobili are two common versions of these cigars. havent had one lately but as i recall they are pretty rough tasting but not *terribly* bad. esp if you compare them to the white owls that they are usually on the shelf with. at least they are all-tobacco.
read somewhere that the real long ones are meant to be cut in half and shared with a friend, but that may be apocryphal.
they are cheap, get a 5-pack at the drugstore and give one a whirl.
Charlie Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 1:27 PM EST
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Sergio Leone directed one of the great gangster flicks of all time, "Once Upon a Time in America" (Long version as the short version sucked) starring Robert DiNero, James Woods, and several other well know mobster actors! The long version is almost 4 hours in length and in order to run this in theaters in America they came out with the 2 hour version, and it lost all of the story line and in general sucked! Recommend watching the long version if you get a chance!

Charlie
Mr.Mean Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 3:05 PM EST
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Ditto
ducati996 Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 3:41 PM EST
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I don't know about Italian cigars, but I love their motorcycles. I can't wait to get back on my Ducati 996!! Go Troy Bayliss!
leon123 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 3:41 PM EST
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I have never met anyone else who watched and loved Once Upon a time in America. It was one of the best gangster films ever. I recently saw it again on re-run and now am on a quest to find the 4 hour dvd.

Its one of the few movies that I actually like James Woods in. I am always surprised when people rave about Deniro and never metion this show.

I think danny Aiello (sp?) was never given enough credit for his role as police man. In this one either.

Smoking a Maxim.............Leon

jreddoch Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 5:10 PM EST
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Toscanos are not bad, I smoked 'em when I was stationed in Italy in the Navy.
Danny Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 5:22 PM EST
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for a while in the 70's, the cops in LA were driving Moto Guzzis
tailgater Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 5:34 PM EST
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E, anytime you want to smoke an Italian, just call...
tailgater Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 5:35 PM EST
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Actually, the Perodis are the ultimate "chewing" cigar. Most folks I know that regularly buy these rarely light them. And for good reason.
aberdeen Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 8:09 PM EST
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Leon, try www.northamericandvd.com
they offer this dvd and say it is the Exclusive edition for $19. But doesn't give the time length. I get nearly all my dvds from this company, they are usually 20% cheaper than Amazon and free shipping with 10 or more CD's (they are located in Canada, and cheap because of the currency business)
aberdeen Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 8:12 PM EST
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also I don't know if the link below will work, but if you type in "Once Upon A Time In America dvd" on the search engine on ebay you will find listings for the 4 hour version.


http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&from=R7&ebaytag1=ebayreg&query=Once+Upon+a+time+in+America+dvd&query2=Once+Upon+a+time+in+America+dvd&search_option=1&exclude=&category0=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ebaytag1code=0&st=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort
aberdeen Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2002, 8:13 PM EST
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sorry to keep adding, but it looks like you can get it easily for $10 on ebay.
bud451 Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 4:22 AM EST
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Leon...

dvdpricesearch.com
bud451 Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 5:53 AM EST
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Also take note that is only available in P&S. I'm waiting for the widescreen, IMHO P&S destroys the movie.
SteveS Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 6:02 AM EST
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Bud ... absolutely bang-on opinion of P&S ... it's absolutely incredible what gets done to films in order to "re-format it to fit your (tv) screen" ..

Standard 'scope aspect ratio is 1.85 to 1 ... tv screen is approx 1.33 to 1 ... meaning approximately 28% of the original picture's width has been cut off.

There's an awful lot going on in that lost 28% you don't get to see in a re-formatted film ...
bud451 Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2002, 6:49 AM EST
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I hear ya Steve. The main reason I was a very early buyer into DVD. I finally got to watch complete movies at home.
bud451 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Jun 4 2003, 8:25 AM EST
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Hey Steve, the DVD goes on sale Tuesday 6/10. Full uncut version in 16:9.

Thought you might want to know.
qball Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jun 5 2003, 11:25 AM EST
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Hi E, the Savanelli company of Milan makes a relatively decent cigar. Like many other countries the smokes don't come from there, but are made in Esteli Nicaragua.

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