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jpotts Offline
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SmokingGuns wrote:
Let me ask all of you a simple question: what country in its right mind would create a system that would force it to lend itself money and have to repay the money WITH INTEREST? What country would charge itself interest?


One that is able to create new wealth via a burgeoning private sector.

I know that's a foreign concept these days, but it used to be the case.
SmokingGuns Offline
#52 Posted:
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One that is able to create new wealth via a burgeoning private sector

the question is new wealth for who?? may be for the private banks who are lending the money?Herfing
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#53 Posted:
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Obtuse observation: Is your avatar Charlie Sheen? Or maybe your ARE Charlie Sheen....that would explain quite a bit here.
SmokingGuns Offline
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Obtuse observation: Is your avatar Charlie Sheen? Or maybe your ARE Charlie Sheen....that would explain quite a bit here.

NO sir and i didn't know who that was until i googled his name,sorry to disappoint you.
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#55 Posted:
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SmokingGuns wrote:
NO sir and i didn't know who that was until i googled his name,sorry to disappoint you.

No disappointment here...and you take yourself WAY to seriously.Gonz
DadZilla3 Offline
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SmokingGuns wrote:
Let me ask all of you a simple question: what country in its right mind would create a system that would force it to lend itself money and have to repay the money WITH INTEREST? What country would charge itself interest? What nation would put itself out of business by making it bankrupt because of interest?


Oh...I'd say any country that has a government under the control of an oligarchy, a ruling elite whose self-interest is paramount; above the law, insulated and protected by their positions of power and influence.


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#57 Posted:
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One that is able to create new wealth via a burgeoning private sector.


The Fed basically loans money to the U.S. treasury with interest, which the Treasury could easily create for itself without interest. There is absolutely no need for the Fed. This is why both Lincoln and Kennedy tried to mint "US Treasury Notes" and shut down the central banks of their eras. Funny what happened to them immediately after they tried to do this........
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#58 Posted:
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MCAddict wrote:
Obtuse observation: Is your avatar Charlie Sheen? Or maybe your ARE Charlie Sheen....that would explain quite a bit here.


That my friends is Ernesto "Che" Guevara. The Cuban butcher. The muscle behind Castro's sweep to power. The REAL revolutionary element.
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If you didn't 'know' better, you might begin to suspect that anyone who messes with the FED ends up badly.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DadZilla3 wrote:
If you didn't 'know' better, you might begin to suspect that anyone who messes with the FED ends up badly.



Why I do believe someone is doing their research!
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If you didn't 'know' better, you might begin to suspect that anyone who messes with the FED ends up badly.



Nine American Presidents have been the targets of assassination:- Andrew Jackson in 1835 (opposed a private national bank), Abraham Lincoln in 1865 (opposed a private national bank), James Garfield in 1881 (opposed a private national bank), William McKinley in 1901, Harry S. Truman in 1950, John F. Kennedy in 1963 (opposed a private national bank), Richard Nixon in 1974, Gerald Ford twice in 1975, and Ronald Reagan in 1981 (opposed a private national bank): ALL they have in common is that they opposed the Feds,9 American presidents not one not two,and the list of congressmen, senators and others is far from being short.
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Yo sabia que Smoking Guns era un Cubiche!! No reconoci el photo.
SmokingGuns Offline
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Yo sabia que Smoking Guns era un Cubiche!! No reconoci el photo.

Gigolo i can assure you I'm not Cuban,so relax buddy
gringococolo Offline
#64 Posted:
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SmokingGuns wrote:
Gigolo i can assure you I'm not Cuban,so relax buddy



I can assure I am a gringo!!! No sweat brother, i was just joking anyway. I did figure you for a spanish speaker (or other language) based on some of your posts, but I could be wrong. Doesn't matter anyway. You are hanging in here just fine. Got to go back to work.Cool
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I did figure you for a Spanish speaker (or other language) based on some of your posts,

I speak 3 languages gringo.Dancing but I'm not Spanish. Whistle
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///////Gray Shadow:
The Federal Reserve Website is disingenuous when explaining its own structure. For instance, Candidates for the Board of Governors are put on a "short list" by the Fed's Board of Directors. 6 out of 9 of these directors are selected by the Fed itself. This list is then given to the Senate and the President, and THEN he chooses members of the board, so in reality, it is the Fed who chooses who is on the Board of Governors. The Board of Governors is almost always made up of Bank CEO's, or Corporate CEO's, which leaves it wide open to corruption, and the Board provides little or no REAL oversite to the Fed, which was obvious in the Fed bailout of Bear-Stearns with public finances.

In Lewis v. United States, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit stated that "the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities… but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." I think that this is quite clear that the Fed is PRIVATE.
jpotts Offline
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SmokingGuns wrote:
the question is new wealth for who?? may be for the private banks who are lending the money?Herfing


First, since the implementation of the FDIC, there is no such thing as a "private bank" these days. They are pseudo-private.

Second, new wealth for who? If you draw a paycheck, and own stuff, that is considered wealth. All wealth is property.

If you own a home, and have a net worth over $0, you have wealth.

Furthermore, private banks, by and large, do not "lend" money to the US government. The government prints bonds that it "sells" both domestically and internationally. If your own a federal savings bond, you are owed money by the government. And, according to the Founding Fathers, who drew their philosophy from people like John Locke, the individual has a right to their property. Governments must draw from that private wealth for the operation. They do not generate that wealth. This is on stark contrast to other countries, like the Soviet Union, where the state is the single source for all wealth.

So, I hope that clarifies things for you.
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SmokingGuns wrote:
Let me ask all of you a simple question: what country in its right mind would create a system that would force it to lend itself money and have to repay the money WITH INTEREST? What country would charge itself interest? What nation would put itself out of business by making it bankrupt because of interest?


This is always the problem: these questions are based on assumptions that are not given facts.
It seem clear that the government proper (we the people voting, etc.) was not really driving the creation of the Federal Reserve. More like it was lobbied, bought off, and pushed through in the quiet of the night. This is how real power and money works. And it works best if they keep the illusion of democracy alive.

The questions are more important than the answers.

How can we make the Federal Reserve a Government institution that serves the people? This would be a better question.
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#61

The following is a list of people connected with Bill Clinton who have died suddenly or under unusual Circumstances:

Coincidence?

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement for refusing to testify as a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater. Kathy Ferguson -Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere.

Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible Corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.


Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation.

Controversial case here-initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July, 1988

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April, 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

Who's Next????
Brewha Offline
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^ And while we go completely off topic, does anyone know what brand of cigars Clinton smoked? [/h]
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Brewha wrote:
^ And while we go completely off topic, does anyone know what brand of cigars Clinton smoked? [/h]



It doesn't matter.
Brewha Offline
#72 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
It doesn't matter.


What about Monaca?
donutboy2000 Offline
#73 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
What about Monaca?



Monica?
SmokingGuns Offline
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If you own a home, and have a net worth over $0, you have wealth.

My friend no one owns a home in the us, we are renting from the government, if you don't pay your property taxes you can get evicted and your house will be seized,which actually defies the meaning of being an owner.If you must pay someone money on a regular basis to avoid being evicted from your home, are you truly a homeowner? What if that same organization that you pay money to under threat of eviction also controls your use of the property?
What if they forbid you to run a store from your home, or allow a second family to move in, and enforce such with zoning laws? What if they also prevent you from making any significant modifications to the property without their written permission, in the form of PERmit requirements? Is the home really yours?
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SmokingGuns wrote:
My friend no one owns a home in the us, we are renting from the government, if you don't pay your property taxes you can get evicted and your house will be seized,which actually defies the meaning of being an owner.If you must pay someone money on a regular basis to avoid being evicted from your home, are you truly a homeowner? What if that same organization that you pay money to under threat of eviction also controls your use of the property?
What if they forbid you to run a store from your home, or allow a second family to move in, and enforce such with zoning laws? What if they also prevent you from making any significant modifications to the property without their written permission, in the form of PERmit requirements? Is the home really yours?



Move to Montana. I think Ted Kaczynski had the same ideas.




But seriously. Do you have a fundamental right to electricity? If you don't want to pay for govt services. Potable water etc... Move to the mountains, live off the land, and quit crying about the government and the boogey man.
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I submit to the will of Landrew! Lawgivers! Lawgivers!
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gringococolo wrote:
Move to Montana.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJN_uWaVRfo&feature=fvw

Yet another gratuitous Zappa reference...I'm on a roll today!
SmokingGuns Offline
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Ben Bernanke Money Printing Ends Up as Wall Street Bonuses
WSJ is reporting that bonuses on Wall Street this year are expected to be around $144 billion. How big is that relative to the overall economy?

ZeroHedge cranked out the numbers and it is 8% of the total money supply (as measured by M1). Got that? Investment bankers will control 8% of the entire money supply once bonuses are paid.

Now, there is nothing wrong with bankers earning good change as a result of dealmaking, but a good portion of the bonuses are the result of money being shoveled to bankers by Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke. Where's Bernanke getting the money to shovel to Wall Street? Why he is just printing it, that's what he does.

Over the last three months, M1 money supply has increased by 9.1% on an annualized basis. Got that? Investment bankers will get bonuses of 8% of the money supply, Bernanke is increasing the money supply at just over that amount. There is no better evidence that it is the crony part of Wall Street that is benefiting from Federal Reserve activities, and no one else.

Talk about a distorted manipulated economy, it doesn't get much uglier than this.
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But seriously. Do you have a fundamental right to electricity? If you don't want to pay for govt services

It is completely different, Do they seize your house kick you out and put it on auction if don't pay your electric bill? you get a service you pay for it very simple.just tell me what is this great service that the government is giving you in your property so that they charge you all that money every year and threaten you with seizure and eviction if you don't pay?
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SmokingGuns wrote:
It is completely different, Do they seize your house kick you out and put it on auction if don't pay your electric bill? you get a service you pay for it very simple.just tell me what is this great service that the government is giving you in your property so that they charge you all that money every year and threaten you with seizure and eviction if you don't pay?




Oh you mean all those people who are living for free in houses owned by banks. Are thier houses are being seized by the government? No they are being forclosed on and the banks are evicting them. People are being told to walk away because their houses are now worth half of what their mortgage balance is. That was private banks making loans to people that have no business owning houses, and inflating markets. Are you talking about emminent domain?

What exactly in your ramblings about the illuminati, the federal reserve, new world order, etc.., has actually had a negative effect on you personnaly? Has your property been seized? Have you been impoverished? Has the government forced you to take loans at an ureasonable rate? Have you not profited and gained wealth?

If nobody has told you yet, the Divinci Code is fiction. Plus all this stuff is so "early 90's".

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Oh you mean all those people who are living for free in houses owned by banks. Are thier houses are being seized by the government? No they are being forclosed on and the banks are evicting them. People are being told to walk away because their houses are now worth half of what their mortgage balance is. That was private banks making loans to people that have no business owning houses, and inflating markets. Are you talking about emminent domain?

What exactly in your ramblings about the illuminati, the federal reserve, new world order, etc.., has actually had a negative effect on you personnaly? Has your property been seized? Have you been impoverished? Has the government forced you to take loans at an ureasonable rate? Have you not profited and gained wealth?

If nobody has told you yet, the Divinci Code is fiction. Plus all this stuff is so "early 90's".


Sorry man but you are all over the place, I'm not talking about no banks no loans, nothing like that, if i own a house i mean i own it fully and rightfully why am i paying a lease (you can call it property tax i look at it as a lease) to the government every year,and if i don't i get evicted from my own property ?
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SmokingGuns wrote:
Sorry man but you are all over the place, I'm not talking about no banks no loans, nothing like that, if i own a house i mean i own it fully and rightfully why am i paying a lease (you can call it property tax i look at it as a lease) to the government every year,and if i don't i get evicted from my own property ?



Well, I guess you shouldn't pay for roads, sewer infastructure, water infastructure, street lights, electrical, telephone, fire, police to patrol your neighbor hood. That is your local and state govt.

What property taxes do you pay to the federal govenrment, and when has the federal government seized personal property (at a large scale), for not paying local property taxes.

Again, move to a cabin in the woods. Pay nothing - get nothing.


Wait, look there's a tree.... run and go bark up it!!
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Well, I guess you shouldn't pay for roads, sewer infastructure, water infastructure, street lights, electrical, telephone, fire, police to patrol your neighbor hood. That is your local and state govt.

What property taxes do you pay to the federal govenrment, and when has the federal government seized personal property (at a large scale), for not paying local property taxes.

Again, move to a cabin in the woods. Pay nothing - get nothing.


Wait, look there's a tree.... run and go bark up it!!


the same old BS, well sir you pay income tax, sales taxes, gas taxes , DMV fees , the taxes and fees list is endless i think they are enough to pay for all those services,but the fact that you,me and other bust your ass working all our life to own a house then you have to pay thousands for property taxes every year is unfair.
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Live in a tent in the woods. Quit being a baby.
jpotts Offline
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SmokingGuns wrote:
My friend no one owns a home in the us, we are renting from the government, if you don't pay your property taxes you can get evicted and your house will be seized,which actually defies the meaning of being an owner.If you must pay someone money on a regular basis to avoid being evicted from your home, are you truly a homeowner?


First, you'd better define "government," because property taxes tend to be state-based, and are not federal.

Secondly, you don't have to own a home to have net worth. Your fixation on homes as a measure of net worth is a bit faulty.

Second, if this is how you think, no wonder you're so confused. Acquiescing the principles this nation was founded upon to supposed reality is one of the reasons why you're complaining about the nature of things in the first place.
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SmokinGuns-Adroomi


Has the acid trip worn off yet?????If your trip was even 1/10th as adventurous as your post in this thread.............................I'd say you must of had a good time.


Happy Trails
Ron
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Banned again?
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
That my friends is Ernesto "Che" Guevara. The Cuban butcher. The muscle behind Castro's sweep to power. The REAL revolutionary element.



Che is a popular mass murderer. It is cool to have a pic of him tattooed on your body.
Unlike other less popular mass murderers like Hitler or Pol Pot.
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Che is a popular mass murderer. It is cool to have a pic of him tattooed on your body.
Unlike other less popular mass murderers like Hitler or Pol Pot.



Che smoked cigars and had sex appeal. Hitler smoked pole and Pol Pot smoked small children.

Now Charles Manson tattoos are uber cool.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA&feature=player_embedded
Another wise man, listen and reflect on what is happening now Herfing
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smokin guns

no country would do that, but what is a country, but a mass of
land inhabited by people hoping to be left alone and not
botheingr other people, unless the other people hav a different
god then they do.

i know this may be beneath you, but the answer to your question
is in your question.

have you ever read the creature from jekyll island?" or you can listen to the author of the book give a lecure on his subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zus8_xl8qUI

i know i am just an old man whose time has passed, but i can assure you, when the circus cam to town, i never missed it

have you ever seen steambath?

have you seen lenny bruce. http://www.rhapsody.com/lenny-bruce/the-lenny-bruce-originals-vol-1

did you ever see fred astaiare and eleanor powell dance.

have you ever heard the entire 1937 goodman concert at
carnegie hall..

have you watched toscanini lead an orchestra playing
beethoven's fifth,

have you ever heard stearn play Tchaikovsky's violin concerto

have you ever raiseds two sons and felt the pride knowing you had some small influence in what kind of people they are


the best to you on your journey.
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SmokingGuns wrote:
Let me ask all of you a simple question: what country in its right mind would create a system that would force it to lend itself money and have to repay the money WITH INTEREST? What country would charge itself interest? What nation would put itself out of business by making it bankrupt because of interest?


'Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.'

-Thomas Jefferson
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DadZilla3 92

then he went home, had a beer and raped one of his 14 year old slaves
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
DadZilla3 92

then he went home, had a beer and raped one of his 14 year old slaves


d'oh!
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
DadZilla3 92

then he went home, had a beer and raped one of his 14 year old slaves



WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
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