America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 13 years ago by DadZilla3. 61 replies replies.
2 Pages12>
Obama to spend $2bil on 10 trip to India
wheelrite Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
Just Barak and 3000 close friends.

$200 mil a day...


where's my cake ???


wheel,
DadZilla3 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
rfenst Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
DadZilla3 wrote:
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.



Some one has got to see where all the jobs have gone to...
donutboy2000 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
Yet another example of the Democrat Culture of Corruption !
DadZilla3 Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
I can't quite decide what's more repugnant...Obama blowing 2 billion dollars on a ten day holiday to India, or the American mainstream media for giving him a total free pass about it.
MCAddict Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-10-2007
Posts: 2,117
LEMON CURRY?
JadeRose Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 05-15-2008
Posts: 19,525
Hey screw you guys......he promised to bring me back some Lamb Madras and some Naan.
wheelrite Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
JadeRose wrote:
Hey screw you guys......he promised to bring me back some Lamb Madras and some Naan.



and a Dot your the Midget's forehead
wheelrite Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
^ FOR your midget's head...
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,601
Is he taking Oprah..?? Huh
uncleb Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 11-13-2002
Posts: 1,326
Just as an FYI

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/11/obamas-india-trip----not-as-expensive-as-you-may-have-heard/1?csp=hf
wheelrite Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119


Nov 04, 2010
Obama's India trip -- not as expensive as you may have heard
11:56 AMYahoo! BuzzShare
DiggNewsvineRedditE-mailSavePrintShare1772,191 Comments

37 Recommend India gets ready for President Obama's visit.
CAPTIONBy MANPREET ROMANA, AFP/Getty ImagesNo, President Obama's trip is not going to cost $200 million a day.

That figure -- first thrown out by a single Indian media outlet and now viral on conservative talk radio -- is wildly off the mark.

The problem is that the costs for these trips are impossible to determine, for many of the president's expenses would be incurred whether he was visiting India or Atlanta or simply hanging around the White House. Obama's India trip starts an Asian swing that includes South Korea, Indonesia and Japan.

The administration isn't inclined to detail costs, most of which deal with security.

"The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality," said White House spokesman Tommy Vietor. "Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it's safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated."

To be sure, these trips do cost millions of dollars per day.

Whenever a president travels, he or she takes a mini-White House with them, from bulletproof limousines to gaggles of aides. This can come in awfully handy when trouble happens, such as the terrorist attacks on 9/11 when George W. Bush was in Florida. Ronald Reagan was traveling in Asia when the Chernobyl nuclear plant in what was then the Soviet Union blew up in 1986.

Foreign trips are expensive but are a staple of presidential duties. India is a rising economy power. It is next to -- and has an intense rivalry with -- one of the world's most dangerous countries, Pakistan. It can be a counterweight to threats from China. Any president is going to deal with India.

Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim majority nation. South Korea is the site of a G-20 global economic summit. Japan is hosting the annual Asian economic summit, which Obama's predecessors also attended. There's no evidence that Obama's team is spending any more money than its predecessors, taking inflation into account.

Yes, these gigs will cost money. But $200 million a day? Not even close.

One other thing to keep in mind: The Secret Service is not going to let anything happen to a president overseas if they can help it. They're going to do -- and spend -- whatever it takes. That's just a fact of life.

One last thing: The media organizations accompanying Obama will pay their own expenses.


Um,,

This article says nothing...

This trip is in poor taste at best and a thumb in the eye of Tax payer..


wheel,

rfenst Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
wheelrite wrote:
This trip is in poor taste at best and a thumb in the eye of Tax payer.






OK, so we now all know that the $200 million/day figure is a load of crap. No big surprise.
But why is the trip in"in poor taste" and how is it "a thumb in the eye of Tax payer"?
Think
wheelrite Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
rfenst wrote:
OK, so we now all know that the $200 million/day figure is a load of crap. No big surprise.
But why is the trip in"in poor taste" and how is it "a thumb in the eye of Tax payer"?
Think



Robert,
nowhere in that article did it refute the cost .
There is no plausible reason for Obama and his posse to go globe trotting while our country is in economic turmoil.

It looks bad to those of us who pay taxes..
tailgater Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
"Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency"
-- BHO, January 21, 2009



"we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs..."
--White House spokesman Tommy Vietor.


Hey Tommy. We don't need details on how the security is handled. We just want to know the price.

Hey Barack. Shove it!


rfenst Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
Wink
wheelrite wrote:
Robert,
nowhere in that article did it refute the cost .
There is no plausible reason for Obama and his posse to go globe trotting while our country is in economic turmoil.

It looks bad to those of us who pay taxes..





Since we both know you can and did read the article, I just don't understand how you can say those things about your article?

1. The $2 billion figure appears to be bull-****.
2. Meeting with important allies and trading partners certainly cannot hurt our economic picture.
3. Attending large, important world economic sumits is a good thing for any President to do.

I know it looks bad to you because you despise Obama and his political agenda. But, I also know that if Obama declared that he didn't think his trip was important enough to go on, you would be even angrier and more vocal.


DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,601
Huh Is he taking his puppy-dog..??
HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,213
US Presidents go globtrotting all the time. It is part of the job.

(Maybe he will outsource the White House operations!)
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,601
Obama played for the Globetrotters..??Confused
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,634
He's going there with a tincup in his hand. He's going there to beg. Remember, with the balance of power controlled by his party he could've repealed NAFTA. That would've signaled that America won't offshore jobs. They didn't do a damn thing. It's not even on his radar.



Obama message in India: Jobs, jobs, jobs
Friday, November 05, 2010
By Laura Rozen, Politico
When President Barack Obama arrives in Mumbai Saturday on his first presidential trip to India, he'll begin a tightly choreographed three-day visit designed not only to deepen the alliance between the world's two largest democracies but to telegraph a message of U.S. jobs and economic opportunities from expanded U.S.-India trade ties to a struggling American audience back home.

Indeed, when the White House previewed Obama's upcoming India trip last week, "jobs" and "jobs back here" were mentioned 17 times by White House aides.

"Indian companies are the second-fastest-growing investors in the United States and they ??? now support about 57,000 jobs here in the U.S.," said Michael Froman, deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs. "So it's a great market for U.S. exports," as well as a "good source of investment for the United States. ... And that's the reason why the president will be there."

The "trip is basically economic in focus," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs echoed. "I think when people see the first day of this, they'll understand that ??? our relationship with this region of the world and with this country is not disconnected in any way from what's important to them in our ability to export our goods, to sell those products and to create and support jobs here in America."

To amplify that point, Obama will speak upon his arrival at a U.S.-India business conference at which several American CEOs plan to announce major deals with India, Washington South Asia experts familiar with the preparations said. Chief among those deals: a $5.4 billion Boeing sale of C-17 transport aircraft to the Indian government as well as an additional sale of commercial aircraft to an Indian domestic airliner. General Electric's CEO is also expected to announce a deal to sell power turbines to the Indian energy company Reliance.

"It will be one of the largest trade missions ever assembled," said a former senior U.S. official who works on Indian issues.

Obama is expected to almost exclusively accentuate the positive in the U.S.-India economic relationship, however, and is not expected to dwell on the touchy issue of the outsourcing of U.S. jobs to the region.

"What they [the Obama team] are really plugging is jobs and exports," said the former U.S. official. "There will be no emphasis [by the White House] at all on the outsourcing of American jobs."

In another sign of the strong economic focus of the trip, Obama will be accompanied in India by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Commerce Secretary Gary Locke, as well as by USAID Chief Rajiv Shah. (He will not be joined by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Defense Secretary Robert Gates.)

After Mumbai, Obama will go to Delhi, where he will give a rare address to the Indian Parliament before heading to Indonesia and the G-20 meeting in Seoul, South Korea.

"I don't have any doubt that President Obama is going to wow the Indian masses," former Bush-era U.S. Ambassador to India Robert Blackwill told journalists on a call organized by the Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday. "He is in Indian eyes an extraordinary example of the diversity and pluralism of American democracy, being the first African-American president. At the most basic level, the Indian people are going to find him extremely attractive and charismatic and so forth."

Blackwill predicted that Obama could wow Indian public and national security elite audiences by saying in his speech to the Parliament that the United States supports India's long-sought aspiration to become a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council in the context of a reformed Security Council. (Currently, the U.S. and China are the only two U.N. Security Council permanent members that have expressed opposition to India's membership, Blackwill said.)

On strategic matters, India remains extremely concerned about a possibly chaotic U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan beginning in July 2011, Blackwill said. India also thinks the U.S. is not putting enough pressure on India to counter cross-border terrorism such as the Mumbai terrorist attacks in November 2008. Obama will stay in Mumbai at the historic Taj Mahal hotel, one of the two Mumbai hotels that were besieged by terrorists, renting out the entire hotel for security reasons. That has led to criticism by some right-leaning commentators, who have said Obama's trip will cost taxpayers $20 million a day. The White House said Thursday that that number is wildly exaggerated, and former senior State Department official Wendy Sherman told NPR Thursday that the entire Obama Asia trip will cost around $50 million.

India is also looking for Obama to delist all Indian companies and entities save for two that the United States has made ineligible for U.S. technology transfers since India's 1998 nuclear weapons test.

"There won't be a single earth-shattering moment" on the trip, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Evan Feigenbaum told POLITICO. "But there are plenty of ideas on the table. I also think what the president says, for instance in Mumbai, will be important and send powerful messages about shared U.S.-Indian concerns about terrorism."

But Feigenbaum cautioned that it would be a mistake for the Obama administration to think about the growing U.S.-India alliance so "transactionally," as he put it -- the U.S. gives something in order to get something from India.

"A stronger India is good for U.S. interests, so the various things that are on the table for this visit -- from cooperation in Afghanistan to export control reform to defense cooperation via C-17 sales to coordination in third countries, such as in Africa -- reflects that underlying strength," he said.

post-gazette.com is a member of the Politico Network
First published on November 5, 2010 at 12:00 am


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10309/1100832-473.stm#ixzz14Q1MpxN8
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
one idiot mentions $200,000,000. she heard it somewhere. then another idiot repeats it. eventually all the idiots in the same reality world they invented, start quoting each other.

this is because they do not live in a real world. they live in a world like ozzie and harriet. they live in a world that never existed and they discuss their invisible friends with each other.

good luck.
dpnewell Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2009
Posts: 7,491
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
one idiot mentions $200,000,000. she heard it somewhere. then another idiot repeats it. eventually all the idiots in the same reality world they invented, start quoting each other.

this is because they do not live in a real world. they live in a world like ozzie and harriet. they live in a world that never existed and they discuss their invisible friends with each other.

good luck.



Except for the "ozzie and harriet" part, it sounds just like how most Liberals come up with stuff.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,683
OK. If the 200 mil/day is wrong, what about the 34 warships and 3000 people going with him and renting the WHOLE Taj Mahaal (RFenster I think this was the thumb Mr. Bill was discussing)?

Number are often touted and are incorrect. His FING people said the trip was for the POTUS to experience the "festival of lights". This guy doesn't act presidential. Bush 43 saying on Oprah he would not criticize a sitting POTUS after leaving office is.

Plus you haters are just racists. He has a class reunion at his Madrassa (sp?) in Indonesia to attend.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,634
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
one idiot mentions $200,000,000. she heard it somewhere. then another idiot repeats it. eventually all the idiots in the same reality world they invented, start quoting each other.

this is because they do not live in a real world. they live in a world like ozzie and harriet. they live in a world that never existed and they discuss their invisible friends with each other.

good luck.



Global Warming comes to mind.
rfenst Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
I had read it might be 47 aircraft carriers, battleships and submarines!

Then I heard on the evening news that the whole thing was just a bunch of bull****, which sounds far more reasonable to me. No vessels at all.

Don't you wonder why stupid anti-Obama rumors and allegations like this go viral? I am sure that none of it has anything at all to do with it all the haters.

Like it or not, he's our President. Like it or not, he is head of state and will travel as necessary. If he didn't, his haters would be all up in arms- just looking for any excuse.
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,683
^ Agree Robert. But I would say the media attention to reporting has been lackluster.
wheelrite Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
rfenst wrote:
I had read it might be 47 aircraft carriers, battleships and submarines!

Then I heard on the evening news that the whole thing was just a bunch of bull****, which sounds far more reasonable to me. No vessels at all.

Don't you wonder why stupid anti-Obama rumors and allegations like this go viral? I am sure that none of it has anything at all to do with it all the haters.

Like it or not, he's our President. Like it or not, he is head of state and will travel as necessary. If he didn't, his haters would be all up in arms- just looking for any excuse.



I hate his wife and his Cacker mama too,,Dancing
wheelrite Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
caker = CRACKER
rfenst Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
ZRX1200 wrote:
^ Agree Robert. But I would say the media attention to reporting has been lackluster.


If what I read is correct, the false rumor about the cost was started by one single news person in India. Then, other reporters began reporting that is what the reporter said. Ultimately, the truth of the matter came out- once the mor responsible news sources started checking out the rumor's accuracy. Actually, I think it is all kind of funny because the false rumor has some people frothing at the mouth and then when they hear what appears to be a more accurate number and/or the truth of the matter they still froth, just because the President is going on an international trip to several ountries and meetings. I just don't get how some people can allow themselves to get worked up over something they have no control over and which seems so damn benign.
HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,213
The guy in India that reported it is Keith Olbermann's outsourced replacement. He's still learning the new job.
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
HockeyDad wrote:
The guy in India that reported it is Keith Olbermann's outsourced replacement. He's still learning the new job.


That's funny! Let me go ask Bob, the new guy who recently moved in across the street. The employees he manages rwrite and impliment the software that the Wall Street trading houses use to balance their books each night. He'll have a real good idea how long it will take...
rfenst Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
Published - Nov 06 2010 07:24AM EST

By ERICA WERNER - Associated Press

U.S. President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama make a statement after their visit the memorial for the Nov. 26, 2008 terror attack victims at the Taj Mahal Palace and Tower Hotel in Mumbai, India, Saturday, Nov. 6, 2010.
MUMBAI, India — President Barack Obama says new trade deals between the U.S. and India will support more than 50,000 jobs in the U.S.

He said the relationship between America and India should be a win for both sides _ while acknowledging concerns in America about outsourcing.

Speaking Saturday to American and Indian chief executives on the first day of a 10-day trip through Asia, Obama said the relationship between the U.S. and India "will be one of the defining and indispensable partnerships of the 21st century."

He also announced a host of new trade deals, including aircraft purchases, that the White house says are worth $10 billion and will help support 54,0000 jobs....
Charlie Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
I think the numbers are a little skewed.............but it does seem like a little of an overkill to take so damn many people on this "junket" to the land of Naan. curry and madras!!!!!!!!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,634
rfenst wrote:
Published - Nov 06 2010 07:24AM EST

By ERICA WERNER - Associated Press

U.S. President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama make a statement after their visit the memorial for the Nov. 26, 2008 terror attack victims at the Taj Mahal Palace and Tower Hotel in Mumbai, India, Saturday, Nov. 6, 2010.
MUMBAI, India — President Barack Obama says new trade deals between the U.S. and India will support more than 50,000 jobs in the U.S.

He said the relationship between America and India should be a win for both sides _ while acknowledging concerns in America about outsourcing.

Speaking Saturday to American and Indian chief executives on the first day of a 10-day trip through Asia, Obama said the relationship between the U.S. and India "will be one of the defining and indispensable partnerships of the 21st century."

He also announced a host of new trade deals, including aircraft purchases, that the White house says are worth $10 billion and will help support 54,0000 jobs....



TOLD YA SO!!!!


andytv Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 10-23-2002
Posts: 40,991
It never ceases to amaze me that people swallow such bull****.
gringococolo Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 02-04-2006
Posts: 4,626
Here is some simple math.

1 room at the Taj Hotel is 25,000 IRP a night or about $567.50 a night (that was the cheapest rate).

Lets say the rooms start there and triple for the best. There are 560 rooms.

That makes the figure anywhere from $317,800.00 to $953,400.00 a night (whole hotel booked). It's an expensive trip. Probably 50 mil when all is said and done.
Brewha Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,207
You Liberals should keep quiet on this thread, and just enjoy the quiet sounds of conservative republicans practicing fellatio on each other . . . .
ZRX1200 Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,683
Haven't seen your classy posts lately.
DadZilla3 Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
Quote:
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
one idiot mentions $200,000,000. she heard it somewhere. then another idiot repeats it. eventually all the idiots in the same reality world they invented, start quoting each other.

this is because they do not live in a real world. they live in a world like ozzie and harriet. they live in a world that never existed and they discuss their invisible friends with each other.

good luck.

DrMaddVibe wrote:
Global Warming comes to mind.


Or believing in Obamacare...'we have to pass the bill so we can see what's in it'
rfenst Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
^
Don't change the subject away from the trip and it's alleged cost, or this will just turn into another political thread, just like several hundred others...
donutboy2000 Offline
#41 Posted:
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
#37

BRILLIANT RETORT !

jackconrad Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 06-09-2003
Posts: 67,461
Guiness could use a good man like RFENST !
donutboy2000 Offline
#43 Posted:
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
* American warships to patrol off Mumbai during visit
* Coconuts removed from trees as a precaution
* 250 U.S. business executives with Obama on 'biggest ever trade mission'
* $200million Asia trip cost denied but the President will have huge entourage


President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle arrived in India's commercial hub of Mumbai on Saturday, days after voters punished his Democrats in mid-term elections.

Probably not since the days of the Pharaohs or the more ludicrous Roman Emperors has a head of state travelled in such pomp and expensive grandeur as the President of the United States of America.

While lesser mortals – the Pope, Queen Elizabeth and so on – are usually happy to let their hosts handle most of the security and transport arrangements when they venture beyond their home shores, the United States creates a mini-America on the move to ensure that nothing is left to chance.

Obama arrives in India at the start of a ten-day tour of Asia. At the heart of the White House caravan is ‘The Beast’, a gigantic, ‘pimped-up’ General Motors Cadillac which security experts say is, short of an actual battle tank, probably the safest road vehicle on the planet.

But an outlandish car is only the start. Mr Obama will fly, of course, on Air Force One, the presidential private jumbo jet, which, boasting double beds and suites, is fitted out more like a luxury yacht. Some reports suggest it costs around $50,000 (£31,000) an hour to operate.

Of course threats can come from any direction, so a squadron of U.S. naval ships will patrol offshore. Some reports have claimed that 34 ships, including two aircraft carriers, will be involved (not far off the size of the Royal Navy’s entire Surface Fleet) but the White House has denied this.


On land, as well as The Beast, Mr Obama’s entourage will travel in a fleet of 45 U.S.-built armoured limousines, half of which will be decoys. He will also travel with 30 elite sniffer dogs, mostly German Shepherds.

The White House has, according to some reports, booked the entire Taj Mahal Palace Hotel in Mumbai, the city’s most luxurious. It is not uncommon for the grander heads of state to reserve a floor or two, but a whole hotel is unprecedented.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326962/Obamas-India-visit-security-erect-bomb-proof-tunnel-Gandhi-museum.html#ixzz14ZXwrZuu
snowwolf777 Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 06-03-2000
Posts: 4,082
The trade deal is worth $100 bajillion million zillion and will create/save/assist/somewhat support/loosely correspond to infinity to the second power jobs.

Making up numbers to justify things is fun!

Dancing

snowwolf777 Offline
#45 Posted:
Joined: 06-03-2000
Posts: 4,082
So we sold them a couple of planes, and they're going to open a bunch more call centers to outsource US product support.

Got that about right? Couldn't we just have announced that in a minor press conference?

DadZilla3 Offline
#46 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
rfenst wrote:
He also announced a host of new trade deals, including aircraft purchases, that the White house says are worth $10 billion and will help support 54,0000 jobs....


Are these in addition to the 2.5 million new jobs pledged by 2011?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/obama-pledges-t.html
rfenst Offline
#47 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
DadZilla3 wrote:
Are these in addition to the 2.5 million new jobs pledged by 2011?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/obama-pledges-t.html



If accurate and there are 2.5 million new jobs, then "yes" But, I 'm sure you hope he is wrong, the 2.5 million jobs don't come and that no good comes of anything he or others might do. Just keep on ragging and complaining so constructively. That is exactly whatour country and political system need to improve!
DadZilla3 Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
rfenst wrote:
If accurate and there are 2.5 million new jobs, then "yes" But, I 'm sure you hope he is wrong, the 2.5 million jobs don't come and that no good comes of anything he or others might do. Just keep on ragging and complaining so constructively. That is exactly whatour country and political system need to improve!

Actually, I hope the current administration's policies generate 25 million new jobs and balance the budget in one fell swoop but I don't see that ever happening through strategies like central planning, socialized medicine, and the proposed carbon emissions legislation.

What have I personally done to be constructive? I'd say most recently by actively supporting and eventually voting for conservative candidates in the last election, including one conservative Democrat.
rfenst Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,476
DadZilla3 wrote:
Actually, I hope the current administration's policies generate 25 million new jobs and balance the budget in one fell swoop but I don't see that ever happening through strategies like central planning, socialized medicine, and the proposed carbon emissions legislation.



I don't see that happening through any strategy, no matter who our President is and/or who is in or controlsthe legilature. But, back to the issue in the title of this thread: Presidtential travel.

donutboy2000 Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
Counselor, that ol' Marxist spin just ain't working today.

You can do better.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>