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Senator Rockefeller to FCC: End Fox News and MSNBC
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SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV): "There's a little bug inside of me which wants to get the FCC to say to FOX and to MSNBC: 'Out. Off. End. Goodbye.' It would be a big favor to political discourse; our ability to do our work here in Congress, and to the American people, to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and more importantly, in their future."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/17/sen_rockefeller_fcc_should_take_fox_news_msnbc_off_airwaves.html


Yep...we'd all be way better off if those nasty news channels would just be made to go away, and let the Congress do its job without all those pain in the a$$ private citizens always interfering.
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With the internet it doesn't really matter. Fox is the commie/progressive whipping boy of choice to demonize.

PMSNBC has no viewers so turning that off would be like banning FuzzNJ, nobody would notice.

But a politician discussing "silencing" public discourse is beyond disturbing. Its telling where democrats today are......Moderates need to take that party back.
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The Senator was sharing a nice dream. Not much different than wishing that stupid people were not stupid. Who would have thought that in the USA in 2010 we would see men like Glenn Beck talk hatefully regularly and have millions respect what they say as truthful and useful? Lots of real problems to consider, but some ignoramuses prefer attacks on George Soros for surviving the holocaust, or whatever lousy interpretation of history and deceit FOX offers.
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^ what does Glen Beck say that is hatefull, be specific. He has said plenty I disagree with, and his crying drives me away.....But hateful? Don't think so.

Yes what a dream to kill millions of stupid countrymen. Spoken like a fan of Stalin.

Surviving the holocaust? No. Try better deary. He is a evil man, everything Beck did in that piece was the mans own words either spoken in interviews or from his books.
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Ethan Kurland wrote:
Who would have thought that in the USA in 2010 we would see men like Glenn Beck talk hatefully regularly and have millions respect what they say as truthful and useful?


Probably about the same number that fervently believe that a slick talking empty suit could cure all their problems by redistributing wealth.
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#3

Thank you for the Marxist blog talking point.
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Ethan Kurland wrote:
The Senator was sharing a nice dream. Not much different than wishing that stupid people were not stupid. Who would have thought that in the USA in 2010 we would see men like Glenn Beck talk hatefully regularly and have millions respect what they say as truthful and useful? Lots of real problems to consider, but some ignoramuses prefer attacks on George Soros for surviving the holocaust, or whatever lousy interpretation of history and deceit FOX offers.



First, Soros didn't "survive" the Holocost. By his own admission, he participated in destroying Jews.

Second, if your dream is killing political speech just because you don't like the tone or the subject matter, maybe you'd be better off somewhere in a Sierra Leone, or some other African Marxist Banana Republic. While I intensly dislike MSNBC, the people on there have a right to express their views, and to provide time for those of like mind to express their views as well. I don't have to watch it, and as long as I don't have my tax dollars paying patronage to such an organization, they can say whatever in the hell they want.

You, on the other hand, "dream" about government stepping in and silencing people you don't like because of what they say.

Seriously, if you don't like this country, move to the "people's paradise" of Cuba with the rest of the vicious Marxists.

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Anyone who knowingly supports misinformation, disharmony, and stagnation of process clearly needs to just die off.
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dsmokers wrote:
Anyone who knowingly supports misinformation, disharmony, and stagnation of process clearly needs to just die off.


Ok...what's your beef? The original article or the responses?
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^ either being a smart azz or thinks Fox viewers do need to die....

Glad to see OP ran away
ZRX1200 Offline
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Sorry....meant Ethan.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Sorry....meant Ethan.



He'll be back but he won't acknowledge how f'n wrong he was.

If Beck was lying he'd have the power of Soros and his money up his can so far he'd be tasting it for the rest of his life.

That's not happening. Why? Proper investigative reporting. Factual evidence.

Soros doesn't have a leg to stand on. If he did, he was lying before and he is now.

Take your pick.

Our Manchurian Candidate the Kenyan King was anointed and funded by Soros as a nation killer.
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Is there anybody remaining who really believes either station offers news?

Then again, Santa did bomb my house.
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fiddler898 wrote:
Is there anybody remaining who really believes either station offers news?

Then again, Santa did bomb my house.



News or Op Ed shows?...you decide.
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Post 13 is hilarious. Beck not lying? Proper investigative reporting? Because, as he stated, "I can't lie because I'm saying this on tv."

Ever notice how the advertisers during Beck are all pushing "free" medicaid chairs and fat people mobility devices that can be "gotten for free?"

Old, stupid, food stamp using white people watch Beck. Money making genius that man is.
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dsmokers wrote:
Post 13 is hilarious. Beck not lying? Proper investigative reporting? Because, as he stated, "I can't lie because I'm saying this on tv."

Ever notice how the advertisers during Beck are all pushing "free" medicaid chairs and fat people mobility devices that can be "gotten for free?"

Old, stupid, food stamp using white people watch Beck. Money making genius that man is.



Soros' silence is DEAFENING.
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SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV):

No-working a-hole living large on great grandpappy's oil baron money.
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snowwolf777 wrote:
SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV):

No-working a-hole living large on great grandpappy's oil baron money.




I've had worse gigs!
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dsmokers wrote:
Post 13 is hilarious. Beck not lying? Proper investigative reporting? Because, as he stated, "I can't lie because I'm saying this on tv."

Ever notice how the advertisers during Beck are all pushing "free" medicaid chairs and fat people mobility devices that can be "gotten for free?"

Old, stupid, food stamp using white people watch Beck. Money making genius that man is.



I'm conservative, and I know who Beck is although I've never once seen his show (only small snippets on the internet).
His time slot doesn't fit into my schedule.
From what I've seen, I don't care for his style, despite agreeing with much of what he pushes.

But I read your post and wonder what you're aiming for?
Glenn Beck is a liar because his audience consists of old white moochers?

If Beck is a liar, please enlighten us with some of his untruths.
If he is spreading hate (I know, not your claim but I figured you agreed with that sentiment) then please cite an example of the hatred

You obviously disagree with Beck's politics, but how does that make him a liar?

Thanks.
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dsmokers wrote:
Post 13 is hilarious. Beck not lying? Proper investigative reporting? Because, as he stated, "I can't lie because I'm saying this on tv."

Ever notice how the advertisers during Beck are all pushing "free" medicaid chairs and fat people mobility devices that can be "gotten for free?"

Old, stupid, food stamp using white people watch Beck. Money making genius that man is.


If Glen Beck was out of line on anything he said, he'd be open to a defamation lawsuit. Soros is in the position to bleed both Beck and Fox News dry in court.

But he doesn't.

Actions speak louder than words.
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And do you (dssmoking) NOT think the left would love to hurt Fox & Beck financially? The fing WHITEHOUSE has gone after his sponsors....

Say what you will about Murdoch the Aussie likes money, and I'm betting Becks boss was making sure there was no lawsuit.

Can you defend Soros the money changer?
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Beck constantly pushes his viewers to sell their collectibles and gold. During one week, on three occaisions, he LIED and said they would need to report them in 2011, so they needed to hurry up. His "facts" were based upon reports from NIA and Wall Street Grand. Then his viewers got to see "invest in gold" commercials during the break. These same companies (NIA and Wall Street Grand) were the advertisers.

Sell your gold there's a financial crisis!
During the break we'll show you some companies that will buy it from you. They pay our bills.

Do you still not get it when I say he robs from little old ladies?

By the way, I noticed a couple of "sell your gold" threads here. Guess we have a few little old ladies on board?

Sell you gold, buy lotto tickets, that's my advice.
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How much does Soros pay you a week?
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JAY ROCKEFELLER needs to give away his money and move to North Korea.
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dsmokers wrote:
Beck constantly pushes his viewers to sell their collectibles and gold. During one week, on three occaisions, he LIED and said they would need to report them in 2011, so they needed to hurry up. His "facts" were based upon reports from NIA and Wall Street Grand. Then his viewers got to see "invest in gold" commercials during the break. These same companies (NIA and Wall Street Grand) were the advertisers.

Sell your gold there's a financial crisis!
During the break we'll show you some companies that will buy it from you. They pay our bills.

Do you still not get it when I say he robs from little old ladies?

By the way, I noticed a couple of "sell your gold" threads here. Guess we have a few little old ladies on board?

Sell you gold, buy lotto tickets, that's my advice.



So you don't have issues with what Beck says from a political perspective, but you are calling him out as a liar because of some advertising scam?

I was hoping you had a little more meat to your claims.

Carry on.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.


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Of course I have issues with his political views. As I mentioned above, Beck is nothing more than an advertising tool that is used to lure in and sell primarily to middle to elderly aged white people in the middle to lower classes. Sort of like this board we are chatting on now. Look up, notice all those shiney banners to remind you of the not one, but FIVE DIFFERENT types of sales you can track? Just like those shiney banners that roll across Fox News all day.

Fox spends more money than any other media outlet on state of the art flashy bling to keep its vicadin dazed audiences attention. Then they nail them with advertising for electric scooters, economy cars, and places to sell their gold. Beck acts like a child on his show because of it's appeal to the very demographic I mentioned above. Pure GENIUS on Fox's behalf. I totally hand it to them.

So yes, I have issues with his politics. Why? Because how can you trust anything or anyone who's sole purpose is to get you to spend your money (or MINE in the case of your free electric scooter or medicaid paid blood sugar counter for your fat lazy white bum)?

Anyway, that's my two cents. It's an advertising outlet. I don't care for it.
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dsmokers wrote:
Fox spends more money than any other media outlet on state of the art flashy bling to keep its vicadin dazed audiences attention. Then they nail them with advertising for electric scooters, economy cars, and places to sell their gold. Beck acts like a child on his show because of it's appeal to the very demographic I mentioned above. Pure GENIUS on Fox's behalf. I totally hand it to them.


First, what specific "bling" are you talking about?

Second, MSNBC also advertised electric scooters, economy cars, and gold on their network.

Maybe you need to stop pleasuring yourself with pictures of Ted Kennedy while you post?

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So you don't understand the concept of Fox's "bling," you have no opinion since someone else does it too, and you throw out really silly insults to whomever can't reach out and smack you upside your fat head face to face. Nice. You're a really class act there dude.
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dsmokers wrote:
Because how can you trust anything or anyone who's sole purpose is to get you to spend your money (or MINE in the case of your free electric scooter or medicaid paid blood sugar counter for your fat lazy white bum)?


Careful...I think that's a trick question.
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dsmokers wrote:
So you don't understand the concept of Fox's "bling," you have no opinion since someone else does it too, and you throw out really silly insults to whomever can't reach out and smack you upside your fat head face to face. Nice. You're a really class act there dude.


They sell rapper jewlery?

Seriously, put down the crack pipe (and I mean that in a very un-insulting way). You'll live longer.

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dsmokers wrote:
Of course I have issues with his political views. As I mentioned above, Beck is nothing more than an advertising tool that is used to lure in and sell primarily to middle to elderly aged white people in the middle to lower classes. Sort of like this board we are chatting on now. Look up, notice all those shiney banners to remind you of the not one, but FIVE DIFFERENT types of sales you can track? Just like those shiney banners that roll across Fox News all day.

Fox spends more money than any other media outlet on state of the art flashy bling to keep its vicadin dazed audiences attention. Then they nail them with advertising for electric scooters, economy cars, and places to sell their gold. Beck acts like a child on his show because of it's appeal to the very demographic I mentioned above. Pure GENIUS on Fox's behalf. I totally hand it to them.

So yes, I have issues with his politics. Why? Because how can you trust anything or anyone who's sole purpose is to get you to spend your money (or MINE in the case of your free electric scooter or medicaid paid blood sugar counter for your fat lazy white bum)?

Anyway, that's my two cents. It's an advertising outlet. I don't care for it.



Here's a newsflash for you, dsmokers:
Television networks are in the business of making money.

Shhhh.
Let's keep it a secret so the "other" networks (ie NOT foxnews) don't find out.

OR, and this is just a hypothetical here, perhaps the other stations DO advertise.
But you don't "hate" on them because they don't have right wing hosts who dare call out the emperor for skipping around sans-skivvies.

Also, for my own edification please, how does Becks childish antics "appeal to the very demographic" you mentioned above??
I never knew that "middle to elderly aged white people in the middle to lower classes" liked childish behavior.

Maybe that's how Justin Beiber won at the music awards?

Or maybe, just MAYBE, you have no clue about what you're talking about.
Because that same demographic alos like the NON childish hosts on foxnews.
So perhaps it's the conservative angle rather than the antics?

IBut I'm sure I'm wrong somehow. So I'll let you enlighten us with your mastery of marketing 101.

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dsmokers wrote:
how can you trust anything or anyone who's sole purpose is to get you to spend your money (or MINE in the case of your free electric scooter or medicaid paid blood sugar counter for your fat lazy white bum)?


DSmokers is right:
We need to DRASTICALLY reduce medicare/caid payments to white people.
Only people "of color" are worthy of charity.

Screw the proletariate.
Class war is SOOO 1970's

We've moved on to secret race war.

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Tailgater,
I point out why Beck does what he does, and how effective it is, and you reply by giving me a lesson in why Beck does what he does, yet you try to explain why it ISN'T effective. So which is it? Are the news channel in the business to make money and Beck is a great advertising tool, or are they in the business to make money and Beck is NOT a good money making tool? You can't argue both, although doing so gives you better chance of defending them. Which makes me wonder, WHY are you defending them? Are you on their payroll? Or are you simply one of their pawns that sees the subliminal banners, hears the voiceovers, and like the robot that you are, you blindly puff up your chest to anyone or anything that questions the great advertising giant....FOX NEWS. Which is it?
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Lumpa,
The way take a discussion regarding the demographic of an advertiser, and somehow turn it into a racial debate speaks volumes about both your intellect and the place where your heart lies. Quit being so simple minded. Think deeper than just gnashing your teeth when someone says something you either don't understand, or can't understand.
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dsmokers wrote:
Tailgater,
I point out why Beck does what he does, and how effective it is, and you reply by giving me a lesson in why Beck does what he does, yet you try to explain why it ISN'T effective. So which is it? Are the news channel in the business to make money and Beck is a great advertising tool, or are they in the business to make money and Beck is NOT a good money making tool? You can't argue both, although doing so gives you better chance of defending them. Which makes me wonder, WHY are you defending them? Are you on their payroll? Or are you simply one of their pawns that sees the subliminal banners, hears the voiceovers, and like the robot that you are, you blindly puff up your chest to anyone or anything that questions the great advertising giant....FOX NEWS. Which is it?



Ummm.
I can't answer if you don't ask a coherent question.

Where did I "try to explain why it ISN'T effective"?

Let me start over.

YOU stated that Beck appeals to old white hop-a-longs by acting childish.
I cited facts that dispell your myth.

That's not defending a position. It's simply pointing out your short-sighted impressions in a thread filled with your otherwise pretentious blathering.

I expect my foxnews paycheck before the end of the month.
Carry on.


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The free electric scooter ads should be used to identify people for Carousel.
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Dude, stay focused. You've now narrowed this discussion to whether or not it's only old white people that watch FOX and whether or not you clearly cited facts to dispute that.

How did we end up there? My original post discussed Beck being nothing more than an advertising tool built on selling to the demographic that he appeals to.

Can we go back to him being an advertising tool and try to stay on topic? How about we address my post line by line?
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So I should quit watching the Super Bowl, because it's "an advertising tool built on selling to the demographic that (it) appeals to."

I see it all now. I gotta quit watching The Office, NASCAR, all news programs ... wait a minute ...

HOLY HELL! Yumpin' Yesus! The code has been cracked!

I just now realized that virtually all TV shows have advertisers, unless the show itself is an advertisement, like for a set of really cool knives, or QVC, which is a show that's really a 24-hour ad that poses as a show. And (stay with me), I bet in all these cases, they're trying sell to that particular show's demographic.

I gotta mix me a drink and think about this one.

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Sector 14...goes by the code name Snowwolf.

He knows too much, take him out. Roll the black helicopters.
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And on a more serious note, please e-splain how Beck is any different from Keith Overbite, Chris "tingle-leg" Matthews, Rachel Madcow, Rush, Hannity, Levin ... any of them? I mean other than the abysmal ratings for the PMSNBC commentators. You think any of them would be on the air without someone shoving ad cash into their master's hands?
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Sorry HD. Already in the survival shelter. Foil hat in place. Smoking a Padron, enjoying a drink, waiting to dunk the turkey in hot oil tomorrow.

I suppose the gunships could home in on the steam coming out of the ground when I'm cooking the turkey.
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So you agree with me, Snowwolf? You agree that Beck is nothing more than a media tool to make money by scripting fiction?

Why the sarcasm if you agree? Why the smart arsed tone of voice? Work on your interpersonal skills instead of just flapping your arms and talking like a fool to someone you've never met as if I were your mommy and I just told you to put on a jacket.
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Ever notice that you never see fat old people. I wonder if there is a resale market for those scooters.

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D-smoker: I told you I agree that they all work for ad money. And demographics. And ratings.

Beck's bumper at the top of every hour is "The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment". He admits he's an entertainer.

And I treat you like the a*s clown you are, because in every single post you work in some smart-a*s insult on the previous poster, while simultaneously taking him to task for being a smart-a*s and insulting.

You're new on this board and you're no more than a mosquito to me.
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HD - I might consider picking one up, if it had a rack to haul a deer out of the woods. The quiet approach vs. a 4-wheeler.

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I'll have a call in to Glen Beck to see if he'll buy me one with all his gold money.
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dsmokers,

If your sole premise is to suggest that the television personality Glenn Beck strives to maximize his marketing potential, then I guess I'd have to agree.

But read your own posts.
You don't simply suggest this premise. You pontificate by citing inaccurate stereotypes while leaving a wake of gaping holes by your ommission of EVERY OTHER talking head from both sides of the aisle.

So pardon me if I got momentariliy side tracked.

Now excuse me while I get my free Lark serviced. I purchased it on Rachel Maddows website. Now it turns only to the left...
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Tailgater - You got the NASCAR Lark, didn't you?
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