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Northsidepk Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:11 PM EST
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All nations in South America have started or already have nationalized large corporations. There is no incentive for a company to strengthen the U.S. The only incentive is to horde liquid capitol and keep compensation low. Corporate America is going to take, take, take until there is some sort of public resistance. This is not a anti-democratic statement this is anti-capitolism, where did all the companies with pensions and heath care go? Why do we out-source high-tech position to poverty stricken countries? Our saving grace will be the abundance of latin americans moving into our beloved country and taking over the politics. Mark my words the first latin president will be another F.D.R and it will be a whole NEW DEAL!
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:19 PM EST
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outrage
wheelrite Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:21 PM EST
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Companies don't exist to provide jobs and benefits.

Your premise is flawed...
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:31 PM EST
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And how much higher is the pay and benifits and level of safety for American workers?

Companies are mov ing because of burdensome regulations and taxes.

What union do you work for?
Northsidepk Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:39 PM EST
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What if the government was funded by corporations and not the public?

Look at Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil, and Argentina....Low unemployment, solid and improving infrastructure, good healthcare, democratic government, better education, all in all the U.S. is going to be the third-world country in 100 years and South America will have one government and currency.
wheelrite Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:41 PM EST
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Hugo will be on MT. Rushmore...
Northsidepk Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:43 PM EST
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Right now the government and corporations are preying on the population. C.E.O's and politicians have fat wallets while the majority of the public are without basic healthcare benefits, paid vacation, or a decent wage.

The college and university system is bleeding our youth into debt for a second class education.

The top 5% gets wealthy while the rests standard of living is in a downward spiral.
Northsidepk Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:46 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Hugo will be on MT. Rushmore...


Our politicians and media have us think that he is a dictator.

What do you think our government would do if Mr. Chavez sponsored a coup here? Cause thats what we did to him.

FACT: Hugo Chavez has been re-elected 13 times, his population loves him, he has increased the standard of living and gotten rid of all foreign debt for Venezuela.
wheelrite Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:47 PM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
Right now the government and corporations are preying on the population. C.E.O's and politicians have fat wallets while the majority of the public are without basic healthcare benefits, paid vacation, or a decent wage.

The college and university system is bleeding our youth into debt for a second class education.

The top 5% gets wealthy while the rests standard of living is in a downward spiral.


Sorry you're not doing well.
If you rely soley on others for your success,you'll never be successful...

btw,

The top 5% pay the majority of Fed.Taxes..
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:50 PM EST
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Have you been to south America?

Better healthcare? Schools?

Seriously.

And what entity in the US is ruining the things you complain need fixed?

THE GOVERNMENT!!!

Corps aren't in my book by nature "good stewards". But guess what, you can not buy a product. You cannot "non-participate" in govt.....

Fuzz, welcome back btw. Did you tip the doorman a homemade sandie?
Northsidepk Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:51 PM EST
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What do you think the feds and corp.'s are doing? Relying on us for their success, while they do their best to infringe on our rights!

BTW wrong middle-class pays the majority of fed. income tax

see---->http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/68094
Northsidepk Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:55 PM EST
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Why is it that U.S and Canadian seniors both go to Cuba for illegal healthcare! Its cheaper and better. A script that would cost hundreds in the U.S. can be gotten for less than ten dollars in South America and Cuba.

And YES better education, state sponsored colleges and graduate schools.

Yes their not up to speed on somethings but how long do you think its going to take for them to surpass us?

Point is their making progress in areas were moving backwards.
wheelrite Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:57 PM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
What do you think the feds and corp.'s are doing? Relying on us for their success, while they do their best to infringe on our rights!

BTW wrong middle-class pays the majority of fed. income tax

see---->http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/68094



Wrong..

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
DadZilla3 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 7:59 PM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:

Look at Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil, and Argentina....Low unemployment, solid and improving infrastructure, good healthcare, democratic government, better education, all in all the U.S. is going to be the third-world country in 100 years and South America will have one government and currency.


Last I heard, Venezuela was ruled by an authoritarian Marxist who employs politically motivated arrests to keep critics in line, and the Argentinian economy began a long slow decline in 1930 and collapsed completely in 2001 before staggering back on its feet.

I'll probably regret this I know, but I'm gonna pass on these golden opportunities for investment in the South American juggernaut and waste my meager 401(k) funds right here in the USA.
wheelrite Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:00 PM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
Why is it that U.S and Canadian seniors both go to Cuba for illegal healthcare! Its cheaper and better. A script that would cost hundreds in the U.S. can be gotten for less than ten dollars in South America and Cuba.

And YES better education, state sponsored colleges and graduate schools.

Yes their not up to speed on somethings but how long do you think its going to take for them to surpass us?

Point is their making progress in areas were moving backwards.



A ridiculous post...
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:04 PM EST
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^ FuzzNJ is already slipping in his return to the boards.
Northsidepk Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:06 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Last I heard, Venezuela was ruled by an authoritarian Marxist who employs politically motivated arrests to keep critics in line, and the Argentinian economy began a long slow decline in 1930 and collapsed completely in 2001 before staggering back on its feet.

I'll probably regret this I know, but I'm gonna pass on these golden opportunities for investment in the South American juggernaut and waste my meager 401(k) funds right here in the USA.


The entire reason most South American economies collapsed in the late 90's and early 2000's is the IMF (International Monetary Fund) drove them into debt while pressured by the U.S.

Now the entire continent save for a few stragglers is out of all foreign debt!

How well off do you think this country would be with NO debt?

That is reason enough to start taking cue's from them.

And really? All press relating to Hugo Chavez and most South American leaders has been totally skewed by U.S media.

Don't believe everything you watch on FOX news man! Get into international press and unbiased sources?
ZRX1200 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:08 PM EST
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And if Chavez is so loved why are protestors imprisoned and tv stations taken over that criticize him?

He is a dictator that is lucky to have natural resources enough to support his Marxist way for now.

How would this country be doing if enviro-wackos weren't ruining our capabillities to harvest natural resources? Hmmmmm...
ZRX1200 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:10 PM EST
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Listen to more govt run media? Hehe.....dude FuzzNJ you know good whiskey and gin, but you may wanna go easy there bro.
Northsidepk Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:11 PM EST
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And when we have no resources left??

The one TV station he did take over was for fiscal purposes! Just like he nationalized oil and agriculture! Read through the lines man!
Northsidepk Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:13 PM EST
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And where is Venezuela's trade deficit? NON-EXCISTANT

They now produce more than they use.
wheelrite Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:18 PM EST
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northside is a Bolivian ,,,
Northsidepk Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:20 PM EST
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I've been south of the border several times and have seriously thought about it, not Bolivia in peticular, but def. Costa Rica or Mexico
ZRX1200 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:23 PM EST
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You need ticket money bro?
Northsidepk Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:25 PM EST
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Nah, were already planning a honey-moon down there for January
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:35 PM EST
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Took the only station over that was critisizing him for financial reasons?

Wow. You got your finger on the pulse bro.

I thought you were already married Fuzz? A kept man. Mr. Mom. Grandma ownes a slumlord nursing center....
tailgater Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:35 PM EST
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Northy,

Too many posts to choose just one, so I'll ask in general:
Are you being serious?

If you are (and that's honestly OK), then you truly should seek out a life in one of those "better" countries. Hell, if I saw another nation as superiour to ours, then I'd do everything possible to move there and improve the lot for my kids.
Northsidepk Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 8:42 PM EST
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OK

But I did not say they were better. At this point in time they just might have a better way of doing some things.

Are we so close-minded that we cannot look at our politicians enemies and say "hey, there making progress and were not"

Are we so proud that it blinds us to the fact that we are not perfect and therefor someone might know a better way?

Our faults are glaring and have been for some time, but we just keep on trucking down the same road.
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#29 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 9:13 PM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
I've been south of the border several times and have seriously thought about it, not Bolivia in peticular, but def. Costa Rica or Mexico



Have you ever been kidnapped and beheaded in Mexico ?
wheelrite Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 9:25 PM EST
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Published: March. 3, 2010 at 4:01 PM

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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. UPI /Monika Graff | Enlarge CARACAS, Venezuela, March 3 (UPI) -- The Venezuelan economy contracted in 2009 under the weight of a political crisis triggered by power and water shortages and disenchantment with government policies against dissent, analysts said.

Tough government measures to punish businesses and individuals on charges of ignoring edicts on power and water rationing, consumer goods supplies and independently run media all contributed to a muted nationwide response that reflected disapproval and disenchantment in indirect ways.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has reacted angrily to any public criticism of his style of governance and its effects on the economy and general well-being of the his citizenry.

Frequent electricity power blackouts disrupted both urban and rural communities throughout 2009 and the problem continues this year. Chavez blames chronic drought for depleting water levels in reservoirs that, in turn, reduces the country's power generation capacity.

His critics say government mismanagement has also played a part in the resulting problems for the population.

Venezuela's economy gross domestic product fell 3.3 percent in 2009, including a contraction of 5.8 percent in the last quarter, the Central Bank of Venezuela said. The BVC report blamed the global downturn and falling prices for crude oil, the country's main export, for the sour figures.

BCV President Nelson Merentes said in his end-of-the-year message that Venezuela's economy had shrunk 2.9 percent in 2009, the first fall in Venezuelan GDP in five years.

The oil business declined 7.2 percent in 2009 over the previous year due to the "lower level of production." Analysts said that wholesale dismissals of experts and technicians from the oil industry after Chavez's "reforms" had played a part in the country's oil drop in productivity.

BCV said the drop in production was due to compliance with cuts adopted by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, of which Venezuela is a founding member. Venezuela says it agreed to reduce oil production by 364,000 barrels per day in 2009, leaving production at some 3 million bpd. Analysts said the reduced output was also the result of disruptions in the oil industry.

Venezuela's non-oil activity shrank 4 percent in the fourth quarter of 2009. The largest declines occurred in the areas of transport services (16.9 percent), commerce (13.9 percent), manufacturing (6.9 percent), mining (4.8 percent), construction (3.5 percent) and real estate services (2.8 percent).


Wow ...

Facts don't lie..

I'm gonna move down there ASAP !!!


wheel,,
wheelrite Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 9:31 PM EST
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Brazil is the biggest country in Latin America. The poverty in Brazil is visible with the slums in the country’s metropolitan areas, and its remote upcountry regions suffering from economic underdevelopment and the substandard living conditions.

2.6 percent of Brazilians live below the poverty line.

Poverty levels in Brazil are unacceptably high. They relate to a lack of appropriate medical care as well as the availability of water and sanitation facilities. Access to education, health care and employment are a big problem for many of the poor.

The biggest social challenge for the Brazilian government and society is the lack of education, housing, health care and nutrition for the homeless children. Thousands live on the streets, abandoned by parents unable to afford to raise them. These children often abuse drugs, commit crimes and resort to prostitution to survive. The government has developed programs through the Ministry of Social Assistance to combat the poverty and starvation of these homeless children.





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In 2003 the Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva launched an ambitious program to eliminate poverty in Brazil. The program was called Zero Hunger.

“150 000 children under five die every year because of hunger” Frei Betto, adviser to Lula said. He felt the child mortality rates “a scandal”.

The program has had allegations of corruption aimed at it but does help many poor families as a report showed in 2007. Betto does however admit the aim for success was initially unrealistic time wise, but that the program is making a difference. Through the program money is given directly to mothers of children instead of the man of the house in the belief this is a more reliable was to ensure children do benefit, and are fed.

According to UNICEF about 42 percent of Brazilian children live in poverty. Also approximately one eighth of all Brazilian children live on the streets. The Brazilian government has kept a tight reign on social spending to meet its debt payments despite a firm commitment to end poverty and hunger. Only a fraction of the national budget is allocated to programs benefitting children.

Poverty pushes children into work and away from education and creates a breeding ground for malnutrition, sexual exploitation and violence against children. Due to the fact Brazil does not enforce child labor laws this industry thrives among the impoverished children. One factor is that schooling is so expensive.

Over 12 million children live in the semi – arid region which makes up Brazil’s most vulnerable states. Here literacy, infant mortality and water are below national average.

Despite Brazil being on its way to achieving primary education universally many schools do not teach basic skills.



Utopia ????


Lol,,

wheel,,
Northsidepk Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 9:45 PM EST
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Brazil had a quarter trillion dollar surplus last year, 250 Billion dollar surplus.

Wheel, its common knowledge that the media is and has slandered Hugo Chavez, based on that one can assume that we are not getting the truth and ofter getting the opposite of reality reported to us.

As for Brazil's slums, yup their there, and there crime rate is historic as well....Can't believe your passing judgment when they have just begun to reform. Up until the mid-2000's the Brazilian government was largely influenced by the U.S

Most of South America's problems have been multiplied by U.S meddling, just in the last half decade or so have they actually begun to govern themselves.

Hell, Bolivia's last president hardly spoke Spanish and lived in the states!!! Just in the last 5 years has Bolivia had a Bolivian president!!! And all these shenanigans are a product of the U.S. imposing its political will. Isnt that what a dictatorship is? Politicians imposing their will on others? We've been doing that for a while!
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 10:26 PM EST
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Yeah Wheel open your eyes to his truth.......

Ignore reality.

The US imperialist pigs have ruined south America.
ZRX1200 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 10:32 PM EST
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Just look at all the people risking their lives and illegally crossing their boarders.......
Northsidepk Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 10:32 PM EST
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2 of those statements are true. Look what our politicians do to US, how well do you think their going to treat other countries?
Northsidepk Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 10:34 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Just look at all the people risking their lives and illegally crossing their boarders.......


I'm glad there coming here, their children will be citizens and run for office
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 11:28 PM EST
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donutboy2000e


that is one of the best critical retort you have ever posted. how do you keep coming up with such snappy responses.

i wonder how he would respond if he had been beheaded


if the default is black why is it an option on the font color chart
Northsidepk Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2010, 11:30 PM EST
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I would imagine I would be very quiet
DadZilla3 Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 4:02 AM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
The entire reason most South American economies collapsed in the late 90's and early 2000's is the IMF (International Monetary Fund) drove them into debt while pressured by the U.S.


No 'it's all Bush's fault' ?
tailgater Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 8:15 AM EST
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North,
I've read the posts, and I'm issueing a BS flag.

You can't possibly believe the stuff you're stating and/or insinuating.

Despite the efforts of Michael Moore, et al, the economy/healthcare is NOT stronger in these countries.
Surplus? Are you serious? They only have a surplus because their poor are ACTUALLY poor and they don't make any efforts to remedy it.

The quality of healthcare in the USA is far superior to that in South America.
Most "medical visits" south of the border are for two things:
1. illegal drugs
2. cheap plastic surgery.

That's a far cry from being a better system.


This country was built on capitalism.
It's insulting when the uninformed want to trash it in favor of weaker systems without knowing the facts.
Economies ebb and flow. You can't target a low point and surmise that therefore the sytem is broken. You have to look at the long term.
Our freedoms stem from our ability to separate the government from the economy.

But instead of debating general terms, please answer this:

Do you think the federal government has proven themselves to be the most trustworthy and efficient manager of your money?
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 8:21 AM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
I'm glad there coming here, their children will be citizens and run for office


You're glad that people are coming here illegally?




I honestly don't believe you.
SteveS Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 8:28 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
donutboy2000that is one of the best critical retort you have ever posted. how do you keep coming up with such snappy responses.
i wonder how he would respond if he had been beheaded


I agree ... it is one of the best critical retorts ever posted ... the rest of us can only wish we were able to keep coming up with such snappy responses.

as for now our friend Northside would respond had he actually been beheaded, I'd imagine it would be pretty much as he is doing now ... it's quite evident that he is incapable of clear thought and/or critical reasoning
HockeyDad Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 10:21 AM EST
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My evil corporation does business in Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina and all over Latin America. Actually we do twice as much business there than in North America. I personally have spent some time in Brazil for work.

Let's just say that with the exception of a few cities, life down there is very different than in the USA, Canada, or Europe. I encourage anyone to visit and experience it for themselves, not just buy into hollow retoric. Airline tickets are cheap.

Check back three times a week while on vacation.
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#44 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 10:28 AM EST
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I heard women in Brazil walk around half naked and stuff.... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 10:32 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard women in Brazil walk around half naked and stuff.... Mellow



The dress code is a bit more relaxed than in the USA. (Translation: hoochie!)
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2010, 11:19 AM EST
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hoochie is good.... Mellow
donutboy2000 Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2010, 2:05 AM EST
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Northsidepk wrote:
I've been south of the border several times and have seriously thought about it, not Bolivia in peticular, but def. Costa Rica or Mexico



2 bodies hung from bridge, man beheaded in Tijuana

Posted: Nov 19, 2010 6:41 PM PST Updated: Nov 19, 2010 6:41 PM PST


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Feds find cross-border smuggling tunnel, 30 tons of pot
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Gunmen kill 13 at drug rehabilitation center in Tijuana
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State Department warns of violence threat in Mexico
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Body encased in cement found in Tijuana
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Official's body found hanging from Tijuana bridge

TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Two men were slain and hung from a bridge, another was decapitated and a fourth was shot to death over 24 hours in Tijuana, the latest gruesome killings in a Mexican border city where hopes had risen that cartel violence was decreasing.

The bodies of two men were found hanging from the Los Alamos bridge early Friday, said Fermin Gomez, Baja California state's deputy attorney general for organized crime.

Both victims had their hands and feet bound and one had his head covered with a black plastic bag. One of the bodies fell into traffic when the rope broke.

A day earlier, a human head was found underneath another bridge in Tijuana, which sits across from San Diego, California. The body of the 24-year-old man was found 12 hours later alongside the highway from Tijuana to the beach town of Ensenada.

Gomez said the victim, Victor Ramirez, had recently been deported from the United States, though he had no information on the circumstances.

Also Thursday, a man was shot to death while leaving his house in the exclusive Tijuana neighborhood of Chapultepec, and two other people were wounded in a shootout on one of the city's main avenues.

Gomez blamed the killings on feuding between drug-dealing gangs, but declined to give details.

Beheadings, massacres and body hangings had initially declined in Tijuana since the January arrest of Teodoro "El Teo" Garcia Simental, one of two crime bosses who had been waging a bloody turf war in the city.

President Felipe Calderon even visited Tijuana last month and touted it as a success story in his nearly four-year-old drug war, noting during a festival to promote the city's industries that homicides are down from a peak in 2008.

Days after his visit, drug gangs started beheading rivals and hanging bodies from bridges again. On Oct. 24, armed men burst into a Tijuana drug rehab center and killed 13 recovering addicts.

Prosecutors say they are investigating whether the rehab massacre was related to a record seizure of nearly 135 tons of marijuana the previous week.

The latest killings come two weeks after U.S. authorities made one of the largest marijuana seizures in San Diego, confiscating more than 20 tons of pot that was smuggled in through a tunnel connecting warehouses on either side of the border. Mexican authorities seized more than four tons of pot from the warehouse on their side of the border.
rfenst Offline
#48 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2010, 5:43 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ FuzzNJ is already slipping in his return to the boards.



Believe me, this kid ain't no Fuzz.

Fuzz is very bright, but is also a royal d1ck, who doesn't understand that there are certain "sacred matters" that you just don't mock others over. Harrasing others over their shock from watching an Olympic athlete get killed and chiding a BOTL about his hard earned sobriety, crossed way over the line.

Sure, Fuzz was far left of most people posters here and knew how to stir the pot, but he did so with out the idiotic statements the OP has made in this thread.
Northsidepk Offline
#49 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2010, 8:51 AM EST
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donutboy2000 wrote:

2 bodies hung from bridge, man beheaded in Tijuana

Posted: Nov 19, 2010 6:41 PM PST Updated: Nov 19, 2010 6:41 PM PST


*
Feds find cross-border smuggling tunnel, 30 tons of pot
*
Gunmen kill 13 at drug rehabilitation center in Tijuana
*
State Department warns of violence threat in Mexico
*
Body encased in cement found in Tijuana
*
Official's body found hanging from Tijuana bridge

TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Two men were slain and hung from a bridge, another was decapitated and a fourth was shot to death over 24 hours in Tijuana, the latest gruesome killings in a Mexican border city where hopes had risen that cartel violence was decreasing.

The bodies of two men were found hanging from the Los Alamos bridge early Friday, said Fermin Gomez, Baja California state's deputy attorney general for organized crime.

Both victims had their hands and feet bound and one had his head covered with a black plastic bag. One of the bodies fell into traffic when the rope broke.

A day earlier, a human head was found underneath another bridge in Tijuana, which sits across from San Diego, California. The body of the 24-year-old man was found 12 hours later alongside the highway from Tijuana to the beach town of Ensenada.

Gomez said the victim, Victor Ramirez, had recently been deported from the United States, though he had no information on the circumstances.

Also Thursday, a man was shot to death while leaving his house in the exclusive Tijuana neighborhood of Chapultepec, and two other people were wounded in a shootout on one of the city's main avenues.

Gomez blamed the killings on feuding between drug-dealing gangs, but declined to give details.

Beheadings, massacres and body hangings had initially declined in Tijuana since the January arrest of Teodoro "El Teo" Garcia Simental, one of two crime bosses who had been waging a bloody turf war in the city.

President Felipe Calderon even visited Tijuana last month and touted it as a success story in his nearly four-year-old drug war, noting during a festival to promote the city's industries that homicides are down from a peak in 2008.

Days after his visit, drug gangs started beheading rivals and hanging bodies from bridges again. On Oct. 24, armed men burst into a Tijuana drug rehab center and killed 13 recovering addicts.

Prosecutors say they are investigating whether the rehab massacre was related to a record seizure of nearly 135 tons of marijuana the previous week.

The latest killings come two weeks after U.S. authorities made one of the largest marijuana seizures in San Diego, confiscating more than 20 tons of pot that was smuggled in through a tunnel connecting warehouses on either side of the border. Mexican authorities seized more than four tons of pot from the warehouse on their side of the border.

Mexico is a country with almost eight hundred thousand square miles in area. And you thought I meant Tijuana when I said I have contemplated moving to Mexico??? Thats like Judging the U.S based on the worst areas in Baltimore,DC,New Orleans, and Detroit......Why don't you quote the pollution in Mexico City next or the Kidnapping rate in Mazatlan???? YES there are very bad areas, and NO the vast majority of Mexico is not a bad area.
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#50 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2010, 9:36 AM EST
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Stick to Playa del Carmen and Cancun....The "real" Mexico.
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