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why is the government screing guld war veterans
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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 5:38 PM EST
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i just saw a pogram about gulf war veterans. i meant program, but something made me type pogram, so i'll leave it that way.

i don't recall WWII vets being screwed by the federal government.

agent orange caused a lot of harm to men sent to war by chicken hawks who avoided the responsibility they inflicted on others. by the time the government said agent orange "might" have caused all the illness involved with it's use, a large percent of the veterans had died or gotten so sick they were incurable.

gulf war syndrome is something i can;t remember any discussion about in the media, but now i hear about lost records, denial of coverage by the VA. and a lot of pundits claiming it was caused by the media mentioning it back then and mass hysteria expanding it.

military suicides have increased .

i was against the iraq war and staying in afganistan is inane, and obama is an idiot to spill more blood to protect a corrupt regime. it didn't matter who became the leader in afganistan he government would still have been corrupt.

there is nothing that can be done to impove the afganisan's lives and there will never be. it's a stone age society.

back to agent orange and gulf war syndrome..

i have not heard anything from the democrats, the republicans, the tea partyers or any elected official discussing this shame we have become.
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 5:44 PM EST
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.......Am I gonna regret agreeing with you?
wheelrite Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 5:54 PM EST
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The Guld war was waged in the Alpha Centauri System .Yoda was killed there...
wheelrite Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 6:01 PM EST
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Is it me ,or is Rick our commie version of Archie Bunker ??

no intense offended, Rick
MACS Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 7:39 PM EST
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Personally... I've got no issues with the way I have been treated since returning. I was in the gulf in 02/03 and /04 and in Iraq in 06. No adverse effects from having been there or from receiving the anthrax shots.

Maybe you're not familiar with this, Rick, but some people in this world try to "get over". Looking to collect "disability" for a nonexistent "injury" or "ailment".

When I retired I went to RETAP. Retirement transition assistance program. There was this really, really fat guy from the VA BRAGGING about how he collects his retirement AND disability because of all his physical problems. Most of which would be cured if he LOST SOME EFFING WEIGHT.

It really pissed me off. But hey... if you taxpayers are so concerned about our gulf war veterans, and willing to foot the bill... maybe I'll go back to the VA and complain about something so I can get paid!

C'mon man... you have zero information other than what you "heard". Trust me... there's nothing new here. People will always want something for nothing.
dsmokers Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 8:16 PM EST
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I had three friends die of bone cancer that were in my BN during the first Gulf War, MACS. I have another that has an unexplainable rash that appears over his entire body every 6 months or so. The list of strange ailments that comes out of the first Gulf War, particularly involving front line ground troops and special opns folks is pretty intense. From what I understand not a lot of guys on boats out in the ocean were exposed to the strange crap on the ground that others were. To claim that some guys are looking for attention is probably true. To say it so assured that it is the majority of the cases is irresponsible. Me? Walked away without a scratch....
fishinguitarman Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 8:22 PM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
I had three friends ...








I CALL BS!!!!!
MACS Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 9:00 PM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
From what I understand not a lot of guys on boats out in the ocean were exposed to the strange crap on the ground that others were.


I could barely fill a 6 oz cup with what you understand. Perhaps you didn't read the part where I was NOT on a ship (boats are those small floating things we have on the side of our ships) and I was actually IN the country of Iraq in 2006?

Whatever. I expect nothing less from you.
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 9:30 PM EST
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FWIW I was agreeing with Nam/agent orange part. I don't think there is enough evidence with the gulf troops, 3 immediate family members spent time in country. Rick I do think its a viable conversation topic though.....
dsmokers Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 9:48 PM EST
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What part of "FIRST GULF WAR" didn't you understand, MACS? You were on the ground about 16 years too late for what I'm talking about here, bro. Don't be so quick to jump down people's throats, dude. A lot of soldiers and marines that were on the ground in the first war came back with some really messed up skin, bone, and general health issues. Can't say much for the Navy and Air Force, but if they were on the ground, I imagine there's a few out there as well.
MACS Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 10:23 PM EST
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Clarification: I'm not saying NOBODY got sick... some obviously did. I think more of them are just looking for bennies, though.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 10:54 PM EST
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^ I think what polesmoker is saying here is the govt has a bad history of denying things and doesn't want fakers to get in the way of folks who need help.
I could be wrong, happened before!
jpotts Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2011, 12:04 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
i just saw a pogram about gulf war veterans. i meant program, but something made me type pogram, so i'll leave it that way.

i don't recall WWII vets being screwed by the federal government.




That depends on what you define as "screwed," Rick. If the WWII vets didn't get "screwed," the WWI, Civil War, Revolutionary War, and Vietnal War vets complained they were "screwed."

In fact, after WWI, George Patton had the thankless task of breaking up a WWI vet tent city that they had erected in Washington DC.

You have a very, very poor memory of history RICKAMAVEN, from a guy who claims to be so "worldly."
jpotts Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2011, 12:07 AM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
What part of "FIRST GULF WAR" didn't you understand, MACS? You were on the ground about 16 years too late for what I'm talking about here, bro. Don't be so quick to jump down people's throats, dude. A lot of soldiers and marines that were on the ground in the first war came back with some really messed up skin, bone, and general health issues. Can't say much for the Navy and Air Force, but if they were on the ground, I imagine there's a few out there as well.



I have a personal friend who was a front-liner in Guf War I. Part of the first wave to enter Iraq.

He'd says tha same thing as MACS (albeit in a far less gay sorta way).

Frankly, Jimmy, given the blatant BS you push around here, it wouldn't surprise me if you were serving meals to staff generals stateside when the lead was flying...
jackconrad Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2011, 12:08 AM EST
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Why does the Left keep trying to USE Vets to advance their stupid agenda. How low can it get...
Kawak Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2011, 1:05 AM EST
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Would it be to much to ask rick to post prior to hitting the crack pipe? Brick wall
jpotts Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2011, 1:08 AM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
Why does the Left keep trying to USE Vets to advance their stupid agenda. How low can it get...


Because it'd be too obvious to use children as human shields.
donutboy2000 Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jan 23 2011, 1:01 PM EST
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Obama hates the military !
dsmokers Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jan 24 2011, 3:08 PM EST
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Hey Potts, Rick said he didn't recall the WWII vets getting screwed. You replied with some bs about him personally, but never offered any evidence to the contrary. You rather offered something about WWI. You can't jump around like that. If your teacher in class asked you what 2+2 is, would you tell her 2+5 equals 7? What gives?
dsmokers Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jan 24 2011, 3:11 PM EST
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So Potts you had a friend that was in the first gulf war, and he didn't get sick. Cool. Neither did I. I mentioned that above. Again, if your teacher asked you who navigated the Mayflower, would your response be "willie wonka drove that funny looking boat on a chocolate river!"

Stop blurting out nonsense in class, lest you get labeled as stupid, boy.
apachelm Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Jan 24 2011, 3:26 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:


gulf war syndrome is something i can;t remember any discussion about in the media, but now i hear about lost records, denial of coverage by the VA. and a lot of pundits claiming it was caused by the media mentioning it back then and mass hysteria expanding it.




There was plenty discussion about GWS in the media back in the 90's. In fact I do believe it was bantered around that that was what Timothy McVeigh's issue was.


edit:
Here is a news story I found from 8-9 years ago

http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/13091/
jackconrad Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Jan 24 2011, 11:29 PM EST
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Ds , i am glad you didn't get sick and thank you for your service. But what makes you so bitter?
dsmokers Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Jan 24 2011, 11:32 PM EST
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No need to thank me. I was, after all, getting paid. But I do appreciate the sentiment. I don't understand your "bitter" comment though. Do I sound bitter?
jackconrad Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 12:37 AM EST
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Kind of..
dsmokers Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 1:12 AM EST
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Well then, explain to me how because I'm not seeing it. Thanks.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 10:03 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Gulf war syndrome is something i can;t remember any discussion about in the media, but now i hear about lost records, denial of coverage by the VA. and a lot of pundits claiming it was caused by the media mentioning it back then and mass hysteria expanding it.


You've admitted on this very site to doing the very same thing and thinking it was funny.

You'd have to be a complete moonbat to have not heard anything about this. One of my favorite BOTL's used to keep this board up to date on this very topic FOR YEARS!!!

Sadly, He suffers from this too and is fighting for his life.

If you're so damn misinformed about a topic like this then you should be on Veteran's websites advocating for their benefits and rights. While you're there be sure to tell them how you used to move their files around.
dsmokers Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 3:24 PM EST
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Yep, that guy is a real ass.
fishinguitarman Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 4:47 PM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
Yep, that guy is a real ass.






Lemme guess...You're talkin to yourself in front of a mirror....
dsmokers Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 4:54 PM EST
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No. If I were, I would be saying "now that guy has a great ass."
fishinguitarman Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 5:00 PM EST
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That didn't exactly sound right either......
dsmokers Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 5:03 PM EST
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Why not? I do have a great ass. I'm proud of my ass. It's round, firm, and hard. Sorta like your head, but doubled. In fact, if you had a twin, and you both stood side by side, and bowed forward , you'd look like my ass.
fishinguitarman Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 5:08 PM EST
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You're just jealous that I have such a pretty head that doubles as a solar panel for a sex machine
dsmokers Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 5:11 PM EST
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I have a double solar panel for a sex machine. Sorta feel strange walking around in assless pants though. :)
fishinguitarman Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 5:12 PM EST
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OK...Hadda laugh at that one....d'oh!
jackconrad Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Jan 25 2011, 7:24 PM EST
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Scre'd again !
jpotts Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:18 PM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
So Potts you had a friend that was in the first gulf war, and he didn't get sick. Cool. Neither did I. I mentioned that above. Again, if your teacher asked you who navigated the Mayflower, would your response be "willie wonka drove that funny looking boat on a chocolate river!"

Stop blurting out nonsense in class, lest you get labeled as stupid, boy.


Actually, one of my relatives was on the Mayflower.

Plus - and I guess you missed this - I never claimed that you we're sick. I just claimed that I think you're full of BS when it comes to being in Guld War I. It would be consistent with your other assertions.

As for stupid...well...you've got that covered already.
jpotts Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:21 PM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
Why not? I do have a great ass. I'm proud of my ass. It's round, firm, and hard. Sorta like your head, but doubled. In fact, if you had a twin, and you both stood side by side, and bowed forward , you'd look like my ass.



Ummmm...Jimmy? Most people don't have the buttcheeks located on the top of their neck like you do...
dsmokers Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:29 PM EST
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I had many a fine set of buttcheeks perched on my neck dude. Doncha wish you did?
fishinguitarman Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:30 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
Ummmm...Jimmy? Most people don't have the buttcheeks located on the top of their neck like you do...







He didn't get it....Went right over his head....Prolly too busy crammin potato chips in his mouth....
dsmokers Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:34 PM EST
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Fish why do you get all religious and holier than thou on me on one post, friendly on this one, and now today, after I backed off of your are coming at me full force on every f*ck8ing thread you can? Is this what you meant when you said you would pray for me?

I'm going to say this one more time. Take a look at how you talk to and about me, and then you may understand why I speak and act the way I do.

Are you with Jesus today, or are you a drunk azzhole? Please tell me so I know how to treat you.

I like the friendly Fish. The one from up above a couple of posts.
fishinguitarman Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:40 PM EST
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Dude...You must have completely lost your sense of humor....To sensitive to take a joke? SHEESH! Lighten up...Go smoke that joint and relax a little...


I'm gonna soak in a hot tub after a good day's WORK and then jump my wife's bones before she heads to the condo with the girls....


Prolly wait til Sat to partake of the spirits again...

Life in the South is GRAND!





I actually thought the Shrooms crack was pretty funny, but you had to go and get all blasphemous on me, just to try to instigate a 'fight' as YOU called it! Kinda immature don't cha think? LOL!
dsmokers Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 6:44 PM EST
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I took your comments seriously. My bad. Use a little smiley or something, eh? Otherwise people might think you were being serious, and just being nice now because you got busted. Either way, I'm happy we are cool again. The hottub sounds nice. I do that daily as well. We have THAT in common at least. :)
fishinguitarman Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2011, 7:01 PM EST
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Herfing If ya can't tell, I'm a bit of a smartazz
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#44 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2011, 12:05 AM EST
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