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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/17/fast-furious-how-a-botched-operation-spawned-fatal/



Media still doesn't get it wasn't a mistake....



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/13/obama_spoke_about_fast__furious_before_holder_claimed_he_knew.html
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Let's see: Senate passes amendment to stop any further programs like F&F and Gunrunner Oct 18. 99-0

Issa issues sup to FBI questioning the "third gun" at Agent Terry's murder. To respond by Nov 3.

Today their grilling Napolitano. No surprise she's playing dumb. Gonz
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MCAddict wrote:
Let's see: Senate passes amendment to stop any further programs like F&F and Gunrunner Oct 18. 99-0

Issa issues sup to FBI questioning the "third gun" at Agent Terry's murder. To respond by Nov 3.

Today their grilling Napolitano. No surprise she's playing dumb. Gonz



She's not playing. In this administration it comes natural!LOL
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Attorney General Eric Holder’s tenure in the Obama administration may be coming to an end. At least eight members of Congress have now called on Holder to resign over the growing Operation Fast and Furious scandal.

Republican Reps. Vicky Hartzler of Missouri, John Mica of Florida, Quico Canseco of Texas and Gus Bilirakis of Florida each told The Daily Caller on Thursday that they believe Holder should step down now. The number of members of Congress calling for Holder to end his career in government because of Fast and Furious is now eight, a number which has doubled in one day.

Previously, Republican Reps. Joe Walsh of Illinois, Raul Labrador of Idaho, Blake Farenthold of Texas and Paul Gosar of Arizona called on Holder to resign.

A spokesperson for Mica, a powerful congressman who serves on the House oversight committee and chairs the House Transportation Committee, told TheDC that he “thinks Attorney General Holder should resign, for more than just the Fast and Furious operation mishandling.”

Hartzler spokesman Steven Walsh said the congresswoman doesn’t think Holder is capable of leading the Justice Department after his flimsy May 3 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee.

“Congresswoman Hartzler is of the opinion that documents pertaining to Fast and Furious call into question Attorney General Holder’s testimony before the House Judiciary Committee,” Walsh said in an email. “In particular, she is concerned with his testimony regarding knowledge of the timeline of the gun program. Given the information we now have, she is of the opinion that Mr. Holder is not up to the task of advocating on behalf of the American people and should resign.”

At that May 3 hearing, Holder said he had not learned of Operation Fast and Furious until a few weeks before — even though Iowa GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley told TheDC he personally handed Holder an inquiry letter about the scandal months before. (RELATED: Rep. Joe Walsh to Holder: ‘Resign immediately’)

Since then Grassley and House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, the two leading congressional Fast and Furious investigators, have probed the White House for answers to questions about how Obama knew of the program before Holder claims he knew. Obama addressed Operation Fast and Furious in an interview on Univision about a month before Holder claims he first learned of the gun-walking program.

In an email, Canseco told TheDC that Operation Fast and Furious endangered many Americans in his Texas district, which includes “almost 800 miles of U.S.–Mexico border that is already struggling to deal with the threat of Mexican cartels and violence that is spilling over from Mexico into the United States.”

“Attorney General Holder’s approval of an operation that could put the lives of Americans at risk, as was the case with Operation Fast and Furious, and the fact that he misled Congress — whether intentionally or not — about his involvement has demonstrated to me that he does not possess the judgment that I believe is necessary to serve in the position of Attorney General of the United States,” Canseco said.

“Attorney General Holder’s lack of judgment has only made the situation along the U.S.–Mexico border that much more difficult to deal with as he made it possible for the Mexican cartels to be better armed, compliments of the American taxpayer.”

Canseco added that it would be in the best interest of Americans’ safety for Holder to step aside now.

“I call on him to put the safety and interests of the American people first and resign as Attorney General,” Canseco said.







Hmmmmmm. Well see.
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http://pjmedia.com/blog/breaking-pj-media-finds-gunwalker%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98unreachable%e2%80%99-man-in-the-white-house/?singlepage=true


The most transparent administration!

Another LIE!Liar
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Holder is scheduled to testify on Dec 8. I guess they've wiped all the hard drives and shred all they possibly can. Now it's coaching lessons or how to plead the 5th. Gonz
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/11/codrea-vanderboegh-exclusive-documents.html


HANG THEM!
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Feinstein may have inadvertently confirmed Gunwalker ulterior motive

In a breaking news report concerning the Gunwalker scandal, Seattle Gun Rights Examiner Dave Workman indicates that Senator Dianne Feinstein, D-California, may have inadvertently confirmed the ulterior motive behind the scheme known as 'Operation Fast and Furious.'

During a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism late today, former Assistant Attorney-General Lanny Breuer provided testimony that confirms that the information presented to Congress by the Department of Justice, that guns were not being allowed to walk, was false.

Breuer's defense, however, is that he had only reported what he had been told by officials in the ATF and the DOJ, although that information turned out to be untrue.

The acknowledgment that false information had been provided to Congress came in response to questioning by Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.

However, when it became Senator Dianne Feinstein's turn to question Breuer, the focus immediately changed to the 'need for gun control' and bans of so-called 'assualt weapons.' The California Democrat wasted no time in zeroing in on the common meme parroted by numerous Administration officials that the flow of guns across the border into Mexico from the United States must be stopped:

FEINSTEIN: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that. Mr. Breuer, in June of this year, I received a letter from the ATF. This was in response to a letter I had asked them from Acting Director Melson, stating that 29,284 firearms recovered in Mexico in '09 and 2010, and submitted to the ATF tracing center. With those weapons, 20,504, or 70 percent, were United States sourced. A country of origin for the remaining firearms apparently could not be determined by ATF, meaning that the number could be much higher. What info -- what actually is the number? Now this was back in June. Is that the most current number? Is it fair to some that 70 percent of the firearms showing up in Mexico are from the United States?

BREUER: Thank you, Senator, for the question, and for your leadership on this issue. You have, of course, identified the paramount issue that we have to face as we deal with transnational organized crime from the Mexican cartels. From my understanding, 94,000 weapons have been recovered in the last five years in Mexico. Those are just the ones recovered, not the ones that are in Mexico. Of the 94,000 weapons that have been recovered in Mexico, 64,000 of those are traced to the United States. We have to do something to prevent criminals from getting those guns, Senator. That is my understanding of the most accurate numbers.

FEINSTEIN: Well, you see, this is a deep concern for me. And I know others disagree, but we have very lax laws when it comes to guns. I think this, to some extent, influences the ATF in how they approach the problem, as to whether they have political support or not. But I think these numbers are shocking. And I think when you know the number of deaths these guns have caused, used by cartels against victims, it's in -- literally up in the tens of thousands. So the question comes, what can we do? And I'd really rather concentrate on the constructive rather than other things. And so the question comes, do you believe that if there were some form of registration when you purchase these firearms that that would make a difference?

Not only did Feinstein immediately jump into the subject of gun control, but she repeated the very falsehood the Administration used from the beginning to justify its illegal operation in the Gunwalker scheme--that the vast majority of the guns used by Mexican drug cartels come from the United States.

But Feinstein's statement depicts the growing discrepancy on the figures used by the Administration to attempt to justify gun bans. Early on it was 90% of the guns came from the United States. This was repeated by Barack Obama, Janet Napolitano, Hillary Clinton, and others. Now, however, the figure has mysteriously dropped to 70%.

Why? Even the 70% figure is wrong. But the Administration obviously now sees that it shot itself in the foot by overreaching on the figures. The 90% figure is patently and grossly false. Thus, the figure was lowered. But even the 70% figure cannot be justified by the facts.

The key to understanding the 70% mantra is the phrase, "Of the weapons recovered." The firearms that have been recovered in Mexico represent only a small fraction of the total number of weapons used in criminal activity in the country.

In addition, an analysis provided by Pajamas Media indicates that a more realistic figure is that only 8% of guns recovered in Mexico came from licensed U.S. gun dealers, as reported to Congress by ATF management. Here are the correct figures:

Of the 100,000 weapons recovered by Mexican authorities, only 18,000 were determined to have been manufactured, sold, or imported from the United States, and of those 18,000, just 7,900 came from sales by licensed gun dealers.

That figure has been confirmed by ATF Deputy Assistant Director Bill McMahon.

In spite of Feinstein's all-too-obvious attempt to turn Breuer's testimony into a gun ban love-fest, Workman says it didn't seem to go anywhere:

Feinstein’s attempt to change the subject and the focus toward gun control does not appear to have impressed anyone. Breuer’s assertion that “very few hunters…or sports people…really need to have semiautomatic weapons or long guns” may come as a shock to the presidents of Winchester Repeating Arms, Browning, Remington, Mossberg, Benelli, Beretta, Sturm Ruger and others, who annually sell thousands of semi-auto shotguns to hunters, competitors and sport shooters.


In other words, sportsmen and hunters love those types of weapons so much that gun manufacturers have trouble keeping up with the demand. And, Feinstein just may well have proved that Fast and Furious was nothing more than the illegal handiwork of gun ban hysterics who needed a reason to enact more gun control, even if that reason were trumped up.


http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/feinstein-may-have-inadvertently-confirmed-gunwalker-ulterior-motive?do_not_mobile_redirect=1
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Under Fienstein's "assault" weapons ban in the late 90's, if I had chosen not to move out of California, I would now be a felon with the guns I legally purchased there before the the ban went into effect in '99. If I choose to move back to Cali with my guns, I would be a felonious gunrunner especially since I have since legally purchased more "ban-list" firearms here in Utah. Issa and Grassley better watch it...Feintstein and her ilk will hijack this investigation overnight. What a bitch. Gonz
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http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/11/holder-to-accuse-investigators-of.html?spref=fb&m=1
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http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/10/grassley-holder-refusing-to-provide-11-witnesses-for-fast-and-furious-interviews/
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After listening and watching his "testimony", I'm convinced that Holder is an **** with no soul. He answers to his fuehrer and that's it. Gonz
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Embattled Attorney General Eric Holder today demanded The Daily Caller stop publishing articles about the growing calls in Congress for his resignation because of the failed Operation Fast and Furious gun-walking program.

As Holder’s aide was escorting the attorney general offstage following his remarks Tuesday afternoon at the White House, a Daily Caller reporter introduced himself and shook Holder’s hand. The reporter asked him for a response to the growing chorus of federal legislators demanding his resignation.

Holder stepped towards the exit, then turned around, stepped back toward the reporter, and sternly said, “You guys need to — you need to stop this. It’s not an organic thing that’s just happening. You guys are behind it.”

Holder then walked offstage without answering TheDC’s request for comment about calls for his resignation.

Watch:



Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program, overseen by the Justice Department, which facilitated the sale of thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers. Straw purchasers are people who can legally purchase guns in the United States but do so with the intention of illegally trafficking them into Mexico.

At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

Currently 52 members of Congress, three presidential candidates and two sitting Governors have called for Holder’s immediate resignation. Many of those lawmakers and political figures have issued statements exclusively to The Daily Caller in which they have called for Holder to step down. This is chiefly because TheDC is the most prominent mainstream media outlet covering this burgeoning international scandal. (RELATED: Members of Congress calling for Holder’s immediate resignation)

Holder is the nation’s leading law enforcement official and reports directly to President Barack Obama.

This was not the first time Holder has criticized The Daily Caller’s coverage of Operation Fast and Furious. In his first-ever unsolicited letter to Congress about the gun-walking operation on October 7, Holder criticized Rep. Paul Gosar for comments he made exclusively to TheDC. Gosar had said the Obama administration officials responsible for Fast and Furious were equivalent to “accessories to murder.”

Holder was the primary speaker at a White House event Tuesday intended to publicize a new national campaign stigmatizing the purchase of counterfeit consumer goods including clothing, medicines, software, songs and movies.

One of the ads unveiled during the event asked consumers not to buy such products because the money would help illegal gunrunners.

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http://nation.foxnews.com/fast-and-furious/2011/11/30/whistleblowers-punished-over-fast-and-furious
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This is such BS that this isn't front and center for people to see. I'm sure there is way more to this than will ever be known.
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Obama Admin Seals Records of Murdered Border Patrol Agent Implicated in Fast and Furious - Nov. 30, 2011 • By MARK HEMINGWAY

And to think that Attorney General Eric Holder is getting testy about congressional calls for his resignation. After all, the Justice Department has nothing to hide, right?:

The Obama Administration has abruptly sealed court records containing alarming details of how Mexican drug smugglers murdered a U.S. Border patrol agent with a gun connected to a failed federal experiment that allowed firearms to be smuggled into Mexico.

This means information will now be kept from the public as well as the media. Could this be a cover-up on the part of the “most transparent” administration in history? After all, the rifle used to kill the federal agent (Brian Terry) last December in Arizona’s Peck Canyon was part of the now infamous Operation Fast and Furious. Conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the disastrous scheme allowed guns to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels.

The murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent is related to the Justice Department willingly turning over thousands of guns to Mexican criminal gangs, and Obama administration is hiding information about his death from the public. Amazing.
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http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/justice-dept-details-got-statements-wrong-215322145.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us




"Flawed law enforcement initiative "??????????


FUGGING ILLEGAL YOU STUPID JACKAZZ PRESS.
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Operation Cover-Up . . .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-operation-fast-and-furious-justice-dept-details-how-it-gave-incorrect-statements-to-hill/2011/12/02/gIQAttlxLO_story.html
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http://news.investors.com/Article/593738/201112051804/justice-department-retracts-false-letter.htm
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http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/12/07/emails-show-atf-intended-to-use-fast-and-furious-to-promote-gun-control/

Uh oh......shït might hit da fan now.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/12/07/emails-show-atf-intended-to-use-fast-and-furious-to-promote-gun-control/

Uh oh......shït might hit da fan now.

I sure hope so, this is such a effed up deal, someone needs to be held accountable.
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http://issues.oversight.house.gov/fastandfurious/
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If this had happened under Bush’s watch, you’d be hearing about it on the major networks ad nauseam. Probably even have a "FnF death count" undated daily. I guess Dear Leader has far more friends in the mass right wing media (per Fuzzy) then Bush ever had.
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dpnewell wrote:
If this had happened under Bush’s watch, you’d be hearing about it on the major networks ad nauseam. Probably even have a "FnF death count" undated daily. I guess Dear Leader has far more friends in the mass right wing media (per Fuzzy) then Bush ever had.


That's what Himler's SA was good for. Gonz
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MCAddict wrote:
That's what Himler's SA was good for. Gonz



And what happened to Himmler?
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Foaming at the mouth dead from a cyanide pill. We can only hope. Got to get these turd-polishers on the run first. Gonz
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At that moment, protesters were rallying outside the library, some in support of stricter voter identification laws and others holding signs urging Mr. Holder to resign over the disputed gun-trafficking investigation, known as Operation Fast and Furious. Several dozen jeered when his motorcade arrived.

In the interview, Mr. Holder offered a glimpse of how he viewed the criticism. He said he thought some critics — like Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who favors allowing the military to handle terrorism suspects over the criminal justice system — are expressing “good faith” arguments about their policy disagreements.

But Mr. Holder contended that many of his other critics — not only elected Republicans but also a broader universe of conservative commentators and bloggers — were instead playing “Washington gotcha” games, portraying them as frequently “conflating things, conveniently leaving some stuff out, construing things to make it seem not quite what it was” to paint him and other department figures in the worst possible light.

Of that group of critics, Mr. Holder said he believed that a few — the “more extreme segment” — were motivated by animus against Mr. Obama and that he served as a stand-in for him. “This is a way to get at the president because of the way I can be identified with him,” he said, “both due to the nature of our relationship and, you know, the fact that we’re both African-American.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/us/politics/under-partisan-fire-eric-holder-soldiers-on.html?_r=3


Yeah, they're picking on you...because you're a hyphenated jackwagon! Riiii-ght!

It's not because you're breaking the law or anything? Sure?
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You know it's not going well when he pulls this card out.
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Nothing sets race relations back like playing the race card and the NAACP.horse

I find it shameful that this cretin would actually stoop that low.

So much for Hope and Change. They want to play the same old game.Crying
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Chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona, Patrick Cunninham, refused to testify before the House Oversight Commitee regarding op F&F, claiming the Fifth. This is the first crack in the otherwise unified defense offered up by Holder and his subordinates.

This is good news. When you use the 5th, your a step closer to a Special Prosecutor. Gonz
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/24/key-player-in-fast-and-furious-scandal-refuses-to-testify-in-congressional/
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Latest Friday night document dump shows Holder was informed of Brian Terry’s murder on day Fast & Furious weapons killed border agent
By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller Published: 4:27 PM 01/28/2012 | Updated: 11:52 AM 01/29/2012


WASHINGTON, DC - NOVEMBER 08: U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder testifies during a Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing about the controversial the "Operation Fast and Furious" gun running program on Capitol Hill, on November 8, 2011 in Washington, DC. "Operation Fast and Furious" was set up to be a sting set up by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that allowed weapons to be purchased from Arizona gun shops by Mexican drug cartels to trace cross boarder gun trafficking. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Attorney General Eric Holder’s Department of Justice dumped documents related to Operation Fast and Furious on congressional officials late Friday night. Central to this document dump is a series of emails showing Holder was informed of slain Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder on the day it happened – December 15, 2010.

An email from one official, whose name has been redacted from the document, to now-former Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke reads: “On December 14, 2010, a BORTAC agent working in the Nogales, AZ AOR was shot. The agent was conducting Border Patrol operations 18 miles north of the international boundary when he encountered [redacted word] unidentified subjects. Shots were exchanged resulting in the agent being shot. At this time, the agent is being transported to an area where he can be air lifted to an emergency medical center.”

That email was sent at 2:31 a.m. on the day Terry was shot. One hour later, a follow-up email read: “Our agent has passed away.”

Burke forwarded those two emails to Holder’s then-deputy chief of staff Monty Wilkinson later that morning, adding that the incident was “not good” because it happened “18 miles w/in” the border.

Wilkinson responded to Burke shortly thereafter and said the incident was “tragic.” “I’ve alerted the AG [Holder], the Acting DAG, Lisa, etc.”

Then, later that day, Burke followed up with Wilkinson after Burke discovered from officials whose names are redacted that the guns used to kill Terry were from Fast and Furious. “The guns found in the desert near the murder BP officer connect back to the investigation we were going to talk about – they were AK-47s purchased at a Phoenix gun store,” Burke wrote to Wilkinson.

“I’ll call tomorrow,” Wilkinson responded.

Holder has faced difficult questions surrounding the question of when he was first informed of the gunwalking program. He testified in Congress that he had only learned of Fast and Furious a “few weeks” before a May 3, 2011, House Judiciary Committee appearance.

Holder has since walked back that “few weeks” comment, amending it to more of a “couple months.”

“I did say a ‘few weeks,’” Holder said during a November 8 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, responding to a question from its chairman Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy. “I probably could’ve said ‘a couple of months.’ I didn’t think the term I said, ‘few weeks,’ was inaccurate based on what happened.”

There have also been a series of documents containing the intimate details of Fast and Furious that were sent to Holder throughout 2010 from several of his senior aides. Holder claims he did not read his memos.

Holder will be appearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform next Thursday, Feb. 2. Though Holder has already testified before Congress three times about matters relating to Fast and Furious — twice before the House Judiciary Committee and once before the Senate Judiciary Committee — this is the first time the House oversight committee will have an opportunity to question Holder himself.

“The Judiciary Committee has multiple issues with the Attorney General,” House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa said in an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller last week. “We have one issue: the issue of breaking the law in order to enforce the law.”

“The oversight committee is investigating the Department of Justice, which is very different than his appearances before the Judiciary Committees in which they’re asking how things are going at Justice. What we’ve discovered in our investigations is a pattern of cover-up [and] delay. Ultimately Congress was given false information and now we’ve had people both resign and take the Fifth as we try to get to the basic elements of why and how was Congress lied to.”

A total of 103 members of the House have called for Holder’s resignation or firing, expressed “no confidence” in Holder via a formal House Resolution, or both. Two sitting governors, two U.S. senators and all the major Republican presidential candidates join those 103 congressmen in not trusting Holder. Many of those who have called for Holder’s resignation have pointed out that Holder claiming that he didn’t read his memos is a sign that he’s admitting incompetence to avoid charges of corruption.

This article was updated after publication. A previous version reported Holder was informed that the weapons used to kill Terry were linked to Operation Fast & Furious. But a letter to Congress provided by the DOJ suggests only that Monty Wilkinson was made aware. That letter states Wilkinson does not recall telling Holder. Reached Sunday, a spokesperson for Holder relied only on that letter, and declined to confirm that Holder himself was not informed.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/28/latest-friday-night-document-dump-shows-holder-was-informed-of-fast-and-furious-connection-to-brian-terry%e2%80%99s-murder-on-day-border-agent-died/#ixzz1kwiJEBt0



So...he DID lie. What is the penalty for perjury in front of a Congressional committee?
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Depends on what is is.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/31/issa-threatens-contempt-charge-against-holder-if-justice-fails-to-comply-with/
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Would somebody with the knowhow please forward this to that MORON Elijah Cummings. PLEASE!!! Gonz


DrMaddVibe wrote:
Latest Friday night document dump shows Holder was informed of Brian Terry’s murder on day Fast & Furious weapons killed border agent
By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller Published: 4:27 PM 01/28/2012 | Updated: 11:52 AM 01/29/2012


WASHINGTON, DC - NOVEMBER 08: U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder testifies during a Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing about the controversial the "Operation Fast and Furious" gun running program on Capitol Hill, on November 8, 2011 in Washington, DC. "Operation Fast and Furious" was set up to be a sting set up by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that allowed weapons to be purchased from Arizona gun shops by Mexican drug cartels to trace cross boarder gun trafficking. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Attorney General Eric Holder’s Department of Justice dumped documents related to Operation Fast and Furious on congressional officials late Friday night. Central to this document dump is a series of emails showing Holder was informed of slain Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder on the day it happened – December 15, 2010.

An email from one official, whose name has been redacted from the document, to now-former Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke reads: “On December 14, 2010, a BORTAC agent working in the Nogales, AZ AOR was shot. The agent was conducting Border Patrol operations 18 miles north of the international boundary when he encountered [redacted word] unidentified subjects. Shots were exchanged resulting in the agent being shot. At this time, the agent is being transported to an area where he can be air lifted to an emergency medical center.”

That email was sent at 2:31 a.m. on the day Terry was shot. One hour later, a follow-up email read: “Our agent has passed away.”

Burke forwarded those two emails to Holder’s then-deputy chief of staff Monty Wilkinson later that morning, adding that the incident was “not good” because it happened “18 miles w/in” the border.

Wilkinson responded to Burke shortly thereafter and said the incident was “tragic.” “I’ve alerted the AG [Holder], the Acting DAG, Lisa, etc.”

Then, later that day, Burke followed up with Wilkinson after Burke discovered from officials whose names are redacted that the guns used to kill Terry were from Fast and Furious. “The guns found in the desert near the murder BP officer connect back to the investigation we were going to talk about – they were AK-47s purchased at a Phoenix gun store,” Burke wrote to Wilkinson.

“I’ll call tomorrow,” Wilkinson responded.

Holder has faced difficult questions surrounding the question of when he was first informed of the gunwalking program. He testified in Congress that he had only learned of Fast and Furious a “few weeks” before a May 3, 2011, House Judiciary Committee appearance.

Holder has since walked back that “few weeks” comment, amending it to more of a “couple months.”

“I did say a ‘few weeks,’” Holder said during a November 8 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, responding to a question from its chairman Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy. “I probably could’ve said ‘a couple of months.’ I didn’t think the term I said, ‘few weeks,’ was inaccurate based on what happened.”

There have also been a series of documents containing the intimate details of Fast and Furious that were sent to Holder throughout 2010 from several of his senior aides. Holder claims he did not read his memos.

Holder will be appearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform next Thursday, Feb. 2. Though Holder has already testified before Congress three times about matters relating to Fast and Furious — twice before the House Judiciary Committee and once before the Senate Judiciary Committee — this is the first time the House oversight committee will have an opportunity to question Holder himself.

“The Judiciary Committee has multiple issues with the Attorney General,” House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa said in an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller last week. “We have one issue: the issue of breaking the law in order to enforce the law.”

“The oversight committee is investigating the Department of Justice, which is very different than his appearances before the Judiciary Committees in which they’re asking how things are going at Justice. What we’ve discovered in our investigations is a pattern of cover-up [and] delay. Ultimately Congress was given false information and now we’ve had people both resign and take the Fifth as we try to get to the basic elements of why and how was Congress lied to.”

A total of 103 members of the House have called for Holder’s resignation or firing, expressed “no confidence” in Holder via a formal House Resolution, or both. Two sitting governors, two U.S. senators and all the major Republican presidential candidates join those 103 congressmen in not trusting Holder. Many of those who have called for Holder’s resignation have pointed out that Holder claiming that he didn’t read his memos is a sign that he’s admitting incompetence to avoid charges of corruption.

This article was updated after publication. A previous version reported Holder was informed that the weapons used to kill Terry were linked to Operation Fast & Furious. But a letter to Congress provided by the DOJ suggests only that Monty Wilkinson was made aware. That letter states Wilkinson does not recall telling Holder. Reached Sunday, a spokesperson for Holder relied only on that letter, and declined to confirm that Holder himself was not informed.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/28/latest-friday-night-document-dump-shows-holder-was-informed-of-fast-and-furious-connection-to-brian-terry%e2%80%99s-murder-on-day-border-agent-died/#ixzz1kwiJEBt0



So...he DID lie. What is the penalty for perjury in front of a Congressional committee?

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#136 Posted:
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MCAddict wrote:
Would somebody with the knowhow please forward this to that MORON Elijah Cummings. PLEASE!!! Gonz





ZACKLY...They have him dead to rights breaking the law that he's sworn to defend and they won't put him in handcuffs!
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#137 Posted:
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LAWSUIT TIME!!!


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-bc-us--borderagentkilled-claim,0,6392012.story
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#138 Posted:
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Add Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-NY) to that list. ram27bat

DrMaddVibe wrote:
ZACKLY...They have him dead to rights breaking the law that he's sworn to defend and they won't put him in handcuffs!

DrMaddVibe Offline
#139 Posted:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QUz6xrxi8Cg


"Wherever YOU'RE from"????


Really?


From the AG no less.


Oh wait...this is the same guy that threw down the Race Card...Excuse me sir...there's only one of those in the deck and you already played YOURS! You also wasted you Victim Card too!

BITCH!
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#140 Posted:
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After is "testimony' Thursday, I got to say Holder is a fairly consistant liar. The files on this case must possess a high order of compartmentalization. Much more so than the Nixon affair. To crack this open, Cummings needs to be recused and some imunity granted to key individuals...who ever they are. Gonz
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#141 Posted:
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http://dailycaller.com/android/?desturl=http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/07/former-tucson-dea-head-holder-either-knew-of-gun-walking-or-was-willfully-unaware/





I suppose this guy is probably racist though.
ZRX1200 Offline
#142 Posted:
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TRAITORS ON THE LEFT OF ME.

TRAITORS AND COWARDS ON THE RIGHT.

HERE I AM STUCK WITH NO PARTY AGAIN.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2843551/posts
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#143 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
TRAITORS ON THE LEFT OF ME.

TRAITORS AND COWARDS ON THE RIGHT.

HERE I AM STUCK WITH NO PARTY AGAIN.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2843551/posts

Well if you thought there was a difference between the parties this should show you it's one big happy family running the show.
Holder is as guilty as they come and they won't go after him why?
ZRX1200 Offline
#144 Posted:
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Drug money.

Who do you think launders it and who contributes?
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Americans, Guns, & Violence
by
Texas Senator John Cornyn
Dear JEANNE,
The press release below is hot off the presses from Texas U.S. Senator John Cornyn in response to the Washington Post's weekend editorial blaming violence and crime in Mexico on U.S. gun laws, gun dealers, and gun policies.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290584/american-guns-and-mexican-violence-sen-john-cornyn
American Guns and Mexican Violence

By Sen. John Cornyn
February 8, 2012 3:50 P.M.

The debate over U.S. gun laws and Mexican drug violence brings to mind Mark Twain's famous quip about lies, damned lies, and statistics. In a recent editorial, the Washington Post blamed American policies for exacerbating the bloodshed, pointing out that "70 to 80 percent of the traceable guns seized in Mexico can be tracked to the United States." The key word there is "traceable." While it's true that most of the traceable guns originated north of the border, those weapons represent a very small portion of total Mexican gun seizures.
According to a Government Accountability Office study based on data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), only 7,200 of the roughly 30,000 guns seized by Mexican authorities in 2008 were sent to ATF for a tracing analysis. Scott Stewart of STRATFOR has noted that just 4,000 of them were found to be traceable. Of the traceable guns, 3,480 were linked back to the United States. In other words, only 12 percent of the guns confiscated in 2008 were positively traced to the United States. In May 2009, the Associated Press reported that the Mexican military had "305,424 confiscated weapons locked in vaults." Because those weapons were not submitted to ATF, their origin is unclear.

We should obviously take reasonable steps to block cartel members and their associates from buying guns in America, while also upholding Second Amendment rights for law-abiding citizens. Unfortunately, the Obama administration's bewildering strategy was to let more than 2,000 weapons "walk" across the border into Mexico as part of "Operation Fast and Furious." The Post editorial characterized this program as a "well-intentioned, misguided response to - and not the cause of - the proliferation of illegal guns in Mexico." That is a rather generous description. The program was disastrously conceived and disastrously executed. Fast and Furious weaponry has been used to commit scores and scores of killings. In December 2010, it was used to murder a brave U.S. Border Patrol agent named Brian Terry.
What about the U.S. assault-weapons ban (AWB), which expired in 2004? Citing estimates from a senior Mexican official, the Post said that the portion of seized guns classified as "assault weapons" has grown from about one-third in 2005 to 60-65 percent today. Yet Mexican drug violence was accelerating before the AWB lapsed - in 2001, then-president Vicente Fox called for "a war without mercy" against the cartels - and President Felipe Calderón's courageous post-2006 crackdown on organized crime has prompted the gangs (1) to fight back against the government and (2) to fight a lot more with each other.

In his 2011 STRATFOR report, Stewart made an important observation about trends in Mexico drug violence: "In recent years the cartels (especially their enforcer groups such as Los Zetas, Gente Nueva and La Linea) have been increasingly using military weaponry instead of sporting arms. A close examination of the arms seized from the enforcer groups and their training camps clearly demonstrates this trend toward military ordnance, including many weapons not readily available in the United States" (emphasis added). "Some of these seizures have included M60 machine guns and hundreds of 40 mm grenades obtained from the military arsenals of countries like Guatemala."
Indeed, wrote Stewart,

Latin America is awash in weapons that were shipped there over the past several decades to supply the various insurgencies and counterinsurgencies in the region. When these military-grade weapons are combined with the rampant corruption in the region, they quickly find their way into the black arms market. The Mexican cartels have supply-chain contacts that help move narcotics to Mexico from South America and they are able to use this same network to obtain guns from the black market in South and Central America and then smuggle them into Mexico.

As Stewart concluded:
Even if it were somehow possible to hermetically seal the U.S.-Mexico border and shut off all the guns coming from the United States, the cartels would still be able to obtain weapons elsewhere - just as narcotics would continue to flow into the United States from other places.

No question, the United States should be doing more to help Mexico stem the rising tide of drug-related violence. But we should also be skeptical of claims that American gun laws are at the root of the problem.


Film at 11... Mellow
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http://m.examiner.com/drug-cartel-in-national/arizona-may-bring-charges-against-eric-holder-over-fast-and-furious?CID=examiner_alerts_article
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/07/calls-for-holder%E2%80%99s-resignation-heating-back-up-as-six-more-congressmen-join-the-surge/
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Like his mentor Janet Reno, I'm deathly afraid we'll be stuck with this A-hole for eight more years. As if it were a super fluid, this administration moves about never adhering itself to any tangible controversy, enabled by media-sychophants and political super-spin doctors. Gonz Gonz
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http://www.ammoland.com/2012/03/20/fast-and-furious-emails-reveal-a-subterfuge-for-gun-control/#axzz1pb694GvD
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http://townhall.com/columnists/katiepavlich/2012/03/21/atf_managers_lawyer_up_slam_gun_laws_and_still_deny_gunwalking/page/2
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