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I don't know about you guys but The Donald is beginning to make sense to me
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bloody spaniard Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 12:27 PM EST
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(bug eyes off)

1. successful businessman who knows how to negotiate (future trade agreements w/countries like China, India...);
2. overall pro-union but knows how to keep costs down so that it's a win-win as opposed to just a win for the unions;
3. anti gay "marriage";
4. not interested in nation- building or foreign intervention (let the Europeans/Asians/Muslims foot the bill & get more involved);
5. acknowledges the muslim terrorist problem (and quiet acceptance by the "peaceful" muslim majority) & how they unabashedly despise us as they take our dollars;
6. wants many if not all military bases abroad closed & have soldiers stationed on our borders (illegals, dug trafficking, etc.);
7. believes in lower taxes;
8. still wants to help the unfortunate, who through no fault of their own, are down on their luck;
9. great taste in beautiful women;
10. wants to see Obama's actual birth certificate- thinks Obama was probably born in USA but may have something to hide (religion: islam?);
11. straight talking;
12. pro life (changed from pro choice/abortion).


Ok, so Trump's a bit arrogant & has a corny combover. Nobody's perfect. ...and his lack of political "experience" BS'ing the voter is a PLUS IMO.
Tonight, he continues his interview on Fox with O'Reilly. I'm beginning to forget Ron Paul...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 12:35 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
(bug eyes off)

1. successful businessman who knows how to negotiate (future trade agreements w/countries like China, India...);
2. overall pro-union but knows how to keep costs down so that it's a win-win as opposed to just a win for the unions;
3. anti gay "marriage";
4. not interested in nation- building or foreign intervention (let the Europeans/Asians/Muslims foot the bill & get more involved);
5. acknowledges the muslim terrorist problem (and quiet acceptance by the "peaceful" muslim majority) & how they unabashedly despise us as they take our dollars;
6. wants many if not all military bases abroad closed & have soldiers stationed on our borders (illegals, dug trafficking, etc.);
7. believes in lower taxes;
8. still wants to help the unfortunate, who through no fault of their own, are down on their luck;
9. great taste in beautiful women;
10. wants to see Obama's actual birth certificate- thinks Obama was probably born in USA but may have something to hide (religion: islam?);
11. straight talking;
12. pro life (changed from pro choice/abortion).


Ok, so Trump's a bit arrogant & has a corny combover. Nobody's perfect. ...and his lack of political "experience" BS'ing the voter is a PLUS IMO.
Tonight, he continues his interview on Fox with O'Reilly. I'm beginning to forget Ron Paul...


Ron Paul is the same man 30 years ago as he is now.

Trump is a fraud. A bankrupt taxpayer suck-off with a big mouth. I wouldn't trust him with a lemonade stand much less a nation or it's military!
fishinguitarman Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 12:48 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Ron Paul is the same man 30 years ago as he is now.

Trump is a fraud. A bankrupt taxpayer suck-off with a big mouth. I wouldn't trust him with a lemonade stand much less a nation or it's military!







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chiefburg Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 12:50 PM EST
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Trump is no more of a fraud than all the politicians we have or had in office. They are all a bunch of whores. I'll take the Donald over John Kerry, Al Gore, and Obama.
bloody spaniard Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:02 PM EST
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chiefburg wrote:
Trump is no more of a fraud than all the politicians we have or had in office. They are all a bunch of whores. I'll take the Donald over John Kerry, Al Gore, and Obama.



(perfectly said, Chief)
Trump used the system to pick himself up and get ahead while offering employment to people in need- which is more than I can say about most bs'ing, never accomplishing anything in life idealists. Oh, and EVERYONE changes their mind about something over time. Everyone. We need more citizen politicians NOT slimy political professionals!!!!

The politicians that we've been electing have brought us to the brink of the precipice where we are now. Trump at least is not afraid to say what everyone- including most Republicans- skirt around with political double speak. Most Democrats & Republicans (including the talking head retreads) are self-serving garbage who are afraid to offend anyone.

The problem with Ron Paul is that I don't think he's electable. He would probably make a good Secretary of State, Commerce, etc. however.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:07 PM EST
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Puh-leeze...he's a bankrupt money grabbing whore!

Saying you'd take Trump over those Dem stooges is like saying you'd nibble on the crap sandwich. Either way you're eating crap!

Why not vote someone in that has credibility and wants to restore America?

Want to see an end to the predatory Federal Reserve?

Want to see the end of Quantitative Easing?

Want to see an end to the central banking thieves?

Then there is ONLY one candidate.

Don't be swayed by imitators or charlatans.
bloody spaniard Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:17 PM EST
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IMHO, you (DMV) and others like-minded are setting yourselves up for a big disappointment come 2012...

Barring his stepping on his dxck, the charismatic, community organizer with socialist leanings that we know as Obama will easily defeat the slump-shoulder, sad sack, decent- minded yet void of any personality known as Ron Paul. That's just they way it is. Perception is 9/10's reality and the American voter has a short memory and wants to be wooed by what they perceive to be a non-political straight shooter. Barring that, they'll settle for any slime who promises to save them from what awaits.

Trump is the best hope we have at the moment. He greatly impressed me on O'Reilly's interview last night. It was a real contrast to Karl Rove the opportunist who followed the interview with his trail of slug juice as he spun & "pc spoke" his advice for Trump should he run. I'm with Dennis Miller on this one. Anyone who speaks about our open borders, Barry's lack of a birth certificate, and the islamic menace, etc. the way Trump does PUBLICLY gets my vote. No more of this "Emperor has no clothes" nonsense... call it the way it is!!
ZRX1200 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:26 PM EST
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I really dislike Trump. He is an opportunist, and like post Bush Mclame I fear he sees this as a easy win. Problem with him is how fake he is. Don't see him as any more electable than Ron Paul, but don't completely disagree with you either Bloody.
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:36 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I really dislike Trump. He is an opportunist, and like post Bush Mclame I fear he sees this as a easy win. Problem with him is how fake he is. Don't see him as any more electable than Ron Paul, but don't completely disagree with you either Bloody.



Check out my edit, brother.
I too, was a Bush supporter- both senior AND junior for the 1st term. They epitomize to me what's wrong with our entrenched, phony, self- enriching political system. I will never forget junior the dimwit when he acclaimed Islam as a "great religion" & then went on to proclaim that the war in Iraq would only cost 50 billion per year which would be paid for with Iraqui oil revenues... Don't get me started. lol
topper7788 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:38 PM EST
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Re7

Unfortunately I agree with you 100% on Obama being re elected... Going to be very hard to beat him no matter how ba he is..

On Trump, don't like the guy period, still a Guliani Republican... Heck he probably can't get the nomination of the party, but is middle enough to actually stand a chance against Obomination...
chiefburg Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:39 PM EST
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Frankly, I don't think any of the parties have a viable candidate I would be happy with. As a conservative I should be supporting Sarah Palin - that ain't going to happen yet because she's too green, etc. Trump? Paul? Clinton? Huckabee? It will be interesting to see what happens.......

I'm not looking forward to 2012 and I think it will be the most critical election we've had in the last 60 years. America is truly on the line with this election.....
Lumpa Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 1:47 PM EST
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I completely agree w/ (almost) everything Trump has said in recent interviews, and would love to sit and herf w/ him for a couple hours. You can just picture him w/ a few drinks in him saying
"lets get some hookers and some blow and just go crazy."

But I completely accept that he is utterly unelectable as President.
Too sleazy (although that may be only perception)
Too plain spoken - doesn't "spin" well.

But Ron Paul?
Please.

Even if I agreed with everything he says, I doubt I could even stand to herf w/ him.
I find him annoying just to look at.
That was even before he started spouting ignorant lunacy about abolishing the Fed.
Audit & overhaul?! Absolutely, it's long overdue.
Abolish?! WTF

He was pretty good back when he played Kazoo on the Flintstones though.
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 2:28 PM EST
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Ignorant lunacy??
What do you call fiat currency?
jackconrad Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 2:30 PM EST
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The Eyes HAVE IT!
jackconrad Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 2:30 PM EST
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Seriously though i'm still gonna win..
bloody spaniard Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 2:43 PM EST
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LOL@Jack- enjoy ole bugeyes while he's still here...

Lumpa wrote:
I completely agree w/ (almost) everything Trump has said in recent interviews, and would love to sit and herf w/ him for a couple hours...

But Ron Paul?
Please.

Even if I agreed with everything he says, I doubt I could even stand to herf w/ him.
I find him annoying just to look at.
That was even before he started spouting ignorant lunacy about abolishing the Fed.
Audit & overhaul?! Absolutely, it's long overdue.
Abolish?! WTF

He was pretty good back when he played Kazoo on the Flintstones though.




LOL- My point again. He's a pruned faced Warren Cristopher w/o the fun personality. You have to be an idealogue not to see that. He's no more electable than a Ross Perot sans cash.
bloody spaniard Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 6:02 PM EST
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Now I remember why I hated political threads.
HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 6:16 PM EST
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Somehow it just seems like there is some sort of Sith Lord type of force that controls everything and ensures that both candidates protect the greater interests and merely humor the people.

Oh wait......us globalists control everything!
bloody spaniard Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 6:20 PM EST
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Do you HAVE to ruin our political fantasy league?
HockeyDad Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 6:26 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Do you HAVE to ruin our political fantasy league?




Well.......YES! That is part of controlling everything. We can admit it and yet the masses are still powerless to do anything.
rfenst Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 9:38 PM EST
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Close circumstances to, albeit much more serious than Bush II's second try.

Obama has 1.5 years to get things looking right. It is his job to lose. If the economy improves and there is perceptible job growth, he wins. If not, he's gone.
wheelrite Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Mar 31 2011, 9:57 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Close circumstances to, albeit much more serious than Bush II's second try.

Obama has 1.5 years to get things looking right. It is his job to lose. If the economy improves and there is perceptible job growth, he wins. If not, he's gone.


dream on..Barry is finished.He's an embarassment...

One thing about Trump,

He has the balls to call it the way ALL of us see it.He's not a ****...
bloody spaniard Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 9:05 AM EST
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In all likelihood, the Republicans will put up another McLame (thanks ZRX) retread or some other Karl Rove approved loser & Obama will squeak in again. The economy is a non-issue IMO. If it improves Obama wins. If it worsens, the desperate folk will want more Government help & he'll still win.

Shame of it is that Trump will probably opt out to watch from the sidelines. With all his flaws, he is probably one of the few who has a true grasp (and vested interest) of how our system works & how to manipulate it to serve the best interest of all Americans not just the rich or foreign interests.

We get the Government we deserve. Like HD said, we're being manipulated to make it appear as though we have real choices when in actuality we're all Italian dancing monkees.
Papachristou Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 9:14 AM EST
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as much as i like ron paul, he has no chance of winning, he doesnt have the charisma or name plus he actually wants to change things which means the real people running the show wont allow him to be elected. if anyone is going to beat obama, he will have to be charismatic and have a well known name. i hate to say it but trump has the best shot because of his perceived business sense. (even if he is a bankrupt, thieving whore like the rest of washington)
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 9:15 AM EST
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I would like to see him tell BHO "you're fired".
Papachristou Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 9:26 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I would like to see him tell BHO "you're fired".


lmfao, that would be hiliarous. instead of the traditional respect to the outgoing prez..... Trump looks at him and says America fired you.... Applause

i would like bho to go just so these crazies in the south would stop running around saying he is the antichrist. annoying!
Stinkdyr Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 9:30 AM EST
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Vote Libertarian.


I have been doing so for 20 years.

Boo hoo!
HockeyDad Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 9:58 AM EST
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Leeme know how that 20 years of Libertarian voting has worked out for you.

Scoreboard, bitches.
Papachristou Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 11:09 AM EST
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20 years of wasting votes im sad to say. im not sure if they really count anyway. oh wait, they dont!
teedubbya Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 11:13 AM EST
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WWWJD?

What Would Weezie Jefferson Do?
bloody spaniard Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 11:29 AM EST
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Mr. Bentley was Weezie's bitch. Weezie had more male hormone than Bentley & Jefferson put together.
Stinkdyr Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Apr 1 2011, 11:50 AM EST
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Papachristou wrote:
20 years of wasting votes im sad to say. im not sure if they really count anyway. oh wait, they dont!



Yah you're right!!

I really wish I had voted for the 2 failed socialist Parties!


LOL
HockeyDad Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Apr 2 2011, 6:29 AM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Yah you're right!!

I really wish I had voted for the 2 failed socialist Parties!


LOL




They are not failed as long as they are in control. Globalist candidates are undefeated.
fiddler898 Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Apr 2 2011, 7:53 AM EST
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I think #21 nailed it: it will always be the economy, as wallet issues trump (sorry) ideology every time. IMHO, of course.
HockeyDad Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Apr 2 2011, 8:04 AM EST
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The economy is naturally self-healing and Obama is it a good spot to be a beneficiary.

The Obama Cone Of Protection shall continue for four more years.
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#36 Posted: Sat, Apr 2 2011, 8:08 PM EST
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Ron Paul that thought 9/11 was an inside job? If it was, then he won't get a vote from me. But don't hesitate to weigh in on me.Gonz
bloody spaniard Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Apr 3 2011, 8:53 AM EST
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MCAddict wrote:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Ron Paul that thought 9/11 was an inside job? If it was, then he won't get a vote from me. But don't hesitate to weigh in on me.Gonz



Excellent point. I seemed to recall something similar to that in addition to this claim that 67% of the jail population which is black is due to discrimination (look it up). He appears to have recanted & changed his mind on 9/11 in the last several years. Here's what he said at the South Carolina debates:


JANUARY 10, 2008: Ron Paul denounces 9/11 truth during nationally televised presidential debate in South Carolina.

Question: Many of your supporters call themselves ‘9/11 Truthers’. They believe that the U.S. government was in some way complicit with the 9/11 attacks or covered it up. Are you tonight prepared to either embrace that rhetoric or ask those supporters to abandon it, or divorce themselves from your candidacy?

Ron Paul: Well, I can’t tell people what to do, but I’ve abandoned those viewpoints, I don’t believe that, and that’s all...



...and some Ron Paul supporters have issues with Trump because he changed his views on matters like abortion (became pro-life).
Stinkdyr Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Apr 6 2011, 8:11 AM EST
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FREEDOM..........whatta radical concept.

Herfing
bloody spaniard Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Apr 6 2011, 8:53 AM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
FREEDOM..........whatta radical concept.

Herfing



We'll always have our memories. fog
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#40 Posted: Wed, Apr 6 2011, 10:18 AM EST
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bloody spaniard Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Apr 6 2011, 10:29 AM EST
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You were already elected cbid dog catcher! Watchoo want now? Emperor of da hood?Frying pan
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#42 Posted: Wed, Apr 6 2011, 10:31 AM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
You were already elected cbid dog catcher! Frying pan




Stay away from my puppy-dog you BASSARD!!!! ram27bat
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