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JadeRose Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 9:54 AM EST
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/27/obama.birth.certificate/index.html?hpt=C1


There ya go, Birthers.
Nicar Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:01 AM EST
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So it took this long to finally get a legit fake birth certificate?

This just raises more questions, doesn't prove anything. I think you can get one of those down by the Mexican border too. Ask for Pepe Luis de La Sol de la Playa Ruiz, he runs a 2 for 1 special.. get 2 fake docs for the price of 1
FuzzNJ Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:05 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
So it took this long to finally get a legit fake birth certificate?

This just raises more questions, doesn't prove anything. I think you can get one of those down by the Mexican border too. Ask for Pepe Luis de La Sol de la Playa Ruiz, he runs a 2 for 1 special.. get 2 fake docs for the price of 1


Yup, it's a total scam. He's a usurper and should be in jail, not the White House. The conspiracy goes way back.

Obama had a rich Saudi guy with terrorist connections backing him and faked the entire thing. He also got him into Harvard and is hiding his horrible grades for him. He know someday he would become President and destroy America so that the liberals and the muslims could create a caliphate. I can't believe the right figured this out.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:12 AM EST
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ALL HAIL DONALD TRUMP!!!
Stinkdyr Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:15 AM EST
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The TRUMP, the HAIR !!


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tweoijfoi Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:23 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
So it took this long to finally get a legit fake birth certificate?

This just raises more questions, doesn't prove anything. I think you can get one of those down by the Mexican border too. Ask for Pepe Luis de La Sol de la Playa Ruiz, he runs a 2 for 1 special.. get 2 fake docs for the price of 1


You just can't be pleased can you?

The document has been on file in HI... hey maybe the Hawaiian government is in on it too. Maybe everyone but the birthers are in on it.
Nicar Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:44 AM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
You just can't be pleased can you?

The document has been on file in HI... hey maybe the Hawaiian government is in on it too. Maybe everyone but the birthers are in on it.


When all these politicians and lobbyists like to bend and avoid and only look into laws that benefit them? I mean, how hard is it to produce when first asked. I think for school and college I had to use a copy of my birth certificate. Why should the President cry about producing his if his state doesn't require it? When the Constitution requires that the President be a natural US Citizen?

Would have been pleased if it was produced right away. After that, it's kind of a mute point. Laws dont apply to lots of the politicians, we know this because they are afraid to impeach a president when there is evidence, and the allow them to do shady activities to avoid taxes. They dont let them go after the real heart of the issues of the country.

I am afraid of what the US will be like in 20 years. I am not blind as to what's going on. I can also give a rats azz about democrat or republican because it is so much in the middle of the world spectrum of politics. They are both apple.... ones a granny smith and one is a red delicious.

Flame away... my mind goes different directions so I dont know if this is rambles, or points or if it makes sense. This whole birth certificate issue has been BS and handled like a whiny bitch would handle it. Not like someone that is willing to step forward, assume responsibility and set an example. It smells as one that says.. well, I dont have to do it cause i'm not required to and if you dont believe me, well then screw you.
FuzzNJ Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:46 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
When all these politicians and lobbyists like to bend and avoid and only look into laws that benefit them? I mean, how hard is it to produce when first asked. I think for school and college I had to use a copy of my birth certificate. Why should the President cry about producing his if his state doesn't require it? When the Constitution requires that the President be a natural US Citizen?

Would have been pleased if it was produced right away. After that, it's kind of a mute point. Laws dont apply to lots of the politicians, we know this because they are afraid to impeach a president when there is evidence, and the allow them to do shady activities to avoid taxes. They dont let them go after the real heart of the issues of the country.

I am afraid of what the US will be like in 20 years. I am not blind as to what's going on. I can also give a rats azz about democrat or republican because it is so much in the middle of the world spectrum of politics. They are both apple.... ones a granny smith and one is a red delicious.

Flame away... my mind goes different directions so I dont know if this is rambles, or points or if it makes sense. This whole birth certificate issue has been BS and handled like a whiny bitch would handle it. Not like someone that is willing to step forward, assume responsibility and set an example. It smells as one that says.. well, I dont have to do it cause i'm not required to and if you dont believe me, well then screw you.


He did produce it. It was an official document from the state that everyone who requests a copy gets. Holy crap.
jackconrad Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 10:47 AM EST
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(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") FAKE!
Nicar Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:02 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
He did produce it. It was an official document from the state that everyone who requests a copy gets. Holy crap.



Hit a nerve? Can I type you up a short form certificate? I dont even have to sign it!
hoyodude Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:06 AM EST
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wow....just,wow...this ridiculous conversation is why I have been staying away from this forum.
Nicar Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:17 AM EST
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hoyodude wrote:
wow....just,wow...this ridiculous conversation is why I have been staying away from this forum.


hoyo.. you know it's fun.. that's why you keep reading it...

I can't believe I said something here. I'm no copy and paste type person.. and could care less about proven my opinions, so why should I comment here where others want proof and such...

Oh yeah.. i like to be sarcastic and such
jackconrad Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:18 AM EST
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Not really a coversation just a comedy routine..
elk hunter Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:18 AM EST
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While I am not a fan of Obama's, he has produced the doc.... Please, let's move on!!!!
FuzzNJ Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:20 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Hit a nerve? Can I type you up a short form certificate? I dont even have to sign it!


No nerve, it just shows the ignorance of the birthers. I think it's great actually. I hope they keep it up.

CNN just did a report where they found a guy listed in the same paper as Obama born 13 hours earlier or later, can't remember. They went with him as he asked for a copy of his birth certificate. He got the same damn form as Obama released initially.
Nicar Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:21 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
While I am not a fan of Obama's, he has produced the doc.... Please, let's move on!!!!


Move on? To what? With a dim look on start of the next NFL season, I need to get versed in the political bs!
leonardo Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:24 AM EST
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Got to give The Donald credit, he has done what the Clintons, Palin, Bachman, Tea Party (or baggers, so I don't offend any progressive liberals), and many others could not get done. I wonder what's next, very entertaining. He even got the President to do a press conference, good stuff!
Kawak Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:28 AM EST
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He now has my vote in 2012!!!
Stinkdyr Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 11:46 AM EST
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maybe we can elect a real American next time.
you know, one who has worked a real job in the private sector before, and paid real taxes, and not earned his living at the public union/politician welfare trough.

just a radical idea, I know.

Herfing
dpnewell Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:01 PM EST
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Yet he spent millions in legal fees to prevent it’s release. Is that the epitome of stupidity? Shouldn’t surprise me thought, considering what he has done to the country over the past couple years.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:17 PM EST
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I heard he was gonna produce Bin Laden tomorrow.... Mellow
FuzzNJ Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:19 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Yet he spent millions in legal fees to prevent it’s release. Is that the epitome of stupidity?


Another stupid lie forced on the country by birthers. You know since the end of the election McCain has spent like 1 1/2 million dollars on legal fees? What's he hiding?!?!?!

Legal fees by campaigns are incurred, even by Obama. Not all are going to this issue. A lot of these suits, by that crazy Russian lady, are even being handled by the Justice Department where no legal fees are even due.

Liar
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:22 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard he was gonna produce Bin Laden tomorrow.... Mellow

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DrMaddVibe Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:26 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
maybe we can elect a real American next time.
you know, one who has worked a real job in the private sector before, and paid real taxes, and not earned his living at the public union/politician welfare trough.

just a radical idea, I know.

Herfing



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DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:30 PM EST
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I heard MO was gonna show her tits Friday.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:37 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard MO was gonna show her tits Friday.... Mellow



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FuzzNJ Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 12:53 PM EST
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The ‘birther’ issue is coded racism

Then there is the ‘birther’ issue. I regard this as coded racism, frankly. I don’t think there’s any other word for it.

For goodness' sake, George Stephanopoulos displayed Obama's Certificate of Live Birth on network TV and this rumor still doesn't die. Put it this way: If the President was a white man named John Smith with the other background issues being the same - foreign student father, mother in Hawaii, etc. - would there be any of these dark insinuations? Trump should be ashamed of himself. But then, I suppose, he wouldn't be Donald Trump.

I don’t think that the 'birther' issue the real appeal of Trump, anyway. It has just helped Trump get free media and rise up in the polls. His real appeal is the fantasy that he can somehow get us out of the mess we’re in.

The reality, however, is that only we can get us out of the mess we’re in.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/22/fareed-zakaria-on-the-donald-trump-fantasy/
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:07 PM EST
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Kenyan is a race..?? Huh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:16 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Kenyan is a race..?? Huh



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ZRX1200 Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:23 PM EST
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$25 a seat...........BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!!! Fuzz, any chance to play the race card eh?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:25 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
$25 a seat...........BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!!!



Frying pan
Double D Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:29 PM EST
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Forgery??

Excerpt...

• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513

DD™

P.S. And where is the official seal??
DrMaddVibe Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:39 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Fuzz, any chance to play the race card eh?



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/27/whoopi_on_race_card_im_playing_the_damn_card_now.html

You ever see Whoopi and Fuzz in the same room?

Yeah.Frying pan
chiefburg Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 1:53 PM EST
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Frankly, I didn't suspect Obama was a non-U.S. citizen. I did have a hard time understanding why he just didn't do this years ago and put it to bed rather than cause all this turmoil, hate, and discontent.

And, I don't think this is truly a race issue - it's a citizenship issue. If Bush or anyone else's citizenship was in question, the opposing party (Dems or Reps) would have thrown them under the bus. Each party always looks for ways to discredit the opponent.

If it were me, I would have pulled the birth certificate 2+ years ago and said "Here. Shut your mouths and let's focus on real issues." It's not a matter of whether the President agrees or disagrees - it's putting something so simple to bed right away rather than let it fester and divide the country for two years. I'm not a birther myself, but this issue has drawn the focus away from real issues - maybe that was Obama's goal in the first place. The longer he can keep people focused on something silly, the longer it takes them to realize that shenanigans are occuring.......

Just a thought....
DrafterX Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 2:32 PM EST
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Gotta agree with the Chief here... doesn't make any sense to keep the nation divided over this for so long....
Papachristou Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 2:34 PM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
While I am not a fan of Obama's, he has produced the doc.... Please, let's move on!!!!


thank you! it is an annoyance that he didnt do it in the very beginning but dayum i am tired of hearing about it. Lets do something productive now like Herfing or Beer
dpnewell Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 2:46 PM EST
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Here we go. I was wondering how long it was going to take Fuzz to play the race card. I guess it makes him feel superior.
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#38 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 2:49 PM EST
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• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

its not that seemless, you can easily see the line/color difference

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

uh, easy, the 4th was a friday. so monday there was a backlog, it didnt get done till tuesday. is this unusual? probably not

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

nothing, im sure this is on lots of documents from the 60s, i doubt many people had bics then, and to help you, i googled it. BICs were released in the USA in 1960.

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

give me a break. the guy died 8 years ago at a ripe old age, there is nothing convenient about that

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

ugh, please just shutup. birthers are just getting crazy on this

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

who cares

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

it appears to me to be ukhlee why doesnt someone just find out who the registar was in 1961 and see what his name is? cant be that hard. dont forget this is hawaii and not everyone has names like smith, johnson etc


PLEASE JUST LET THIS GO AWAY!
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#39 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 3:14 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
maybe we can elect a real American next time.
you know, one who has worked a real job in the private sector before, and paid real taxes, and not earned his living at the public union/politician welfare trough.

just a radical idea, I know.

Herfing




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tweoijfoi Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 3:19 PM EST
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Papachristou wrote:
• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

its not that seemless, you can easily see the line/color difference

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

uh, easy, the 4th was a friday. so monday there was a backlog, it didnt get done till tuesday. is this unusual? probably not

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

nothing, im sure this is on lots of documents from the 60s, i doubt many people had bics then, and to help you, i googled it. BICs were released in the USA in 1960.

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

give me a break. the guy died 8 years ago at a ripe old age, there is nothing convenient about that

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

ugh, please just shutup. birthers are just getting crazy on this

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

who cares

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

it appears to me to be ukhlee why doesnt someone just find out who the registar was in 1961 and see what his name is? cant be that hard. dont forget this is hawaii and not everyone has names like smith, johnson etc


PLEASE JUST LET THIS GO AWAY!


Amen. And I love how half the "points" use the word "mysterious" ... oh yeah it is SUCH a mystery. Like a whodunnit.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 3:35 PM EST
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IT'S NOTHING MORE THEN PURE AND SIMPLE RACISM, STILL HERE
AS IT WILL ALWAYS BE, FUELED BY IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO ARE
SO LACKING IN THEMSELVES, THEY NEED TO BLAME A GROUP OF
OTHERS FOR THEIR LACK OF ABILITY TO SUCCEED AT LIFE.
DrafterX Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 3:39 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
FOR THEIR LACK OF ABILITY TO SUCCEED AT LIFE.





someone around here not able to succeed at life..?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 3:57 PM EST
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Think Think
so, Obama's grandmother was a big fat liar huh.... Mellow
borndead1 Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 3:58 PM EST
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There is a certain amount of racism, no doubt, but most of it is just the same old fake left/right divide and conquer stuff that keeps people ignorant and occupied.

Why didn't Obama put this whole thing to rest sooner? Because it gives people something to fight about! You know, the old "us vs. them", liberal vs. conservative BS that people keep swallowing year after year, election after election.
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#45 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 4:28 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
There is a certain amount of racism, no doubt, but most of it is just the same old fake left/right divide and conquer stuff that keeps people ignorant and occupied.

Why didn't Obama put this whole thing to rest sooner? Because it gives people something to fight about! You know, the old "us vs. them", liberal vs. conservative BS that people keep swallowing year after year, election after election.

+1 (unfortunately)......
JadeRose Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 4:43 PM EST
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Too easy













lulz
FuzzNJ Offline
#47 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 4:44 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
$25 a seat...........BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!!! Fuzz, any chance to play the race card eh?


Race card? Hardly. Fareed called it like he sees it, and i agree.

Michael Steele, Clarence Thomas and now Herman Cain all 'played the race card', but they are on the right.
FuzzNJ Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 4:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Think Think
so, Obama's grandmother was a big fat liar huh.... Mellow


No, she was mistranslated and it was corrected during the interview, but of course, it was jumped on by the birthers and the story was spread far and wide.
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#49 Posted: Wed, Apr 27 2011, 4:46 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Amen. And I love how half the "points" use the word "mysterious" ... oh yeah it is SUCH a mystery. Like a whodunnit.


Que the scary music.
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