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DrMaddVibe Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 10:52 AM EST
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Katie Couric Departs CBS Evening News Desk

Katie Couric has announced her departure from the anchor desk of the CBS Evening News, thus ending a 5-year-long experiment of whether someone best known for fluff interviews could fill Walter Cronkite's chair.

The answer has been, for quite some time, "no." Now Couric is moving on to engage in what she calls "multi dimensional story telling." (WTF??? I thought that's what she had been doing all along!!!)
The sad truth is that Couric never had the gravitas, that air of authority that was necessary to deliver the news, especially in the increasingly obsolete evening news format. At one time, before cable news and the Internet brought about access to the news 24/7, watching the evening news was as much of a ritual of life as working 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and eating dinner around the table with the wife and kids.

Walter Cronkite was the very model of a classic news anchor during the heyday of the CBS Evening News. Cronkite, with his grandfatherly mien and his dry, Midwestern delivery, was the voice of the news for 20 years. His name is forever associated with some of the great news stories of the era, including the Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, the Apollo Moon landings, and Watergate. Cronkite was forced out in 1981 just shy of his 65th birthday under a then mandatory retirement policy at CBS.

Cronkite was followed by Dan Rather, a long time CBS News correspondent who had worked on the CBS newsmagazine show "60 Minutes." Whereas Cronkite was once "the most trusted man in America," Rather became known as the most irritating and petulant man in America. During the Rather era, the CBS Evening News suffered declining ratings. At one point, in 1987, Rather stomped off the air in a huff over a sports event cutting into his time on the air, leaving six minutes of dead air. A few months later, Rather conducted a painfully contentious interview with then Vice President George H. W. Bush in which he turned out to be the loser.

After a two-year experiment that paired Rather with Connie Chung, Rather's career went into a death spiral over a story in 2004 over then President George W. Bush's Air National Guard service that turned out to have been based on forged documents. Rather was forced out on the anchor chair within months of the story running.

Couric was chosen after Bob Schieffer, a CBS News reporter who at least had the air of venerable wisdom that Cronkite enjoyed, as an effort to reinvent the evening news with a younger style. Scott Pelley is said to be in the running to replace Couric.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110427/en_ac/8377201_katie_couric_departs_cbs_evening_news_desk_1




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bloody spaniard Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 10:58 AM EST
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I think she was never the same after her brain was bruised during the televised colonoscopy..
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#3 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 12:01 PM EST
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cacman Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 12:08 PM EST
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Another over-paid beotch looking for her own show, and network.
JadeRose Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 12:44 PM EST
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Do people still watch the evening news? It's been years since I have.
surfish1961 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:09 PM EST
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I heard Charlie Sheen is her replacement.
bloody spaniard Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:16 PM EST
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Little known fact- Couric & Jim Morrison grew up relatively close to each other in northern Virginia. (yawn)
bloody spaniard Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:24 PM EST
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Btw, do marginal news' readers belong on the political board???
Jus' aksin' is all.Think
tweoijfoi Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:27 PM EST
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I loved when Couric asked Palin what newspapers or magazines she read and Palin couldn't name a single one.
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#10 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:36 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
I loved when Couric asked Palin what newspapers or magazines she read and Palin couldn't name a single one.

Its because she likes the pictures
bloody spaniard Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:43 PM EST
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Yep (stretching), the crafty one got Palin alright (burp).
It was like Mini Me vs. Webster-- a mini mental battle of the ages between two brainiacs.
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#12 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 1:46 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
I loved when Couric asked Palin what newspapers or magazines she read and Palin couldn't name a single one.




she prolly gets all her info and stuff off the internets like I do..... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 2:09 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Btw, do marginal news' readers belong on the political board???
Jus' aksin' is all.Think



You didn't click on the link...did ya?

That's okay because tweoijfoi didn't either!


LOLZ!!!!
bloody spaniard Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 2:19 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You didn't click on the link...did ya?

That's okay because tweoijfoi didn't either!

LOLZ!!!!



Ya got me agin, dintcha? Don't you get tired of pickin' on me?! BastidFrying pan
What link?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 2:49 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Frying pan
What link?



The one in the original post!




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Rick's head will explode in....3....2....1
tweoijfoi Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 3:19 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You didn't click on the link...did ya?

That's okay because tweoijfoi didn't either!


LOLZ!!!!


Haha no I did not. In my defense it's not a link and copying and pasting is alot of effort d'oh!
tweoijfoi Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 3:20 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
she prolly gets all her info and stuff off the internets like I do..... Mellow


Maybe. Or TV, or something. I wouldn't hold it against her if she didn't actually read newspapers--its a dying format--just her answer of "any... all of them." was hillarious.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 3:21 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Haha no I did not. In my defense it's not a link and copying and pasting is alot of effort d'oh!



C'mon...do Rick proud and carry on the tradition!

Ctrl + C....Ctrl + V...LOLZ!!!
tweoijfoi Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 4:47 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
C'mon...do Rick proud and carry on the tradition!

Ctrl + C....Ctrl + V...LOLZ!!!


Haha okay okay I copy, I pasted, I enjoyed. Hahaha. Sarcasm fits her well.
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#20 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 6:17 PM EST
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How will we ever weigh Bono now?
wheelrite Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 7:34 PM EST
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CBS fired Couric because she has odor issues down south...
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#22 Posted: Thu, Apr 28 2011, 8:32 PM EST
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na na nah-na nah-na hey heeeey good byeeeee
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Apr 29 2011, 5:45 AM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Haha okay okay I copy, I pasted, I enjoyed. Hahaha. Sarcasm fits her well.




ThumpUp

She's deserving of that!
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#24 Posted: Fri, Apr 29 2011, 8:13 AM EST
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Couric = naive tool of the illiberal left.


next!

Applause
snowwolf777 Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Apr 30 2011, 1:18 PM EST
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Katie Couric was readin' the news every night, eh?

Hmm. Well I'll be damned.

Whistle
rfenst Online
#26 Posted: Sat, Apr 30 2011, 4:27 PM EST
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I never really cared for her as an evening broadcaster, but...

I just don't get why some people are so amped-up over this. Doesn't seem like any of you were watching her broadcasts at all. It's not like she will be replaced by someone you will like. And, even if you did like her replacement, you wouldn't watch that network's news anyway...
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#27 Posted: Sat, Apr 30 2011, 6:52 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I never really cared for her as an evening broadcaster, but...

I just don't get why some people are so amped-up over this. Doesn't seem like any of you were watching her broadcasts at all. It's not like she will be replaced by someone you will like. And, even if you did like her replacement, you wouldn't watch that network's news anyway...



You're right. They could replace her with Bozo the Clown and I don't think you'd see much a difference. In quality or rating share.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Apr 30 2011, 7:58 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I never really cared for her as an evening broadcaster, but...

I just don't get why some people are so amped-up over this. Doesn't seem like any of you were watching her broadcasts at all. It's not like she will be replaced by someone you will like. And, even if you did like her replacement, you wouldn't watch that network's news anyway...


Robert. it's more to me about the death of an agenda.

Good riddance.

The trash goes out to the curb.
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#29 Posted: Sat, Apr 30 2011, 11:56 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Robert. it's more to me about the death of an agenda.

Good riddance.

The trash goes out to the curb.


Exactly what agenda are you referring to? Evening news-lite that often has some minimal entertainment value for some people?

I know you disagree with what you believe her personal politics to be, but so what. If some people enjoy watching her, why is it so important to those who don't watch her to see her gone?

What is it about her that has been so bad or so evil to provoke hatred and anger?
tweoijfoi Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 1:18 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Exactly what agenda are you referring to? Evening news-lite that often has some minimal entertainment value for some people?

I know you disagree with what you believe her personal politics to be, but so what. If some people enjoy watching her, why is it so important to those who don't watch her to see her gone?

What is it about her that has been so bad or so evil to provoke hatred and anger?


Obviously she is liberal... therefore to be loathed and destroyed. Don't you get it?

/sarcasm
JadeRose Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 12:07 PM EST
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I'm with Robert on this one. Don't like it...don't watch it. Who cares what her "perceived" agenda is? Not sure where all the hatred and the fury is coming from. As I said above...Who the hell watches the Evening News anymore?
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#32 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 12:17 PM EST
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Any time an extremist for either side is brought down, it is a time for this country to rejoice.
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#33 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 12:45 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Any time an extremist for either side is brought down, it is a time for this country to rejoice.


I thought she was a moderately cute, perky, fun perona on the Today Show. I knew from the outset that she wouldn't ever make it as a news anchor.

what do you mean by "extremist"?
How is she one?
tweoijfoi Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 12:57 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I thought she was a moderately cute, perky, fun perona on the Today Show. I knew from the outset that she wouldn't ever make it as a news anchor.

what do you mean by "extremist"?
How is she one?


Seconded. I've never heard her called "extremist" before, but I don't watch the program so I can't say.
bloody spaniard Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 1:38 PM EST
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Robert, you remind me of my son. He asks the darnest questions as well. Don't how to begin w/o a drink and cigar in hand... Why is the sky blue, dad? ...and yes, I know the answer to that. LOL

Suffice to say that if you can't recognize her extreme left wing views as extremist, you is one.
Same thing with followers of Rush, Soros, etc.
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#36 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 1:44 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:

Suffice to say that if you can't recognize her extreme left wing views as extremist, you is one.


That's a poor philosophy. I could say the same about anyone and anything. Here, let me make up something... "if you don't think George Bush is an alien from space, then YOU are an alien from space." Now refute that. Oh you want ME to prove it? Yeah, that's something an alien would say.

Provide proof of some sort, or an article supporting your assertion and maybe I'll change my mind about her being an "extremist." I think she is left-leaning, but I don't see any evidence of her falling over so to speak.
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#37 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 1:53 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
That's a poor philosophy. I could say the same about anyone and anything. Here, let me make up something... "if you don't think George Bush is an alien from space, then YOU are an alien from space." Now refute that. Oh you want ME to prove it? Yeah, that's something an alien would say.

Provide proof of some sort, or an article supporting your assertion and maybe I'll change my mind about her being an "extremist." I think she is left-leaning, but I don't see any evidence of her falling over so to speak.




George Bush hasn't done or said anything to prove he isn't an alien from outer space.
Couric opens her mouth & continually confirms what she is. I don't believe she holds ANY belief that is conservative.
As I said, if you don't see the obvious, it's because you've adapted it for your own.
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#38 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 1:55 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
George Bush hasn't done or said anything to prove he isn't an alien from outer space.
Couric opens her mouth & continually confirms what she is. I don't believe she holds ANY belief that is conservative.
As I said, if you don't see the obvious, it's because you've adapted it for your own.


Tell me some of her extremist views.
bloody spaniard Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 2:15 PM EST
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She has none. You win. She's as mainstream and middle of the road as Cronkite reporting on the "disastrous" Tet offensive which as it later turned out was a total catastrophe for the invading North Vietnamese.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. I wouldn't know where to begin. (seriously)

I'll let someone with more ardor & better memory for Couric's malapropisms and (intentional?) inaccuracies take up the flag and answer your (and Robert's question). All I know is that when I watched her twaddling on the Today show or interviewing the equally provincial Palin, I would just shrug my shoulders in disbelief as she let her left wing extremism (IMO) chart the course. She doesn't have a conservative nor middle of the road bone in her diminutive body. Does she?
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#40 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 2:40 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
She has none. You win. She's as mainstream and middle of the road as Cronkite reporting on the "disastrous" Tet offensive which as it later turned out was a total catastrophe for the invading North Vietnamese.


Man you go from one extreme to the other. Maybe you are the extremist :-"

I never said she was unbiased. I said she was left leaning. And no I don't think she is journalist in the true sense of the word. There are only a handful of those left on TV anymore--the rest are entertainers. That is a big problem by the way. That entertainment can be labeled, marketed, and delivered as authentic news. It's causing greater polarization and it's only hurting America. Now we have the right calling the left extremist (cough cough), the left calling the right extremist (I just did it a paragraph ago Angel ) and really no one wins by this.

By the way, if you ever want to argue about her liberal tilt, here's a great(ish) site:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/projects/couric/welcome.asp
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#41 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 2:42 PM EST
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Oh and I'm not really a lefty. In fact, most people do not really follow the complete dogma of their self-proclaimed "side", but something in the middle.
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#42 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 3:14 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:


I never said she was unbiased. I said she was left leaning. And no I don't think she is journalist in the true sense of the word.




So now we're down to arguing whether she's extremist or just a leftist.

Semantics.
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#43 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 3:21 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
So now we're down to arguing whether she's extremist or just a leftist.

Semantics.


Drool
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#44 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 9:09 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Robert, you remind me of my son. He asks the darnest questions as well. Don't how to begin w/o a drink and cigar in hand... Why is the sky blue, dad? ...and yes, I know the answer to that. LOL

Suffice to say that if you can't recognize her extreme left wing views as extremist, you is one.
Same thing with followers of Rush, Soros, etc.



It sure seems like you think I asked a childish question, which is so meaningless on a topical level and so very complex in reality, that I probably wouldn't understand it anyway- so I should just be shooed-away with a simple, incomplete answer? And, yet, at the same time I personify that answer but you (and I) don't even really know what it is?

I am not feigning ignorance here about the semantics of the political spectrum and, I am not trying to flame or pick a fight here with you or anyone else, but come on- You have got to be kidding me!!!

As pointed out above in another post, your reply is the logic equivalence of: "If you don't know what X is, then you are an X". Perhaps the example given above was not absurd enough to make the point, so here is another example:

Bloody does not know the definition of a "retard", therefore Bloody is a "retard".

But, everyone who knows you knows: 1) that statement cannot possibly be true; and 2) that statement does not explain the definition of the term "retard"...

I am truly serious what the semantic definition(s) of left-wing extremism are here on CBid. I am also desirous of some solid examples of what Couric has done that is so worthy of being blasted like she has been here. I know she is a public figure and that she has put herself out there for criticism, but I truly don't understand the level of anger, if not hatred towards her.

So once again, for anyone who will provide a direct answer: What does "left-wing extremist" mean? Is there a "litmus test" definition? Or, is it more like a syndrome with a "basket" of indicators? How can I asses exactly where Couric fits in on the spectrum? How can I determine the label that applies to where I fit in on the spectrum?




(I just want to try to understand where some people hear on CBid are really coming from on this thread.)
wheelrite Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 9:13 PM EST
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robert,

it's easy...

If you want a handout and won't take any work available you're a commie...
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#46 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 9:19 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
robert,

it's easy...

If you want a handout and won't take any work available you're a commie...


Actually on these forums its easier than that...

If you are very liberal, you are Stalin himself
If you are left-leaning, you are a lefty extremist
If you are moderate, you are a liberal
If you are conservative, you are moderate
If you think everything listed above is true, then you are a real conservative Drool

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#47 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 9:32 PM EST
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Actually on these forums its easier than that...

If you are very liberal, you are Stalin himself
If you are left-leaning, you are a lefty extremist
If you are moderate, you are a liberal
If you are conservative, you are moderate
If you think everything listed above is true, then you are a real conservative Drool



Moderates are weak and stupid..

There really is no gray area...

either you are for limited gov't and rugged individualism or you are a committed lefty ,socialist.lib.

sounds simplistic,but it's true...
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#48 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:57 PM EST
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I think that there's hyperbole on both sides.

And Robert if I didn't understand what defined a "retard" as a "retard" then perhaps I AM unabashedly a "retard". No shame in that.
However what I HAVE determined is that one who doesn't see the peculiarities of extremism because they accept them as the norm is most likely in agreement with them.

To call a liberal the epitome of Stalin is silly but that is not to say that the liberal doesn't have more in common with said dictator than a conservative would. It's a matter of degrees. I happen to believe that there are many liberals like Couric who excuse extremism & that in itself makes them extremists.
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#49 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 11:33 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I think that there's hyperbole on both sides.

And Robert if I didn't understand what defined a "retard" as a "retard" then perhaps I AM unabashedly a "retard". No shame in that.
However what I HAVE determined is that one who doesn't see the peculiarities of extremism because they accept them as the norm is most likely in agreement with them.

To call a liberal the epitome of Stalin is silly but that is not to say that the liberal doesn't have more in common with said dictator than a conservative would. It's a matter of degrees. I happen to believe that there are many liberals like Couric who excuse extremism & that in itself makes them extremists.



Whatever.
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#50 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 5:03 AM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I think that there's hyperbole on both sides.


At least we agree on that.

bloody spaniard wrote:

However what I HAVE determined is that one who doesn't see the peculiarities of extremism because they accept them as the norm is most likely in agreement with them.


You keep saying that because we don't know that Couric is an extremist we are accepting whatever ideologies that she may have, and therefore are also extremists. I don't know what extremist views Couric has because I don't know what views (in general) she has. I've tried to get that through to you but you manage to step around it. I've seen maybe a grand total of 1 to 2 hours of Couric clips and interviews. Most of them were the Palin interviews. I don't know what the hell she has been saying or doing besides that. From the clips I've seen, she is left leaning. What have you seen that makes you label her extreme? You assume that because I haven't seen what you've seen of her that I agree with everything you've seen of her.

It's a game logical twister you're playing and I don't think you even know it.

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