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CigarSmoker Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 9:59 PM EST
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give Obama credit for killing Bin Laden??
wheelrite Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:00 PM EST
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CigarSmoker wrote:
give Obama credit for killing Bin Laden??


no...

what did he do ??
CigarSmoker Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:01 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
no...

what did he do ??


More then Bush..
wheelrite Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:04 PM EST
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CigarSmoker wrote:
More then Bush..



enumerate,please...




This changes nothing.Osama is the Joe Biden of the Murdering Muslims of today..
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:06 PM EST
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Get real. Presidents at most direct directives and ROE to SecD. I give him credit for excellent timing.
dubleuhb Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:08 PM EST
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I would imagine if it was one of our fine servicemen that got the job done they are probably trying to figure out if any rules of the Geneva Convention were violated, thats how they roll
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:13 PM EST
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Hey OP.
How many POTUS dies in the effort to kill OBL?
thanks for showing us at least "1 crazy lefty" that can't give the Troops any credit for a major accomplishments that they have BLED AND DIED TO ACCOMPLISH.
ahole.
FuzzNJ Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:26 PM EST
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Bush gets credit for the 'surge' in Iraq 'working'. If that is true, then Obama should get credit for the surge in Afghanistan and the concentration on Pakistan that ended up getting Osama.
wheelrite Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:29 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Bush gets credit for the 'surge' in Iraq 'working'. If that is true, then Obama should get credit for the surge in Afghanistan and the concentration on Pakistan that ended up getting Osama.


Hey. Nikita,,

If and when the surge in Afghanistan succeeds Barry will get his props...
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:30 PM EST
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Apples and oranges crybaby.
FuzzNJ Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:32 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Hey. Nikita,,

If and when the surge in Afghanistan succeeds Barry will get his props...


Bin Laden is dead. He was wanted 'dead or alive' until our resources were diverted to Iraq, then Bush said he 'didn't think about him that much.'

Obama readjusted the priorities.
FuzzNJ Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:33 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Apples and oranges crybaby.


Of course it is.
wheelrite Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:36 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Bin Laden is dead. He was wanted 'dead or alive' until our resources were diverted to Iraq, then Bush said he 'didn't think about him that much.'

Obama readjusted the priorities.


Bro,,

are really this dense ?

Binladen has been a non issue in global terrorism since 9-11.

Yes it's good he's dead but at this point it's like catching Nazis in Brazil in the 1960s.He was a wanted criminal and now he's gone.He paid for his crimes. But it won't cause the Murdering Muslims to have an epiphany and sing Kumbaya,,,
FuzzNJ Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:41 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Bro,,

are really this dense ?

Binladen has been a non issue in global terrorism since 9-11.

Yes it's good he's dead but at this point it's like catching Nazis in Brazil in the 1960s.He was a wanted criminal and now he's gone.He paid for his crimes. But it won't cause the Murdering Muslims to have an epiphany and sing Kumbaya,,,


okies, non issue. wtf is wrong with you?

The man killed thousands of people. Non issue? Holy sh*t. You are letting your hatred of Obama cloud your f**king brain.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:45 PM EST
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FuZz...it wasa good speech.
wheelrite Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:46 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
okies, non issue. wtf is wrong with you?

The man killed thousands of people. Non issue? Holy sh*t. You are letting your hatred of Obama cloud your f**king brain.


Unlike radical lefties,I hate no man...

obviously you can't comprehend a cogent post..

re-read my previous post or have someone read it you and pay attention...
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:49 PM EST
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Fuzz this is an American victory. Not left nor right. And it is the fruit of intellegence and armed forces labor. Let it go for tonight.
FuzzNJ Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 10:58 PM EST
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I will stand by this:

Bush gets credit for the 'surge' in Iraq 'working'. If that is true, then Obama should get credit for the surge in Afghanistan and the concentration on Pakistan that ended up getting Osama.

The 'conservatives' on this board and elsewhere were demanding Bush receive the credit for that strategic decision.
rfenst Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 11:29 PM EST
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No one in their right mind should care about the politics of this tonight!
FuzzNJ Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 11:31 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
No one in their right mind should care about the politics of this tonight!


I will defend my side whenever I see this bs. Don't call into question my state of mind.
DBIII Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 11:32 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
No one in their right mind should care about the politics of this tonight!


Said the wiseman.....+1 Robert. Applause
donutboy2000 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 11:45 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Don't call into question my state of mind.





LOL !!!!!!
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, May 1 2011, 11:47 PM EST
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Robert you are my hero tonight bro, I mean it.
gringococolo Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 8:45 AM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Bro,,

are really this dense ?

Binladen has been a non issue in global terrorism since 9-11.

Yes it's good he's dead but at this point it's like catching Nazis in Brazil in the 1960s.He was a wanted criminal and now he's gone.He paid for his crimes. But it won't cause the Murdering Muslims to have an epiphany and sing Kumbaya,,,



Wheel,

I think you are dead wrong in your assertion that Osama has not been a factor. Osama provided the motivation, money, and technical know how to build roadside bombs, IED's, in addition to his intelligence factor.

Will there be another Osama? Not likely. This guys financial means were slowly being cut off since the mid 90's. He was educated and had the charisma to unite a people that are generally impossible to get to agree on anything.

He motivated people that generally believe in "Allah's will". Allah's will is more of a "if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen", phillosophy. Not a proactive, lets force Allah's will stance.



I am glad he is dead. I am thankful that the president acted upon this intelligence. I am certain is has slowed down his the terrorist network and hobbled them. It further allows the intelligence community to focus on other characters in a more covert fashion.

Osama was like the hydra, but we finally got the correct head.
Stinkdyr Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 8:55 AM EST
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CigarSmoker wrote:
More then Bush..



than ?

Think
Papachristou Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:08 AM EST
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It doesnt matter. Obama was the man in charge when we got osama so he gets the credit. plan and simple. sure, the CIA and whoever else has been working on this for 10 years roughly but its who's driving when you cross the finish line that gets the glory.

I was mildy suprised and pleased with obama's repeated use of God in his speech last night.
Nicar Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:38 AM EST
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This is a nice little quote from out fear...... . less... leader....

"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan," Obama said. "A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."

Yes, he directed the whole operation... he deserves all the credit, his military expertise was shown in the execution of the operation....... more like, he gave the go.. that's about it..

What many fail to believe and face is that, no matter who is the leader of a muslim country, they will always have a hatred and lack of tolerance of anyone that is non-mulsim/islamic. The religion does not have a tolerance for other religions, and this is the face of their culture. Anyone who is not such, is an infidel. It's not political with them.. it's culture, a way of life, their civilization that they live in. They get a gun at an early age, and know that most of their food comes from their goat. Will there be another "leader" of terrorist like him.... yes... What's the solution? Who knows... but we need to fix the US. Do we pull troops out of there? Hell no... we are the police of the world and must let them know that they will not bring their ways to our home soil.
Papachristou Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:39 AM EST
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well wrote Nicar!
FuzzNJ Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:53 AM EST
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"The search is underway for those who were behind these evil acts. I have directed the full resources of our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and to bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."

George Bush delivered 9/11/01

"Among other measures, I have directed additional security of our airports, and increased Coast Guard patrols of major seaports. The Department of Homeland Security is working closely with the nation's governors to increase armed security at critical facilities across America."

Bush 3/17/03

I suppose Bush directed the whole operations here? Please. He is the President and gives the orders. Desperately trying any way to make Obama less relevent.

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."

Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02
HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:54 AM EST
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FuzNJ Osama Obama Outrage!
Papachristou Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:55 AM EST
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been eating some donuts lately HD?
FuzzNJ Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:57 AM EST
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No outrage, just laughing at how distraught the right wingers are today as they desperately try to give the last administration credit, dismiss this administration all while asking everyone not to be political. So freakin' pitiful and transparent.
Nicar Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 9:58 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
No outrage, just laughing at how distraught the right wingers are today as they desperately try to give the last administration credit, dismiss this administration all while asking everyone not to be political. So freakin' pitiful and transparent.



Nice cut and cut and cut...

A president never directs an operation. He gives the main go, he may be advised, but its those leaders in our armed Forces that directs it. They choose the personnel to use, they choose the route to take. They ultimately give the order to attack, to wait, to go back. Those are the ones that direct.

Obama may be Commander in Chief, but he does not lead any unit of troops out on the battlefield.
FuzzNJ Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:00 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Obama may be Commander in Chief, but he does not lead any unit of troops out on the battlefield.


As a 6 year old of one of my friends used to say, "duh".
HockeyDad Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:01 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Nice cut and cut and cut...

A president never directs an operation. He gives the main go, he may be advised, but its those leaders in our armed Forces that directs it. They choose the personnel to use, they choose the route to take. They ultimately give the order to attack, to wait, to go back. Those are the ones that direct.

Obama may be Commander in Chief, but he does not lead any unit of troops out on the battlefield.





That may all be true, but Obama did just win reelection!
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#36 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:06 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:

Obama may be Commander in Chief,




Think Think could have sworn he called himself 'Commander and Chief' last night...
Papachristou Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:08 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
That may all be true, but Obama did just win reelection!


signed, sealed and delivered! Brick wall

Fuzz, i really havent seen righty running around slamming obama? i give the guy credit, im pleasantly suprised and also pleased with his repeated use of God in his speech. I give obama credit as well as the previous administration. Besides all that, neither administration should really get the credit. the same people are working at the CIA, defense department, navy seals etc that were when bush was in office. nothing changed for them when obama took over.

at the end of the day, obama was the driver when we got him so he gets the credit. end of story. like it, love it, hate it... doesnt matter. But anyone with a brain can realize both sides worked to get one end result for Americans.
Nicar Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:10 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
As a 6 year old of one of my friends used to say, "duh".



So you agree that he didn't direct the killing of Osama.... thank you.. !!
Papachristou Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:12 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
So you agree that he didn't direct the killing of Osama.... thank you.. !!



dont you feel bad for tricking fuzz? Sarcasm
Nicar Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:17 AM EST
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Papachristou wrote:
dont you feel bad for tricking fuzz? Sarcasm


Ha... me do that??? Angel
FuzzNJ Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:22 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
So you agree that he didn't direct the killing of Osama.... thank you.. !!


I agreed that Presidents don't lead soldiers into battle. Sheesh, it's like talking to children on the short bus.
HockeyDad Offline
#42 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:23 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I agreed that Presidents don't lead soldiers into battle. Sheesh, it's like talking to children on the short bus.




Just remember, Apple is tracking your every move while you're on that bus.
FuzzNJ Offline
#43 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:23 AM EST
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Papachristou wrote:
dont you feel bad for tricking fuzz? Sarcasm


You do know that adding a sarcasm smiley means you aren't being serious about tricking me, right? Nicar doesn't.
FuzzNJ Offline
#44 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:24 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Just remember, Apple is tracking your every move while you're on that bus.


I don't have an iphone or ipad. Got a droid. They are probably following me too, but it's not apple. ;)
ZRX1200 Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 10:46 AM EST
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Did you wife not give you enough allowance for an iphone?
FuzzNJ Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 11:00 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Did you wife not give you enough allowance for an iphone?


No, obviously not. I'm a poor man tied to the house forced to do work like a slave, you ahole. So jealous of my high earning wife you must continue with this childish behavior.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 11:04 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
No, obviously not. I'm a poor man tied to the house forced to do work like a slave, you ahole. So jealous of my high earning wife you must continue with this childish behavior.



Look I went through a really really really bad divorce and I got an ipod.

If you're gonna be a whore at least get paid like one!!!whip
FuzzNJ Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 11:09 AM EST
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No divorce imminent. 17th anniversary 2 days ago. Not a whore, no reason to be paid. All money is ours. Both kids college education is paid for already even if they want to get advanced degrees. Stop being haters, works for us, none of anyone else's concern.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 11:10 AM EST
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I don't know if I am part of the crazy right but I am very happy that Obama continued down the path set out by GWB and did not give in to the liberal agenda and pull out the troops and shut down Guantanamo as he promised. He continued to be vigilant against terrorism and in the end it was his mission that brought about the death of OBL. He saw the value in the intelligence coming out of Gitmo and decided to break his word and keep it open. While I will not be voting for his re-election I as an American appreciate his efforts, his resolve in not changing course, and am truly thankfull to him for eliminating the #1 threat to our national security.

Thank you Mr President.
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#50 Posted: Mon, May 2 2011, 11:12 AM EST
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
I don't know if I am part of the crazy right but I am very happy that Obama continued down the path set out by GWB and did not give in to the liberal agenda and pull out the troops and shut down Guantanamo as he promised. He continued to be vigilant against terrorism and in the end it was his mission that brought about the death of OBL. He saw the value in the intelligence coming out of Gitmo and decided to break his word and keep it open. While I will not be voting for his re-election I as an American appreciate his efforts, his resolve in not changing course, and am truly thankfull to him for eliminating the #1 threat to our national security.

Thank you Mr President.



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