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HockeyDad Offline
#51 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I'm being serious. Have you been called a racist for opposing Obama's policies?




You can't be serious! Do you have amnesia?
FuzzNJ Offline
#52 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
You can't be serious! Do you have amnesia?


Another one not answering the question. I assume you have examples.
rfenst Offline
#53 Posted:
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I think Bill Maher is hilarious and his show is very entertaining. I enjoyed watching it when we used to get HBO.
frankj1 Offline
#54 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I think Bill Maher is hilarious and his show is very entertaining. I enjoyed watching it when we used to get HBO.

this'll kill 4/5 of you but he used to declare that he was a Libertarian back when Clinton was in office and for a while after. Haven't heard him speak about any party affiliation in a long time but he ain't the liberal many think, he is an entertainer specializing in skewering politics. He hits on government and related topics, others tell wife jokes. That's entertainment.

I also find him pretty funny, no matter who is is crapping on any given year. They're all fair game for political commentary. Laugh or don't, but he has no following waiting to be told what to do.
HockeyDad Offline
#55 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Another one not answering the question. I assume you have examples.



FuzzNJ, how many "Teabaggers are racists" threads have you started?
ZRX1200 Offline
#56 Posted:
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Frankj1~
He can claim whatever he wants just like Fuzzy could say he's a teabagger. Has Maher ever publicly supported a third party cannidate? Bernie Sanders doesn't count either.
FuzzNJ Offline
#57 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
FuzzNJ, how many "Teabaggers are racists" threads have you started?


Zero. 99% positive.
ZRX1200 Offline
#58 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
You teabaggers hate that a black man is president. I however love the coloreds I give them cookies.

HockeyDad Offline
#59 Posted:
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I am glad that FuzzNJ no longer thinks that teabaggers are racists.
FuzzNJ Offline
#60 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I am glad that FuzzNJ no longer thinks that teabaggers are racists.


Can you show me where you have been called a racist for disagreeing with Obama's polices?

Two, I answered your question and I have not started any threads about racist tea-baggers.

Three, I have never said anyone is racist for disagreeing with policy.

Four, I also have not said that.
Whistlebritches Offline
#61 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Can you show me where you have been called a racist for disagreeing with Obama's polices?

Two, I answered your question and I have not started any threads about racist tea-baggers.

Three, I have never said anyone is racist for disagreeing with policy.

Four, I also have not said that.



Hey Poindexter......you just got shoved out on the playground AGAIN.This is your response????????Who's fault is it.....YOURS MORON.



Ron
HockeyDad Offline
#62 Posted:
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I'm just glad that FuzzNJ does not think people here or teabaggers are racists.
ZRX1200 Offline
#63 Posted:
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Poor Fuzzy....
frankj1 Offline
#64 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Frankj1~
He can claim whatever he wants just like Fuzzy could say he's a teabagger. Has Maher ever publicly supported a third party cannidate? Bernie Sanders doesn't count either.

Did Rich Little ever publicly endorse any canddidate at all? Did a great Nixon impression, made people laugh making fun of politicians...who gave a crap about his voting preferences?

Honestly I have no idea nor interest if he has supported anyone. And as I said before, he is an entertainer without a following so why would anyone care who he endorses anyway? He may need to attack that candidate later, you know, that's how he earns a living. I like the jokes, the irony, the delivery...he was funny when Clinton was Pres too.

I have no interest in replying to things related to Fuzz, have no idea how nor why you linked him to my comment.
FuzzNJ Offline
#65 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I'm just glad that FuzzNJ does not think people here or teabaggers are racists.


Didn't say that either.
HockeyDad Offline
#66 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Didn't say that either.




Good for you!

Applause ThumpUp
FuzzNJ Offline
#67 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Good for you!

Applause ThumpUp


So you have no examples of being called racist for opposing Obama's policies, and no examples of where I started threads saying tea-baggers are racist. Just like to throw crap out there and when called on it back off?
Whistlebritches Offline
#68 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Didn't say that either.


Fuzz
Have you ever said anything???????Or are you just a figment of our imagination........a nightmare that just won't go away so to speak??????


Ron
ZRX1200 Offline
#69 Posted:
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Frankj1 I hear what your saying. Maher has supported BHO and never has said one good word about any republican or third party member that I know of. You seem to have forgotten the part of your post about him being a liberatarian and wasn't a liberal. You brought that up sir.
FuzzNJ Offline
#70 Posted:
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Maher has said he admires Ron Paul for many of his libertarian stances.
HockeyDad Offline
#71 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So you have no examples of being called racist for opposing Obama's policies, and no examples of where I started threads saying tea-baggers are racist. Just like to throw crap out there and when called on it back off?




I never said I have been called a racist for any reason. I have black friends.

You are a racister. You think people on this board and teabaggers everywhere are racist and have admitted that. The only reason you came into any contact with them is because of arguing over Obama's policies. It is just that simple.
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#72 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I never said I have been called a racist for any reason. I have black friends.

You are a racister. You think people on this board and teabaggers everywhere are racist and have admitted that. The only reason you came into any contact with them is because of arguing over Obama's policies. It is just that simple.


Nope, you are wrong. I have said statements are racist, the continuing birth certificate issue is racist and I linked a poll where the tea party held more racist attitudes than the rest of the population. I have called signs at rally's racist and the tea party the new kkk (yeah, that one was harsh). But it's not because of disagreements with policy, it's what is said, written and their attitudes toward the President personally as shown in these things.

On all the threads, including this one, I was not the one bringing up race. It was brought up by someone else and I respond. This is how it ALWAYS is.
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#73 Posted:
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I appreciate your perceived victim-hood but if you call a person's statement racist, you can't really claim you aren't calling them a racist.

Sorry.
ZRX1200 Offline
#74 Posted:
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Ok I'll google that nugget.
rfenst Offline
#75 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Frankj1 I hear what your saying. Maher has supported BHO and never has said one good word about any republican or third party member that I know of. You seem to have forgotten the part of your post about him being a liberatarian and wasn't a liberal. You brought that up sir.


Who cares whether he is a libertarian or a "liberal" (how ever you may define the term)? Who cares who he supported or who he hasn't? Who cares whether he has said one good word about a Republican or third-party candidate or member? The guy is a comedian who uses irony, satire and hypocrisy to make some people laugh. There isn't much more to it than that. Those who don't like him need not watch him.

Whistlebritches Offline
#76 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Nope, you are wrong. I have said statements are racist, the continuing birth certificate issue is racist and I linked a poll where the tea party held more racist attitudes than the rest of the population. I have called signs at rally's racist and the tea party the new kkk (yeah, that one was harsh). But it's not because of disagreements with policy, it's what is said, written and their attitudes toward the President personally as shown in these things.

On all the threads, including this one, I was not the one bringing up race. It was brought up by someone else and I respond. This is how it ALWAYS is.



I'm just glad to see you NEVER called anyone racist.That little tidbit about the Tea Party being the new kkk......no hyperbole in that accusation at all.Of course it's ALWAYS someone elses fault.

Seriously Fuzz.........you have nothing 6 months rest in a round rubber room won't cure.


Ron
Whistlebritches Offline
#77 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Who cares whether he is a libertarian or a "liberal" (how ever you may define the term)? Who cares who he supported or who he hasn't? Who cares whether he has said one good word about a Republican or third-party candidate or member? The guy is a comedian who uses irony, satire and hypocrisy to make some people laugh. There isn't much more to it than that. Those who don't like him need not watch him.




I disagree Robert......Maher is a downright dirty basturd.I do not find him humorous in the least.Haven't watched the show ever.....mostly youtube clips is where my opinion comes from.


Ron
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#78 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I appreciate your perceived victim-hood but if you call a person's statement racist, you can't really claim you aren't calling them a racist.

Sorry.


Oh, I absolutely can. Maybe the person just didn't realize that what they were saying sounded racist and once given another perspective thinks, oh yeah, I can see it that way.
FuzzNJ Offline
#79 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I appreciate your perceived victim-hood but if you call a person's statement racist, you can't really claim you aren't calling them a racist.

Sorry.


Oh, I absolutely can and have.

Maybe the person just didn't realize that what they were saying sounded racist and once given another perspective thinks, oh yeah, I can see it that way. It's happened to me too. A friend says that doesn't sound right. Usually it has to do with women though, saying girl accidentally instead of woman when I was in college was one that comes immediately to mind.
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#80 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
I'm just glad to see you NEVER called anyone racist.That little tidbit about the Tea Party being the new kkk......no hyperbole in that accusation at all.Of course it's ALWAYS someone elses fault.

Ron


I didn't blame anyone for my statements. And the kkk comment I made was brought up and admitted by me here, I don't deny that. It is, however, tame in comparison to all that's been said about Obama and liberals regularly here. So don't get your panties in a bunch. You started the race bs on this thread with this gem:

"and if you're not a racist(Obama is half white and we know thats the only side of him the racist liberals of your party voted for).....VOTE HERMAN CAIN IN 2012 a real leader who can lead us out of the Obummer era."

It seems that you've got race on the mind. Funny how people get so upset about being perceived as racist always bring it up with stupid comments like that or say 'I have black friends'. The lady doth protest too much.
Whistlebritches Offline
#81 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I didn't blame anyone for my statements. And the kkk comment I made was brought up and admitted by me here, I don't deny that. It is, however, tame in comparison to all that's been said about Obama and liberals regularly here. So don't get your panties in a bunch. You started the race bs on this thread with this gem:

"and if you're not a racist(Obama is half white and we know thats the only side of him the racist liberals of your party voted for).....VOTE HERMAN CAIN IN 2012 a real leader who can lead us out of the Obummer era."

It seems that you've got race on the mind. Funny how people get so upset about being perceived as racist always bring it up with stupid comments like that or say 'I have black friends'. The lady doth protest too much.



I have black,brown and white friends......a black step son.......a mulatto daughter-in-law.....a hispanic son-in-law.....and an Asian wife.....no room for racism in my life.Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

My comment about Mr Cain was intended to provoke thought.How are you and your liberal party going to smear an upstanding,intelligent,conservative black man from Georgia.....who BTW sounds black.That'll drive libs infugginsane.LMAO


Ron
ZRX1200 Offline
#82 Posted:
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Oh yeah well I said that I guess but its not as bad as what you guys said...........
nice spin Fuzz.
Robert I was addressing what Frank had said then pretended he didn't. I don't give a rats azz about Maher myself but was in disagreement with his point that he was not a liberal. It was inaccurate. That was all.
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#83 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
My comment about Mr Cain was intended to provoke thought.How are you and your liberal party going to smear an upstanding,intelligent,conservative black man from Georgia.....who BTW sounds black.That'll drive libs infugginsane.LMAO


Ron


Intended to provoke thought? lmfao. There is no reason to smear the dude. No one's even talking about him at all. He's got no chance anyway. No one has even talked about him here at all, but you already assume when a liber does it's going to be racist? And he 'sounds black'? Oh good lord. I'm the racist? Dude you are one seriously f'd up person.
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#84 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Intended to provoke thought? lmfao. There is no reason to smear the dude. No one's even talking about him at all. He's got no chance anyway. No one has even talked about him here at all, but you already assume when a liber does it's going to be racist? And he 'sounds black'? Oh good lord. I'm the racist? Dude you are one seriously f'd up person.



You're right........there's no reason to smear him....BUT .....if his campaign starts gaining traction,and I think it will,mark my words.."DEMS WILL SMEAR THIS MAN" and you'll be right there on the bandwagon.

My recommendation of 6 months rest in a rubber room still stands.


Ron
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#85 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Oh yeah well I said that I guess but its not as bad as what you guys said...........
nice spin Fuzz.
Robert I was addressing what Frank had said then pretended he didn't. I don't give a rats azz about Maher myself but was in disagreement with his point that he was not a liberal. It was inaccurate. That was all.

Z...I used to watch Maher alot, not so much the last few years but once in a while. The man used to call himself a Libertarian...he had no use for either major party. I'm sure neither of us really care how he votes. But when Ron Paul first showed up on the public radar Maher did publicly push people to consider some, if not all, of his visions for a better way of governing. And he did this as a reaction to what was happening with American leadership at the time...in his opinion it was bad. That didn't pass the lefty litmus test, wouldn't you agree?

Attacking republicans when they clearly stray from the ideals they claim are their identity does not make anyone a lib, it makes them accurate critics. And it is absolutely what they should do if their role is public commentary. And when the same person attacks democrats when they are idiotic or hypocritical, it makes him an accurate critic again.

I'm more worried about people that want to shut up opposition...seems like the ultimate anti-American position to me. Without the "great debate" we are no better than any one-party dominated society, far left or far right!
ZRX1200 Offline
#86 Posted:
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Absolutely agreed bro!
I never heard him say any of that so I would agree with your initial assertion. I watched him when he had that politically incorrect show. And the group think got old to me. He seemed to put his humor on guests points and never seemed to really have many polar opposites on there.
I still thought he was humorous then but the show got old to me.
Now he really seems to be a male lefty version of Ann Coulter. Hope you get what I mean as well as I gotcha now bro.
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#87 Posted:
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there is so much effed up stuff in this thread from Fuzzy i dont have enough time in the day to go through each line to offer the commen sense and factual rebuttles.
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Papachristou wrote:
there is so much effed up stuff in this thread from Fuzzy i dont have enough time in the day to go through each line to offer the commen sense and factual rebuttles.




In all fairness, You have to spell it right to rip FuzzNJ!

"common" "rebuttals"

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#89 Posted:
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I would be anti-Somali pirates...............except that I am shaking in fear that the illiberal lefties will call me racist.


Anxious
MikeyRavioli Offline
#90 Posted:
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There was never a surplus. Every year there has been national debt. Every year the debt has gone up. That means that every year the government spent more than it took in. If there was ever a surplus, especially one as large as Clinton supposedly left, then the national debt would have gone down or been eliminated.
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#91 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
And another example. Another tough guy from the 101st keyboard brigade. Go ahead and show me where I start insulting people out of the box, before I'm insulted. Won't be able to.



I dunno. Most of your idiotic comments and beliefs insult the intelligent of most around here.

Maybe if you got a clue, you wouldn't be so despised.
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#92 Posted:
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jpotts wrote:
I dunno. Most of your idiotic comments and beliefs insult the intelligent of most around here.

Maybe if you got a clue, you wouldn't be so despised.


Ah, so I need to think just like everyone else here so you guys aren't FORCED to act like children and insult instead of discuss.

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MikeyRavioli wrote:
There was never a surplus. Every year there has been national debt. Every year the debt has gone up. That means that every year the government spent more than it took in. If there was ever a surplus, especially one as large as Clinton supposedly left, then the national debt would have gone down or been eliminated.


It is the third year in a row the federal government has taken in more than it spent, and has paid down the debt. The last time the U.S. government had a third consecutive year of national debt reduction was 1949, said the official.

The federal budget surplus for fiscal year 1999 was $122.7 billion, and $69.2 billion for fiscal year 1998. Those back-to-back surpluses, the first since 1957, allowed the Treasury to pay down $138 billion in national debt.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/
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#94 Posted:
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Stinkdyr wrote:
I would be anti-Somali pirates...............except that I am shaking in fear that the illiberal lefties will call me racist.


Anxious


Obama killed a few of those too.
FuzzNJ Offline
#95 Posted:
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Papachristou wrote:
there is so much effed up stuff in this thread from Fuzzy i dont have enough time in the day to go through each line to offer the commen sense and factual rebuttles.


Nor could you with anything that would resemble a logical argument, but that's ok. I probably couldn't racially profile someone renting a car. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
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IT'S THOSE/THESE DUMBASSED DEMOCRATS THAT JUST PASSED A BILL IN MARYLAND THAT WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HAVE CIGARS SHIPPED TO MY HOUSE!

FU###NG DEMOCRATS, LIBERAL PUKES!
FuzzNJ Offline
#97 Posted:
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jig+pig wrote:
IT'S THOSE/THESE DUMBASSED DEMOCRATS THAT JUST PASSED A BILL IN MARYLAND THAT WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HAVE CIGARS SHIPPED TO MY HOUSE!

FU###NG DEMOCRATS, LIBERAL PUKES!


lmao, all caps and everything. I don't like that law either. But you do know it's not just Democrats who support legislation like this, right? Laws like this have been proposed and are spreading all over the country. States are losing a lot of tax revenue to other states from sales over the internet. I used to buy cigarettes from Switzerland, but that was stopped years ago because no one was getting taxes from it. Same concept with the banning of internet poker, which was mostly heralded by the right and criticized by (gulp) Barney Frank. But go on your rant if it makes you feel better.
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#98 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Nor could you with anything that would resemble a logical argument, but that's ok. I probably couldn't racially profile someone renting a car. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.



You're bringing Logical back?
Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ffHqMaUCTw


LOLZ!!!!!


MikeyRavioli Offline
#99 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
It is the third year in a row the federal government has taken in more than it spent, and has paid down the debt. The last time the U.S. government had a third consecutive year of national debt reduction was 1949, said the official.

The federal budget surplus for fiscal year 1999 was $122.7 billion, and $69.2 billion for fiscal year 1998. Those back-to-back surpluses, the first since 1957, allowed the Treasury to pay down $138 billion in national debt.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/



Maybe I am wrong, but I think Fuzz is a victim of fuzzy math.

Go to the U.S. Treasury website: http://www.ustreas.gov/

Click on "Bureaus": Takes you to http://www.ustreas.gov/bureaus/

Click on "Bureau of the Public Debt": Takes you to http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/

Scroll down to the section "The U.S. Public Debt" and click on "See the U.S. Public Debt to the Penny."

This takes you to the link http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np


Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government's fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton's budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994), here's the national debt at the end of each year of Clinton Budgets:


Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion



As can clearly be seen, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit.
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#100 Posted:
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wasn't it a projected surplus over the next 50 years or somethin......??? Huh
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