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Another example of tea party racism.
jpotts Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 06-14-2006
Posts: 28,811
I think the real problem that Fuzz has with the TEA Party is that they aren't saddled with same White Guilt that caused Fuzz to vote for Idi Amin Jr.
FuzzNJ Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
jpotts wrote:
And this is where Fuzz is wrong...again.

The derivatives were a creation of government programs that literally forced banks to give out high-risk loans to people that everyone knew couldn't be paid back. The result was a lot of junk paper.

So, like good businessmen, the banks tried to turn crap into gold, in order to prevent from going under. So they created a derivatives market and sold off their bad debt to anyone stupid enough to buy them.

Then you had institutions like the FDIC putting their backing behind the proliferation of said high-risk loans, making the laughable claim that they were a better investment than standard loans because their default rate was so "low." The reason for that was because prior to the Clinton administration putting the screws to the financial institutions, those types of loans were given out rarely.

Then again, Fannie Mae and Freddis Mac - the two entities holding the bag on lion's share of that bad debt - were both quasi-government institutions. They weren't free market institutions even in the most "liberal" interpretation of the term.

But it all started with liberals like Fuzz in government trying to make socialism work. It doesn't.

I fail to be amazed anymore my Fuzz's complete ignorance on just about every subject.

Either that or he is just a blatant liar. You can pretty much take your pick.


lol, that's not even close to being correct in any way.


http://cybercemetery.unt.edu/archive/fcic/20110310172443/http://fcic.gov/
HockeyDad Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,156
What Caused the Financial Crisis?

George Santayana is oft en quoted for the aphorism that “Those who cannot
remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” Looking back on the financial crisis,
we can see why the study of history is often so contentious and why revisionist
histories are so easy to construct. There are always many factors that could have
caused an historical event; the difficult task is to discern which, among a welter of
possible causes, were the significant ones—the ones without which history would
have been different. Using this standard, I believe that the sine qua non of the
financial crisis was U.S. government housing policy, which led to the creation of 27
million subprime and other risky loans—half of all mortgages in the United States—
which were ready to default as soon as the massive 1997-2007 housing bubble began
to deflate. If the U.S. government had not chosen this policy path—fostering the
growth of a bubble of unprecedented size and an equally unprecedented number of
weak and high risk residential mortgages—the great financial crisis of 2008 would
never have occurred.

Initiated by Congress in 1992 and pressed by HUD in both the Clinton and
George W. Bush Administrations, the U.S. government’s housing policy sought to
increase home ownership in the United States through an intensive effort to reduce
mortgage underwriting standards. In pursuit of this policy, HUD used (i) the
affordable housing requirements imposed by Congress in 1992 on the government sponsored
enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, (ii) its control over the
policies of the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), and (iii) a “Best Practices
Initiative” for subprime lenders and mortgage banks, to encourage greater subprime
and other high risk lending. HUD’s key role in the growth of subprime and other
high risk mortgage lending is covered in detail in Part III.
Ultimately, all these entities, as well as insured banks covered by the CRA,
were compelled to compete for mortgage borrowers who were at or below the median
income in the areas in which they lived. Th is competition caused underwriting
standards to decline, increased the numbers of weak and high risk loans far beyond
what the market would produce without government influence, and contributed
importantly to the growth of the 1997-2007 housing bubble.

When the bubble began to deflate in mid-2007, the low quality and high
risk loans engendered by government policies failed in unprecedented numbers.
The effect of these defaults was exacerbated by the fact that few if any investors—
including housing market analysts—understood at the time that Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac had been acquiring large numbers of subprime and other high risk
loans in order to meet HUD’s affordable housing goals.

Alarmed by the unexpected delinquencies and defaults that began to appear
in mid-2007, investors fled the multi-trillion dollar market for mortgage-backed
securities (MBS), dropping MBS values—and especially those MBS backed by
subprime and other risky loans—to fractions of their former prices. Mark-to-market
accounting then required financial institutions to write down the value of
their assets—reducing their capital positions and causing great investor and creditor
unease.
ZRX1200 Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,626
Someone once told me the best way to ruin a good story isto listen to the other side.....
chiefburg Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 01-31-2005
Posts: 7,384
ZRX1200 wrote:
Someone once told me the best way to ruin a good story isto listen to the other side.....

Don't cloud the issue with facts..........it muddy's the water too much............
ZRX1200 Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,626
Well he posted the thing with no google link or snopes.
spink1015 Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 01-03-2010
Posts: 3
Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo!
FuzzNJ wrote:
If you think you’ve already seen the worst Tea Party racism, you’re sadly mistaken. Because a group called Turn Right USA has released an attack ad directed at Democrat Janice Hahn, intended to help Republicans in the upcoming special election in California.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_WG0v_kO0

and point being? what! all dems should be kicked out, no mateer what color they are! dems have no values or pricaples! and i can not spell! us tea partiers do not care about color or sex! it all about values and princables!
Papachristou Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 10-20-2010
Posts: 845
FuzzNJ wrote:
The PAC that made it, Turn Right USA. Run by Ladd Ehlinger Jr. who is a right wing tea party type person.


so he isnt a member of the tea party, you are just classifying him with them? typical lefty


Papachristou Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 10-20-2010
Posts: 845
spink1015 wrote:
Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo! Boo hoo!
and point being? what! all dems should be kicked out, no mateer what color they are! dems have no values or pricaples! and i can not spell! us tea partiers do not care about color or sex! it all about values and princables!


good lord, please use spell check or google.

FYI here is the address www.google.com . just type that at the top where it says cigarbid.com right now, then type whatever word you cant spell right below the word GOOGLE and it will give you the correct spelling and use of the word.
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