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OBAMA AND HARRY REID JUST WON A SECOND TERM FOR PRESIDENT
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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 3:07 AM EST
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THE REPUBLICANS JUST BLINKED, TWICE.

I WONDER IF THEY WILL OFFER OBAMA A FEW CLOSED TAX LOOPHOLES IF HE PROMISES NOT TO EMBARRASS THEM AGAIN.

HOW MANY SEATS WILL THE REPUBLICANS LOSE IN THE NEXT CONGRESS. ANS BELOW.
AS MANY AS NECESSARY TO LOSE THE HOUSE,
stogiemonger Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 5:13 AM EST
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What with the wonderful economy and all? The low gas prices, the great housing market, the debt crisis, the failed "shovel ready" stimulus package. Yeah, there a shoe in for sure.
snowwolf777 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 8:12 AM EST
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Harry Reid is co-POTUS? I wish they'd quit changing the gum-o-mint on the fly so I can keep track of the players.

Think
snowwolf777 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 8:31 AM EST
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I'm with the Monger on this. I don't think this debacle is going to carry him back to the White House anymore than getting Bin Laden will.

Long as people are on the street, jobs are being lost, unemployment is running out, gas prices are sky high, home values are in the toilet, no raises, 401Ks are melting down, new taxes are being levied or threatened, traditional entitlements are being cut or threatened to be eliminated - I think the message of "Hope and Change" is officially dead.

This guy is the last of the great bullsh*t talkers who get to skate into the POTUS office solely on feel-good talk with no past record of achievement to back it up. Good talkin' at a "Yes We Can" rally doesn't cut it with the above-mentioned in place. Professional politicians who have never held a real job have lost their shine. We've all gotten the message this time around that magic fairy dust ain't gonna solve some very real, very tough problems.

Yes, I know - they're all BS talkers. But as several governors are proving, you have to take tough stands with the entitlement crowd, zero-liablity voters, unions, senior citizens and other traditional pandering targets to get traction with the mainstream, either Republican or Democrat.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 8:39 AM EST
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July 14, 2011

"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%

Margin marks first statistically significant lead among registered voters - by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the "Republican Party's candidate for president" than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama's re-election prospects.

See all election 2012 data > The latest results are based on a July 7-10 poll, and show that the Republican has an edge for the second consecutive month. Obama held a slight edge in May, when his approval rating increased after the death of Osama bin Laden. As his rating has come back down during the last two months, so has his standing on the presidential "generic ballot."

Gallup typically uses this question format when a president is seeking re-election but his likely opponent is unknown, as was the case in 1991-1992 and 2003-2004, when incumbents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, respectively, were seeking re-election.

The elder Bush held large leads over his generic Democratic opponent throughout 1991, but early 1992 preferences were more evenly divided and Bush eventually lost his re-election bid. The younger Bush also consistently maintained at least a small advantage over the Democrat throughout 2003, before winning re-election in a close contest in November 2004.


Thus, the results more than a year ahead of the election do not have a large degree of predictive ability, and underscore that things can change greatly in the final year or more before an election.

Both Bushes had higher job approval ratings in the year before their re-election contests than Obama does now, helping explain why Obama has fared less well on the generic ballot in the year prior to the election year. George H.W. Bush's approval rating in July 1991 averaged 71%, while George W. Bush's July 2003 average was 60%. Obama's latest weekly average is 46%.

Obama Trailing Among Independent Voters

Independent registered voters are currently more likely to vote for the Republican candidate (44%) than for Obama (34%), though one in five do not have an opinion. Republicans and Democrats show strong party loyalty in their vote choices, with Republicans showing somewhat stronger loyalty.


Independents' preferences are similar to what Gallup measured last month, while Republicans' support for the Republican candidate has increased slightly.

Implications

President Obama's re-election prospects do not look very favorable at this point -- if the election were held today, as measured by the generic presidential ballot. However, that result does not necessarily mean he is likely to be denied a second term in November 2012. At this point in 1991, George H.W. Bush looked like a sure bet to win a second term, but he was defeated.

One key factor in determining Obama's eventual electoral fate is whom the Republican Party nominates as its presidential candidate and the appeal that person has compared with Obama. Mitt Romney is the presumptive front-runner, but Americans have generally not held very positive opinions of him the last few years.

The state of the nation will also influence whether Obama is elected to a second term. Right now, Americans are especially dissatisfied with the way things are going in this country, and economic confidence is lagging.

However, the political environment can certainly change in the 16 months leading up to the election, something that occurred during the 1984 and 1996 election cycles (in the incumbent's favor) and 1992 cycle (in the opponent's favor) when incumbent presidents were seeking re-election.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/148487/Republican-Candidate-Extends-Lead-Obama.aspx


Let's not get in the middle of one of Rick's delusional fantasies though. All the Jell-O you can eat in the dayroom!!!!
daveincincy Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 8:41 AM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
...you have to take tough stands with the entitlement crowd, zero-liablity voters, unions, senior citizens and other traditional pandering targets to get traction with the mainstream, either Republican or Democrat.


+1

It's time government stand behind and work for those who want to work and make a [positive] change rather than those who feel they are entitled to something when they are not. Unfortunately, in current society we give trophies to those who come in last place so I'm not sure things will get much better as we continue to bring kids up with the same sense of entitlement. The government essentially does the same thing. The world needs ditch diggers too ya know.
rfenst Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 8:54 AM EST
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It's going to be about the economy, stupid!
daveincincy Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 9:00 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
It's going to be about the economy, stupid!


Well, then Obama better get busy producing results.
chiefburg Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 9:09 AM EST
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The incumbent always has the advantage of being reelected - go with what you know vice the unknown. Will he be reelected?? I think some of you are giving the American public more credit than they deserve. We've elected some real winners over the last 20 years or so and it doesn't have much to do with reality. I'm sure Obama is in the drivers seat no matter what the economy is like. America votes on popularity, feelings, looks, and what is easy. What's worse, neither party has a truly viable candidate that sticks out like a sore thumb. Most potential candidates have so many chinks in their armour that the press will tear them apart and discredit them.

I think the only way we'll ever break this cycle we've been on is to not elect a Republican or Democrat - I think we need to elect someone a little off the beaten path and with a little business sense to get us back on track.
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 9:17 AM EST
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Join the revolution.
apachelm Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 9:26 AM EST
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Rick how is that? By admitting he was bluffing?
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 9:45 AM EST
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Yeah....I was expecting the news actors to be talking big victory and mission accomplished. Nadda.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 9:56 AM EST
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So when Obama wins again and if the Dems take both houses how will people like Rick find a way to blame Republicans?

If every single seat in both houses went blue for Obamas second term Rick would still post about Bush and Palin.
apachelm Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 11:15 AM EST
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
So when Obama wins again and if the Dems take both houses how will people like Rick find a way to blame Republicans?

If every single seat in both houses went blue for Obamas second term Rick would still post about Bush and Palin.



Happened in 2009 & 2010
Papachristou Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 2:43 PM EST
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chiefburg wrote:
The incumbent always has the advantage of being reelected - go with what you know vice the unknown. Will he be reelected?? I think some of you are giving the American public more credit than they deserve. We've elected some real winners over the last 20 years or so and it doesn't have much to do with reality. I'm sure Obama is in the drivers seat no matter what the economy is like. America votes on popularity, feelings, looks, and what is easy. What's worse, neither party has a truly viable candidate that sticks out like a sore thumb. Most potential candidates have so many chinks in their armour that the press will tear them apart and discredit them.

I think the only way we'll ever break this cycle we've been on is to not elect a Republican or Democrat - I think we need to elect someone a little off the beaten path and with a little business sense to get us back on track.


all true. none of it will happen
MTappert Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 4:13 PM EST
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*disclaimer. Im drunk


point numero uno. People already forgot about obama killing osama bin laden with his bare hands.

pointo numero duo. **** obama

poinito numbero tersi. <-- is that 3?

point 4. obama isnt that popular last time i checked.
Whistlebritches Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 5:09 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
THE REPUBLICANS JUST BLINKED, TWICE.

I WONDER IF THEY WILL OFFER OBAMA A FEW CLOSED TAX LOOPHOLES IF HE PROMISES NOT TO EMBARRASS THEM AGAIN.

HOW MANY SEATS WILL THE REPUBLICANS LOSE IN THE NEXT CONGRESS. ANS BELOW.
AS MANY AS NECESSARY TO LOSE THE HOUSE,



Rick

I would like to know what planet you live on..........Please send me your snailer,I got some wake the f*ck up pills you need to add to your daily diet.


In my best cajun accent...."IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID".

Ron
dpnewell Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 6:37 PM EST
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Ya know, Rick, my FIL suffered from dementia, shortly before his passing. He didn't have any grip on reality, but he sure was happy in his fantasy world.
donutboy2000 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2011, 7:54 PM EST
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OBAMA IS




FINISHED !
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 1:33 AM EST
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i believe this is a three-fer.

snowwolf777 3

as the pogram sellers shout out when you enter the ball park,
"can't tell the players without a program!"

apparently you don't have a breeders guide.

courtesy of the marks brothers.




can't tell the jewish pitcher without a pogrom.
courtesy rick miller



MikeyRavioli #13

you are on your way to knowing the important things in life.

welcome



dpnewell 18

i rather enjoy my whatever you called it. things are bright and
shiny and colorful
wheelrite Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 6:33 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Ya know, Rick, my FIL suffered from dementia, shortly before his passing. He didn't have any grip on reality, but he sure was happy in his fantasy world.



not nice...
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 8:13 AM EST
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I missed whatever happened. Did our elected officials finally hear the calls from the population to take on more in our and our children's names?

WE NEED MORE DEBT!
dpnewell Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 2:37 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:

dpnewell 18

i rather enjoy my whatever you called it. things are bright and
shiny and colorful




Just relating a story about my dearly departed Father In Law, Rick. Can't see where I said anything about you in that reply.
dpnewell Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 2:38 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
not nice...


Yes, I know. It is a horrible disease, and was very hard on the family.
MCAddict Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 3:10 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
i believe this is a three-fer.

snowwolf777 3

as the pogram sellers shout out when you enter the ball park,
"can't tell the players without a program!"

apparently you don't have a breeders guide.

courtesy of the marks brothers.




can't tell the jewish pitcher without a pogrom.
courtesy rick miller



MikeyRavioli #13

you are on your way to knowing the important things in life.

welcome



dpnewell 18

i rather enjoy my whatever you called it. things are bright and
shiny and colorful




"pogram" WTF?
anti-semtical freudrian slip? Gonz
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 5:55 PM EST
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wheelrite

WHY NOT, HE IMPLIED I HAD DEMENTIA. READ IT AGAIN.

THE FACT THAT YOU AND I DISAGREE ABOUT POLITICS DOES NOT MEAN I AM WACKED OUT.

IT MEANS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MUCH OF WHAT I WRITE.

IT MAY ALSO MEAN YOU ARE STUCK WITH WHAT YOU LEARNED AS A YOUNGSTER, INSTEAD OF
ADDING TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE BASE.
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 6:09 PM EST
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IM JUST GLAD IM NOT AN ANT. THOSE CRAZY LEFT WINGERS MAY HAVE TRIED TO KILL ME WHEN I WAS A LARVE!!!!!!
donutboy2000 Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 6:20 PM EST
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CUT rick's


WELFARE



PAYMENTS



NOW!!!
stogiemonger Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 6:56 PM EST
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^ Cut Welfare? Now, only real Democrats do that. Socialists and Communists that have taken the party in modern times? Maybe not so much.
dpnewell Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 7:17 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
wheelrite

WHY NOT, HE IMPLIED I HAD DEMENTIA. READ IT AGAIN.





Ah, Rick, I never said you had dementia. I thought we where friends and just wanted to share some personal family stuff with you. That comment of yours really hurt my feelings.

Going to grab a Fuerte, head out to the smoke room, and watch the Phillies/Mets game I recorded today, and hopefully, not cry in my gluten free beer.
HockeyDad Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 8:31 PM EST
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Watching a recorded baseball qualifies as dementia.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2011, 11:37 PM EST
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dpnewell

IF I READ AN IMPLICATION THAT WAS NOT IMPLIED, I APOLOGIZE..
Charlie Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Jul 23 2011, 10:39 PM EST
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I have been off these boards for about 6 months and one thing will never change.....

Rick is a crazy leftist!ram27bat
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2011, 2:42 AM EST
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Charlie

welcome back

we are what we are.
Charlie Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Jul 24 2011, 10:38 AM EST
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thanks Rick!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you still have strong beliefs in Obama and the Administration!Sarcasm
snowwolf777 Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2011, 9:08 AM EST
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YEAH, HE CAN JUST PHONE IN THIS ELECTION ...Frying pan

President Barack Obama’s approval rating sank to a new low Friday, according to Gallup’s daily presidential tracking poll.

Just 40 percent of Americans say they approve of Obama’s performance as president. That is down three percentage points from Thursday. 50 percent say they do not approve of the job he is doing.

The poor rating comes amidst an increasingly chaotic debate over raising the debt ceiling, as the deadline to raise it or risk the government defaulting on its debts looms.

Just 41 percent of the public said they approved of the way Obama was handling the debt-ceiling negotiations, while 52 percent disapproved, according to another Gallup poll released Thursday. Nonetheless, Obama still polls better than congressional leadership. Speaker of the House John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid both received even lower approval rates.

The president’s 40 percent approval rating follows a Pew Research Center for the People and the Press poll released Thursday that found Obama’s support among independents has eroded a great deal. 54 percent of independents disapprove of Obama’s performance as president, according to the Pew poll, the most during his time in office. Just 36 percent approve of the job he is doing.

Obama’s approval rating is below that of former President Bill Clinton’s lowest approval rating during the government shutdowns of 1995.

Source: The Daily Caller
snowwolf777 Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2011, 9:12 AM EST
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I do give him some credit, though. He maneuvered Boner and the repubes into a Mad Max sort of deal. They lumbered off in one direction with a tanker truck filled with sand while the Dems have headed off the other way with a bus load of fuel.

Meanwhile, Palin and Bachman are running in circles around them both on their dune buggies, making all kinds of threats over their loudspeakers.

Can someone with photoshop please put Palin's head on a screen grab of The Humongous?Beer
HockeyDad Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2011, 9:22 AM EST
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If Obama got his way, his budget projection for his 8 year term would have doubled the national debt. He is entirely failing at making that happen.

Obama needs to step up as a leader and deliver us into more debt!
rfenst Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Jul 31 2011, 8:32 PM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
I do give him some credit, though. He maneuvered Boner and the repubes into a Mad Max sort of deal. They lumbered off in one direction with a tanker truck filled with sand while the Dems have headed off the other way with a bus load of fuel.

Meanwhile, Palin and Bachman are running in circles around them both on their dune buggies, making all kinds of threats over their loudspeakers.

Can someone with photoshop please put Palin's head on a screen grab of The Humongous?Beer



Palin has lost her shimmer by resigning and commercializing herself.
Bachmann has too many skeletons in her closet.
I would be shocked if either had any real impact during crunch time.
snowwolf777 Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Aug 1 2011, 7:56 AM EST
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Don't get me wrong - neither has a legitimate shot. Just background noise drowning out the real hope.
Stinkdyr Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Aug 1 2011, 12:15 PM EST
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I will need them to menage a trois me in order for me to offer a valid opinion.

Liar
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