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Boehner: "I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy."
FuzzNJ Offline
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9th biggest drop in the Dow, ever.

Way to go!
HockeyDad Offline
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Obama Recession: The Sequel
ZRX1200 Offline
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You wanna put this on Boner?

Till debt is adressed painfully this is the new Amerika.
DrafterX Offline
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if only Boner had gotten 100%.... we wouldn't be in this mess... Sad
ZRX1200 Offline
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Oh wait. Forgot the audience.

Debt equals spending not taxes.
snowwolf777 Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
9th biggest drop in the Dow, ever.

Way to go!


Yeah, President Bush and the Republican majority in the Senate and House really hosed us.

Frying pan
dubleuhb Offline
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Obamanomics hard at work destroying America one day at a time.
jackconrad Offline
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Welcome to the USSA
FuzzNJ Offline
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So this drop was Obama's fault? The House actions had nothing at all to do with it?

You do realize that the market when Bush took over was 10.5k and when he left 7.9k and was 12.4k when the tea-baggers took over the House, right?
chiefburg Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So this drop was Obama's fault? The House actions had nothing at all to do with it?

You do realize that the market when Bush took over was 10.5k and when he left 7.9k and was 12.4k when the tea-baggers took over the House, right?

Yes, he is the President of the United States. As such, it is his fault and will go down in history as his fault as with all our past Presidents.

Is this difficult for you to understand???? He is the President and he is responsible. That's why they call him the Commander in Chief.....
FuzzNJ Offline
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chiefburg wrote:
Yes, he is the President of the United States. As such, it is his fault and will go down in history as his fault as with all our past Presidents.

Is this difficult for you to understand???? He is the President and he is responsible. That's why they call him the Commander in Chief.....


Because you righties confuse me. When the economy tanked under Bush you blamed the Democratic House.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I can't wait for Palin and Bachmann to blame everything on BhO for 8 years.......


FuzzNJ Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I can't wait for Palin and Bachmann to blame everything on BhO for 8 years.......




We're talking about the current house, keep up.
ZRX1200 Offline
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No you are. Im talking to my family and showing them your posts........
pgje51 Offline
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sure hope the house and senate members were able to put in their sell orders before leaving on vacation. They worked hard and don't deserve all this.
HockeyDad Offline
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The stock market is a forwarding looking indicator trying to predict the future.
FuzzNJ Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
The stock market is a forwarding looking indicator trying to predict the future.


Well sure. With the latest 'deal' and the tea party holding their breath and jumping up and down 'til they get their way on everything, the near future is f*cked.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Yeah they need to get outta they way so we can spend more.....and more.
FuzzNJ Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah they need to get outta they way so we can spend more.....and more.


Myopic view of the economy and one that if it continues to be the dominant force driving policy, will only contract the economy even more.
HockeyDad Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Well sure. With the latest 'deal' and the tea party holding their breath and jumping up and down 'til they get their way on everything, the near future is f*cked.


So you fell for that horsecrap 'deal' show by our government?

The deal was 90% more debt that will force future tax increases and 10% spending cuts. You really want to call that a Tea Party victory.

The Democrats wanted 90% more debt and 10% tax increases and this is some sort of major loss?
ZRX1200 Offline
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.41 cents of every dollar is borrowed.

Yes myopic.

Pain is necessary for our spending sins.
FuzzNJ Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
So you fell for that horsecrap 'deal' show by our government?

The deal was 90% more debt that will force future tax increases and 10% spending cuts. You really want to call that a Tea Party victory.

The Democrats wanted 90% more debt and 10% tax increases and this is some sort of major loss?


Fell for nothing. What makes investors worried is irrational teabaggers who may let the US default, keep trying to impliment reactionary policies that stifle the economy even more and the uncertainty of the 'deal' which was nothing to begin with.
HockeyDad Offline
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So if the teabaggers were gone money would just be flowing in and we would be in high cotton!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Oh shït.......Amerika is phuked.
HockeyDad Offline
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It is those darn teabaggers. They're trying to stifle Obama's previous two years of job & economic growth policies.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Yeah his policies are winners.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
9th biggest drop in the Dow, ever.

Way to go!




Repeat after me: Obama is the mindless puppet of

George Soros

and has exacerbated the global economic crisis!
FuzzNJ Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah his policies are winners.


Can you show me the threads where you guys gave Obama credit for the 4k increase in the Dow Average since he became president?
HockeyDad Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Can you show me the threads where you guys gave Obama credit for the 4k increase in the Dow Average since he became president?



Those threads were are deleted because you shat all over them.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Can you say printed money bubble?
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FuzzNJ wrote:
9th biggest drop in the Dow, ever.

Way to go!



So in your purple ether netherworld, the Republican-dominated House runs the country, and the Democrat Senate and Democrat President are totally helpless to do anything, correct?

And we'll just forget about the 100% Democratic House, Senate and President of the not too distant past. They who campaigned on "jobs, jobs, jobs" and accomplished zero in that regard because they were single-focused on ramming their health care "plan" up everyone's ass. Oh, and running up the debit on mega-handouts for the zero-liability voters.

Just keep saying "hope and change" over and over again. You only have 18 months until you can relive the dream.

Frying pan

Now bake me some cookies. I'm going camping this weekend.
FuzzNJ Offline
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snowwolf777 wrote:
So in your purple ether netherworld, the Republican-dominated House runs the country, and the Democrat Senate and Democrat President are totally helpless to do anything, correct?

And we'll just forget about the 100% Democratic House, Senate and President of the not too distant past.



That's the past. How long are you going to blame a Democratic controlled House? Get over it already.
HockeyDad Offline
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Hope & Change was a fraud perpetated on the American people that borders on treason.
FuzzNJ Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Hope & Change was a fraud perpetated on the American people that borders on treason.


Treason? lmao. "Compassionate conservatism" was what then, genocide?
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It isn't relevant to the fraud you perpetuated.
FuzzNJ Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
It isn't relevant to the fraud you perpetuated.


lol.
FuzzNJ Offline
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Well, now S&P downgraded our rating. Thumbs up Teabaggers.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Really? You think spending cuts that will mostly not materialize were more responsible for that then our spending addiction?

Ratings agencies said if we didn't cut spending by 4 trillion we would get downgraded regardless of a "debt crisis resolution". Our debt is out of controll.
HockeyDad Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Well, now S&P downgraded our rating. Thumbs up Teabaggers.




They downgraded due to a lack of debt reduction.

Your fraud and treachery has reaped its reward.
FuzzNJ Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
They downgraded due to a lack of debt reduction.

Your fraud and treachery has reaped its reward.


"because we believe that the
prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related
fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the
growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an
agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and
will remain a contentious and fitful process."

"The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as
America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective,
and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt
ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in
the debate over fiscal policy."

"The act contains no measures to raise taxes or otherwise enhance revenues,"

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now
assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012,
remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority
of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise
revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act."

HockeyDad Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues



The ratings agencies and the IMF were looking for 4 trillion in debt reduction over ten years from Obama's budget. They didn't get it. They weren't looking for 4 trillion in new taxes and even Obama was only looking for 80 billion in taxes.


The fraud you and your kind perpetuated has come to roost.
wheelrite Offline
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I've always wanted to live in Uraguay.Now I don't have to move,,,
pgje51 Offline
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Blade Runner, one giant step closer.
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So let me get this straight, Republicans didn't get all the spending cuts they wanted and the markets' negative reaction to this and the S&P downgrade due to too much spending is the Republican's fault. The complete and utter insane policies of the left have finally been called out. Liberals/Democrats are now on display as destroying our economic system as we have known it.
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"My party is the good party! Your party is the bad party!"

When are you suckers gonna wake up?
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borndead1 wrote:
"My party is the good party! Your party is the bad party!"

When are you suckers gonna wake up?

Finally!
FuzzNJ Offline
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robertknyc wrote:
So let me get this straight, Republicans didn't get all the spending cuts they wanted and the markets' negative reaction to this and the S&P downgrade due to too much spending is the Republican's fault. The complete and utter insane policies of the left have finally been called out. Liberals/Democrats are now on display as destroying our economic system as we have known it.


You can read the reasoning from S & P yourself, I posted a bit in post 40. Plus the timing of this downgrade after the made up 'crisis' and the way the teabaggers were willing to send this country into default doesn't give you a hint?
HockeyDad Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
You can read the reasoning from S & P yourself, I posted a bit in post 40. Plus the timing of this downgrade after the made up 'crisis' and the way the teabaggers were willing to send this country into default doesn't give you a hint?




You ignore the fact that debt reduction was what was demanded from the ratings agencies.
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HockeyDad wrote:
You ignore the fact that debt reduction was what was demanded from the ratings agencies.


I'm not. It's not the only thing though, which is what the right is focusing on. Plus S&P's idea of debt reduction includes the end of the Bush tax cuts. An S&P ratings board member was just on CNN and the first thing he said that effected the rating downgrade was the way Congress handled the entire situation, read teabaggers.
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Your assumption is that without the teabaggers everything would be fine and we would just simply raise the debt ceiling with no affect. That goes contrary to what the ratings agencies said leading into this situation a few months ago.

Think back to the original Obama budget proposal, the Ryan budget proposal, and the second Obama budget proposal and what caused the revisions.

The next step is to study European austerity. Understand who gets a chair at the table.
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