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The next protected class: Ugly people
borndead1 Offline
#1 Posted:
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/should-ugly-people-get-legal-protection-one-economist-makes-the-case/article2146407/

As anyone born with a misshapen face or serious deformity knows, ugly ducklings don’t always turn into swans.

But those who lose the genetic lottery shouldn’t have to lose in life, economist Daniel Hamermesh argues in the New York Times.

According to Dr. Hamermesh, it’s time to provide legal protections to the unattractive – similar to those for racial, ethnic and religious minorities, women and people with disabilities.

Affirmative action for the ugly could be the next “legal frontier,” he writes.

Dr. Hamermesh makes his case by citing a study showing that American workers who ranked at the bottom of an attractiveness scale, as assessed by randomly chosen observers, earned 10 to 15 percent less a year than workers with similar skills but much better looks – a lifetime difference, typically, of about $230,000.

What’s more, good-looking people are more likely to be employed, get loans with better terms and have attractive and highly educated spouses, he writes in his new book, Beauty Pays: Why Attractive People Are More Successful.

Society is complacent about discrimination based on looks, Dr. Hamermesh says.

“It’s a matter of simple prejudice,” he writes. “Most of us, regardless of our professed attitudes, prefer as customers to buy from better-looking salespeople, as jurors to listen to better-looking attorneys, as voters to be led by better-looking politicians, as students to learn from better-looking professors.”

But no one ever said life was fair, notes Ellen Meade at AmericanThinker.com. By Dr. Hamermesh’s logic, she writes, ugly people could take legal action against film companies when they don’t land movie roles.

“We can’t have people suing because they're not as smart, skilled or attractive as someone else.”

Readers of the legal blog ABAJournal.com were similarly derisive.

As a commenter by the name of LTE put it: “Most people are ugly, as Seinfeld said in one episode (“only 5 per cent of the population is dating material”). Aren’t anti-discrimination laws intended to protect minority groups?”

Critics might argue that ugly people can always opt for cosmetic surgery. But according to Dr. Hamermesh, “such refinements make only small differences in our beauty.”

And that’s assuming the ugly – and economically disadvantaged – can afford it.





This new protected class needs a spokesperson. A few nominees: Oprah, Steve Buscemi, Ann Coulter, Lyle Lovett, Marilyn Manson, Flava Flav, Rosie O'Donnell.
dpnewell Offline
#2 Posted:
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I've been to several C-Fests and dozens and dozens of herfs. Personally, I think most of us here would support this type of legislation.











Sarcasm
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted:
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so, what if you are young, good looking, land a great job but get shot in the face when you get older..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
so, what if you are young, good looking, land a great job but get shot in the face when you get older..?? Huh


Drafter you have nothing to worry about. You are not young or good looking. You have a crappy job and you do not hang out with ****** Cheney.

You are a lucky man.

You are welcome.
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted:
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10-15% less wages sound like an appropriate wage reduction for the ugly. That's not even as much as what is is for women. I see no issue.
teedubbya Offline
#6 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
10-15% less wages sound like an appropriate wage reduction for the ugly. That's not even as much as what is is for women. I see no issue.


the thing to remember about ugly women is treat them decent. they are all pink on the inside and you never know how life will go
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter you have nothing to worry about. You are not young or good looking. You have a crappy job and you do not hang out with ****** Cheney.

You are a lucky man.

You are welcome.





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teedubbya Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
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dude. I had your back and you give me the finger?
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted:
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I'm sorry.... Sad
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted:
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Drafter is touchy since Vick got his new contract.
itsawaldo Offline
#11 Posted:
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"Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut


The story is collected in Vonnegut's "Welcome To The Monkey House"


"The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren't only
equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody
was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody
else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this
equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the
Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United
States Handicapper General."

"So everyone feels equal, pretty people have to wear bags over their
heads, quick, limber people have to wear weights on their legs or back,
and smart people have to have thought interrupter helmets so they can't
outsmart others. Harrison is handsome, agile and smart and keeps breaking
out to excel.."

"The story goes on to explain the various handicapping devices used to
bring everyone in society down to the physical and mental level of the
least common denominator. Lead weights are attached to the strong to weigh
them down, radio devices attached to the ears of the exceptionally smart,
to keep them from focusing on any one thought for too long. The beautiful
are forced to wear masks to make them less appealing, “so that no one,
seeing a free and graceful gesture or a pretty face, would feel like
something the cat drug in."

zitotczito Offline
#12 Posted:
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dpnewell wrote:
I've been to several C-Fests and dozens and dozens of herfs. Personally, I think most of us here would support this type of legislation.











Sarcasm


Finally my chance to sue someone.
Stinkdyr Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2009
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Can I getz me one o demz Handicrap parking tags to hang frum mize car mirror, since I'z ugleez and defor handicupped??

Think


And ifn youz sayz no, den dat just prooves yallz is racist against me.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted:
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Think
we'll just take away your driving privileges.... Frying pan
OldSchool Offline
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Send all the ugly people to live together in No. & So. Dakota, Montana, Idaho... You know those states we don't do anything with....
teedubbya Offline
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OldSchool wrote:
Send all the ugly people to live together in No. & So. Dakota, Montana, Idaho... You know those states we don't do anything with....


I can see right through you. You are just looking for a free ticket to Mt. Rushmore
wheelrite Offline
#17 Posted:
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OldSchool wrote:
Send all the ugly people to live together in No. & So. Dakota, Montana, Idaho... You know those states we don't do anything with....


They all already live in Green Bay...
rfenst Offline
#18 Posted:
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Disability Law
Do Ugly People Deserve Legal Protection? Economics Prof Offers Reasons for ADA Extension

An economics professor is making the case for legal protections against looks-challenged people.

Writing an op-ed for the New York Times, University of Texas professor Daniel Hamermesh cites findings that good-looking people make more money, find higher-earning spouses, and get better mortgage deals. One study shows American workers assessed as being in the bottom seventh in terms of looks earn about $230,000 less in a lifetime than similar workers in the top third of looks.

Hamermesh offers a solution: Protect ugliness with small extensions of the Americans With Disabilities Act. Ugly people could get help from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. “We could even have affirmative-action programs for the ugly,” he suggests.

How would legal decision-makers determine ugliness? It’s not that difficult, Hamermesh says. “For purposes of administering a law, we surely could agree on who is truly ugly, perhaps the worst-looking 1 or 2 percent of the population.”

Hamermesh goes on to cite a counterargument: Expanding rights to help another protected group would be a further drain on government resources, possibly reducing protections for other groups.

“You might reasonably disagree and argue for protecting all deserving groups,” Hamermesh says. “Either way, you shouldn’t be surprised to see the United States heading toward this new legal frontier.”



Let's blame the economists (not the lawyers)!!!

Seriously, almost 25 years ago, when was getting BA Degree in Economics and Finance, my most theoretical, number-crunching Economics classes involved a couple weeks studying how to create and use types of multi-string algebraic and statistical sampling models to prove large-scale gender and racial discrimination cases (and to determine which business variable(s) were causing or driving outcomes,profits and losses.

I remember that one of the equations we built/looked at must have had 20-25 different variables that could be isolated one at a time to determine if there was mathematical evidence of mass gender or race discrimination in certain industries and/or by fictional businesses with several hundred to thousands of employees. Pretty much the way the state and national gender and race gaps in pay are calculated, only no one had anything more than a calculator, pencil and paper (the professor had chalk and the blackboard, but didn't need a calculator because he could calculate anything in his head to the nth degree faster than we could punch the calculator keys).




(FWIW, the business school did have computers back then that did long-string economics equations, but we each had to have our own 5" (?) floppy drive and the machines took forever. Boy have we ever come a long way in such a short time!)
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted:
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The world needs ditch diggers too.... Mellow
Stinkdyr Offline
#20 Posted:
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Ugly peeps are already subsidized in Mass.
That is pretty much our whole welfare rat breeding colony here.


Brick wall
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted:
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Ugly peeps are already subsidized in Mass.
That is pretty much our whole welfare rat breeding colony here.


Brick wall




They're feeding their cheese to the rats..?? OhMyGod
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