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jetblasted Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 11:14 AM EST
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I'm willing to bet they have more in common than they think, but the Occupiers would probably be aghast at the notion. I can't say that thousands of people being arrested at Tea Party events have happened, though ... fog
wheelrite Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 11:16 AM EST
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Occupiers...

who dat is ?
jetblasted Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 11:21 AM EST
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Haven't you been watching the news? The "Occupy Wall Street" protests are spreading throughout the nation. 700 people were arrested yesterday for shutting down the Brooklyn bridge. Several major protest movements have cropped up around the nation in solidarity to the one in New York that has been going on for a week now.
wheelrite Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 11:22 AM EST
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oh yeah,,,

I thought they were callled Commies..
jetblasted Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 11:25 AM EST
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Hence my similar, but not really question ...
dubleuhb Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 11:38 AM EST
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Big differance is the people that say they are TEA Party supporters have jobs. The douches doing this other stuff don't and probably like it that way.
Whistlebritches Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:01 PM EST
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I'm thinking the only person the Occupiers have anything in common with is Rickamaven.....and his clan.


Ron
jetblasted Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:10 PM EST
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Well, the lack of jobs & sending jobs to Mexico (NAFTA?) are part of the protest. I laughed yesterday when Charlie Rangel showed up in support (?), to give an obvious political speach, and he was shouted down, that he wasn't welcomed, because he was part of the problem. LoL
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:14 PM EST
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There is a non-marxist element there.....but few in numbers. The bridge arrests were a joke, the cops corralled them to the bridge.
wheelrite Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:20 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
There is a non-marxist element there.....but few in numbers. The bridge arrests were a joke, the cops corralled them to the bridge.



Ron Paul !!!
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:23 PM EST
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There are some Ron Paul supporters there yes. But there not there campaigning for him, they're there protesting the fed res and big banks.
wheelrite Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:25 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
There are some Ron Paul supporters there yes. But there not there campaigning for him, they're there protesting the fed res and big banks.



in other words there were a bunch of Pot Heads there,,,
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:27 PM EST
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You went???
wheelrite Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:30 PM EST
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No,,,

but as we all know the Ron Paul is a Pot Head
TMCTLT Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:36 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
in other words there were a bunch of Pot Heads there,,,



Once again Wheel I'll take them all day long over those who drink regularly........
wheelrite Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:38 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Once again Wheel I'll take them all day long over those who drink regularly........



you must be a Cookie salesman...
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:42 PM EST
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O.k. Wheel....
wheelrite Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 12:46 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
O.k. Wheel....


what ?

Stoners eat a lot of cookies and Cocoa Puffs..
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 2:09 PM EST
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Release the hounds!
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 2:25 PM EST
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You google Ron Paul eats cocoa puffs now??
Brewha Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 6:21 PM EST
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Really – I’m still missing this one. I thought tea parties were what little girls did . . . . ?
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 6:39 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Really – I’m still missing this one. I thought tea parties were what little girls did . . . . ?



That is really what came to mind? Really?
wheelrite Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 7:08 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You google Ron Paul eats cocoa puffs now??



No,
don't be silly...

Ron Paul eats little boys...
fiddler898 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 7:28 PM EST
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Looks like this thread has met its logical conclusion.
TMCTLT Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 7:31 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
you must be a Cookie salesman...



Brownies Wheel.....Duh!!! :)
wheelrite Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Oct 2 2011, 7:37 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Brownies Wheel.....Duh!!! :)


what was I thinking ???d'oh!
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#27 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:58 AM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Looks like this thread has met its logical conclusion.

Yep. Nothing like a little reductio ad absurdum to resolve a political argument.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 7:13 AM EST
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Tea Party events usually involve filling out the proper paperwork..renting port-o-lets...setting up stages and audio/light equipment. You know...organized and legal like with a non-violent approach.

The "Occupiers" are akin to the WTO protesters. They just want anarchy in the streets. They're mad but don't know what to do but wear goofy clothes, and scream in the wind while they break laws.

See the difference now? No?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSf7JzpD7kg

Occupiers



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxchVLUU5fI

Tea Party
Gene363 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 9:58 AM EST
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Stupid hippies were allowed breed and have stupid hippie kids.
cbc812 Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 2:30 PM EST
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"Tea Party events usually involve filling out the proper paperwork..renting port-o-lets...setting up stages and audio/light equipment."

That's pretty easy to do when your movement is sponsored by billionaires.

I can see how so many would object to the Occupiers. The notion that there's anything wrong with pay-to-play politics and our "representatives" doing the bidding of their corporate benefactors rather than what is good for the country is absurd. These people are obviously morons and America haters.

It's good to see that there are plenty of regular Americans still ready to support the status quo. After all, what is good for corporate executives and billionaires is obviously good for normal folks as well. Nothing is more American or better for the country than ensuring that all of our politicians continue to work for whoever pays them the most. Let the graft continue, and may God bless America!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 2:48 PM EST
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cbc812 wrote:
That's pretty easy to do when your movement is sponsored by billionaires.



When you have something to say that's valid you'll want a stage to do it on.

Those losers that got arrested on the bridge had nothing to say. They want to rail on Wall Street. Good luck. They have NO CLUE what they want because if they did they'd have their crap together. They'd be taking on the Federal Reserve!

Instead what do they do? Jump on a bridge screaming Obama and try to shut down a bridge...what did you think they were going to do? Let them continue? Please...they broke the law and deserve what they get. It's not a "billionaire" thing...it's a lawful thing.

Don't confuse the truth with your petty BS. One is organized with a message. The other is mass chaos with a thousand different voices.

Keep on drinking the lib kool-aid!
cbc812 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:03 PM EST
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"One is organized with a message"

Oh, really? What would that message be? Or more appropriately, what has it become?

The Tea Party movement began with good ideas and noble intent but has quickly become co-opted by the forces that prize business as usual and their dollars' influence over our "leaders" above all else. If the "lib kool-aid" comment isn't enough to prove your ignorance, your convenient avoidance of this fact is.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-with-secret-iran-sales.html
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:09 PM EST
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The only difference between the Koch bros and G. Soros is he hates america and makes them look like paupers.

Gotta have something to be scared of I suppose.

I like what the occupiers are doing actually I just don't agree with the Marxist factions among them. The police have been good and bad with them.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:24 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The only difference between the Koch bros and G. Soros is he hates america and makes them look like paupers.

Gotta have something to be scared of I suppose.

I like what the occupiers are doing actually I just don't agree with the Marxist factions among them. The police have been good and bad with them.



Actually Soros was a Nazi too...ratted on others so he could make his billions. So there's more than ONE difference...but I digress...the Koch Brothers also have NEVER co-opted the destruction of a nation's economy either so they've got that as well.

Capitalism...its the ONLY system that works.
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#35 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:25 PM EST
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cbc812 wrote:
"One is organized with a message"

Oh, really? What would that message be? Or more appropriately, what has it become?

The Tea Party movement began with good ideas and noble intent but has quickly become co-opted by the forces that prize business as usual and their dollars' influence over our "leaders" above all else. If the "lib kool-aid" comment isn't enough to prove your ignorance, your convenient avoidance of this fact is.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-with-secret-iran-sales.html



Spoken like the bitter lib you really are.

It's not my fault that your idol betrayed you. It's not my fault that you still hold dear the Communist Manifesto. It's also not my fault that you choose to STILL defend The One when America is crumbling.

Nice try.
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#36 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:27 PM EST
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ZRX - I feel very much the same way. What would be awesome is if the Occupiers and Tea Party could shed the shackles of those who would (or do) co-opt them as proxies to perpetuate pay-to-play and have the movements join forces. Even the notion is enough to scare the living $hit out of Congress and their owners.

I walked past the park every day for the first week of protests on my way to work, and it was painful. While they don't have a unified message, I agree wholeheartedly with the general idea behind the "occupation" - getting the money out of politics. Most of the egregious political mudfights here and among us proles are partisan scraps thrown out to keep us bickering while the big boys rape us.

But to walk by and see chanting, shirtless hippies dancing in drum circles made me cringe and made my heart break for the many better-organized, smart people assembling there.

In any event, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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#37 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:30 PM EST
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cbc812 wrote:
But to walk by and see chanting, shirtless hippies dancing in drum circles made me cringe and made my heart break for the many better-organized, smart people assembling there.

In any event, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.



So it's EXACTLY the way I described it.

No, it will not be interesting. They will show their collective ass. They will reveal the puppetmasters and they will be arrested.

Nothing interesting to see at all.
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#38 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:34 PM EST
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"Spoken like the bitter lib you really are.

It's not my fault that your idol betrayed you. It's not my fault that you still hold dear the Communist Manifesto. It's also not my fault that you choose to STILL defend The One when America is crumbling."

This would be funny if it wasn't so full of inaccuracies, wrongful assumptions, and brainless jingoisms.

Knowing how to copy and paste links and toss out right-wing slang doesn't make you an authority on anything. It is telling that you choose to avoid answering any of the questions or addressing any of the substance of my post.

Maybe you should take a look at your anger and why it drives you to act like an anti-intellectual fool rather than obsessing on our crappy president and the "liberal" bogeyman. Perhaps then you could make a coherent argument. Because for now, what you post here is basicaly fanatical, partisan noise. Get a grip.
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#39 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:35 PM EST
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I agree, it very well may take that to break our one party rule. I would say in regards to the tea party they have no "leader" so I think that helps keep some level of purity no matter who "contributes" .

Seeing ****** Army involved with them bugs me more than Koch $.

I live in Oregon so I'm used to smelly hippies everywhere......
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#40 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:42 PM EST
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"So it's EXACTLY the way I described it.

No, it will not be interesting. They will show their collective ass. They will reveal the puppetmasters and they will be arrested.

Nothing interesting to see at all."

Um, no. The idiot hippies/anarchists/Marxists are vastly outnumbered by what appear to be smart, well mannered people from across the dempgraphic spectrum who are there out of genuine concern and anger about how our democracy is for sale. Unfortunately, the hippies and crazies are the ones who will get the media attention, because the same people that own the politicians oversee the news coverage these guys get.

Although I'm sure you know exactly what is going on there from the right wing news feeds you get down there in heaven's waiting room. I couldn't have any idea what's going on there walking past the park every day.

You're very funny.
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#41 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:52 PM EST
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cbc812 wrote:
"Spoken like the bitter lib you really are.

It's not my fault that your idol betrayed you. It's not my fault that you still hold dear the Communist Manifesto. It's also not my fault that you choose to STILL defend The One when America is crumbling."

This would be funny if it wasn't so full of inaccuracies, wrongful assumptions, and brainless jingoisms.

Knowing how to copy and paste links and toss out right-wing slang doesn't make you an authority on anything. It is telling that you choose to avoid answering any of the questions or addressing any of the substance of my post.

Maybe you should take a look at your anger and why it drives you to act like an anti-intellectual fool rather than obsessing on our crappy president and the "liberal" bogeyman. Perhaps then you could make a coherent argument. Because for now, what you post here is basicaly fanatical, partisan noise. Get a grip.



What questions?

As far as anger...you've got your head so far up your own ass with that guess. Not making any arguments either, they're rather steeped in facts.

"Get a grip"...says you. That's hysterical. Your fantasyland is crashing down all around you as you cry for the hippies that are pissed about all the bailouts and buyouts on Wall Street. They're coming for YOU! You need a grip. On REALITY!

Run CBC Run!
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#42 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 3:54 PM EST
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cbc812 wrote:
"So it's EXACTLY the way I described it.

No, it will not be interesting. They will show their collective ass. They will reveal the puppetmasters and they will be arrested.

Nothing interesting to see at all."

Um, no. The idiot hippies/anarchists/Marxists are vastly outnumbered by what appear to be smart, well mannered people from across the dempgraphic spectrum who are there out of genuine concern and anger about how our democracy is for sale. Unfortunately, the hippies and crazies are the ones who will get the media attention, because the same people that own the politicians oversee the news coverage these guys get.

Although I'm sure you know exactly what is going on there from the right wing news feeds you get down there in heaven's waiting room. I couldn't have any idea what's going on there walking past the park every day.

You're very funny.




See the smart well mannered ones like yourself won't make the news. They're surrounded by useful idiots.

Yeah, I'm watching all of this on tv...riiight.

You described it EXACTLY the way I did waaay back up there but you're going to what say I'm wrong now?

You're either an idiot or a liar.
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#43 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 4:03 PM EST
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"As far as anger...you've got your head so far up your own ass with that guess. Not making any arguments either, they're rather steeped in facts."

Okay - here's a pointed question - do you support unfettered financial access to politicians by anyone with $$$? Are you happy that any legislation that actually gets through Washington's cesspool is bought and paid for? Why do you object so strongly to a protest, that by all accounts, has loosely coalesced around the notion that our government represents not the people but the moneyed/connected few? You think this is okay?

See if you can sprinkle an answer or two among your partisan slogans and personal insults.
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#44 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 4:07 PM EST
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"They're surrounded by useful idiots."

In light of your incredibly concise and convincing posts above, your labeling of anyone as a "useful idiot" is the funniest thing I've seen or heard in a very long time. Thanks for the laughs.

Now back to gnashing your teeth about the Kenyan Muslim.

Have fun, sparky!
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#45 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 4:50 PM EST
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I think we can evaluate this debate by the number of ad hominem remarks... when facts fail you, insults will suffice.
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#46 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 8:36 PM EST
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What was the debate about and who won?

The way I see it, we globalists still control everything and we own Obama.
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#47 Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011, 8:39 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
What was the debate about and who won?

The way I see it, we globalists still control everything and we own Obama.


The EU is toast..

The Crimean war will resume momentarily
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#48 Posted: Tue, Oct 4 2011, 12:37 AM EST
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cbc812 wrote:
Okay - here's a pointed question - do you support unfettered financial access to politicians by anyone with $$$? Are you happy that any legislation that actually gets through Washington's cesspool is bought and paid for? Why do you object so strongly to a protest, that by all accounts, has loosely coalesced around the notion that our government represents not the people but the moneyed/connected few? You think this is okay?

See if you can sprinkle an answer or two among your partisan slogans and personal insults.



Their ilegal "rally" isn't about campaign finance or the reform of it. Am I happy about it? No. I object to their protest because it's not legal.
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#49 Posted: Tue, Oct 4 2011, 5:49 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I object to their protest because it's not legal.


Overruled . . . . .
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#50 Posted: Wed, Oct 5 2011, 5:55 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Overruled . . . . .



Sustained...x700!

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1002/Wall-Street-protests-lead-to-hundreds-of-arrests-on-Brooklyn-Bridge-VIDEO
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