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FuzzNJ Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:28 AM EST
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Story:

http://www.presstelegram.com/breakingnews/ci_19097680

SEAL BEACH — The peace of this quiet seaside community was shattered Wednesday when eight people were killed and one was injured in a shooting at a hair salon.

It was the deadliest shooting in Orange County history.

Police had a single suspect in custody, 42-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai of Huntington Beach, identified by witnesses and hair salon employees as the ex-husband of one of the salon employees.

Picture of his vehicle. Note the licence plate cover.

http://www.presstelegram.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=4017143

Shame on you
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:31 AM EST
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damn.... I guess that's all the proof I need.... Sad
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:37 AM EST
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so I guess hating all Muslims is justified now too..... Mellow
FuzzNJ Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:38 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
damn.... I guess that's all the proof I need.... Sad


Me too. I've adopted the logic used by many on this board. If there is one communist protester at OWS, then they all are, so all teabaggers are future mass murderers and should be dealt with.
dpnewell Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:38 AM EST
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I have a headline for you

Pol Pot, Devout Atheist, Responsible For The Murder of Over 2,000,000!

Really reaching, aren't we, oh Snickerdoodle one.

Hey, I have a fun project for you. Try to determine how many of those who committed murder in our inner cities this year supported and voted for Obama. I'm guessing the vast majority.
FuzzNJ Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:39 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
so I guess hating all Muslims is justified now too..... Mellow


If the 'rights' logic is to be taken as correct, I guess so. Only it would also include Christians as well for the same reason. Damn, we're all screwed.
FuzzNJ Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:42 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
I have a headline for you

Pol Pot, Devout Atheist, Responsible For The Murder of Over 2,000,000!

Really reaching, aren't we, oh Snickerdoodle one.

Hey, I have a fun project for you. Try to determine how many of those who committed murder in our inner cities this year supported and voted for Obama. I'm guessing the vast majority.


Thanks for catching the idiocy of your own logic. And you actually think criminals and murderers are the kind of people who take the time to vote? I'm inclined to think not that much. Hell, hardly anyone votes anyway.
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:43 AM EST
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I heard Acorn recruited mostly criminals and murderers to vote.... and gave them ciggs and stuff.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:47 AM EST
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Only a complete idiot like Snickerdoodle would believe this bull.

"The gunman appeared to have worn body armor and had several guns, police and witnesses said.

Police did not release a motive for the shooting. However, court records and acquaintances said he and his ex-wife, Michelle Fournier Dekraai, of Huntington Beach, who worked at the salon as a licensed cosmetologist, had been locked in a bitter custody battle over their son since he filed for divorce in 2007.

It was unclear whether Fournier was among those killed.

Dekraai was seeking full custody but a court-ordered review recommended against that, John Cate Jr., the attorney for Michelle Dekraai, told the Orange County Register.

Dekraai appeared for a court hearing in the case on Tuesday but it was merely a scheduling meeting, Cate said.

"Obviously, I saw no indication" that he was violent, the attorney said.

Lydia Sosa, a hairstylist who left two years ago to work at a new business with her friend, said the gunman's ex-wife spoke often of her relationship problems.

"They had been having bitter problems for years and I guess he just went in there and started shooting," Sosa said."


See Snickerdoodle and his ilk NEED to "cleanse" themselves by making any far reaching attempt they can to justify their rationale and what their leadership are doing.

Nice try, but like EVERYTHING else you've ever done...it falls short.

Just point and laugh or feel sorry for his worthlessness. Either way, he's got laundry to catch up on and a dinner to make for Ms. Snickerdoodles.
FuzzNJ Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:49 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Acorn recruited mostly criminals and murderers to vote.... and gave them ciggs and stuff.... Mellow


Yeah, you probably did, but that would be wrong. There were some people who volunteered for Acorn or worked for them temporarily who tried to register people who weren't eligible to vote because they were paid for how many people they registered. Probably a bad idea because it leads to what happened, bogus people. But those people didn't actually vote and weren't even registered to vote as they were weeded out.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:50 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Yeah, you probably did, but that would be wrong. There were some people who volunteered for Acorn or worked for them temporarily who tried to register people who weren't eligible to vote because they were paid for how many people they registered. Probably a bad idea because it leads to what happened, bogus people. But those people didn't actually vote and weren't even registered to vote as they were weeded out.



BANG BANG.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:51 AM EST
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Pathetic.
FuzzNJ Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:51 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Only a complete idiot like Snickerdoodle would believe this bull.

"The gunman appeared to have worn body armor and had several guns, police and witnesses said.

Police did not release a motive for the shooting. However, court records and acquaintances said he and his ex-wife, Michelle Fournier Dekraai, of Huntington Beach, who worked at the salon as a licensed cosmetologist, had been locked in a bitter custody battle over their son since he filed for divorce in 2007.

It was unclear whether Fournier was among those killed.

Dekraai was seeking full custody but a court-ordered review recommended against that, John Cate Jr., the attorney for Michelle Dekraai, told the Orange County Register.

Dekraai appeared for a court hearing in the case on Tuesday but it was merely a scheduling meeting, Cate said.

"Obviously, I saw no indication" that he was violent, the attorney said.

Lydia Sosa, a hairstylist who left two years ago to work at a new business with her friend, said the gunman's ex-wife spoke often of her relationship problems.

"They had been having bitter problems for years and I guess he just went in there and started shooting," Sosa said."


See Snickerdoodle and his ilk NEED to "cleanse" themselves by making any far reaching attempt they can to justify their rationale and what their leadership are doing.

Nice try, but like EVERYTHING else you've ever done...it falls short.

Just point and laugh or feel sorry for his worthlessness. Either way, he's got laundry to catch up on and a dinner to make for Ms. Snickerdoodles.



What did I say that you think was wrong? He appears to have been a teabagger and he killed 8 people. True things, so I'm right on target. Your critique is falling way short.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:56 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
What did I say that you think was wrong? He appears to have been a teabagger and he killed 8 people. True things, so I'm right on target. Your critique is falling way short.



The entire title for starters.

You want to stir the pot? Get the facts. This appears to be motivated by a custody battle. Nothing political.

You're an idiot. THAT'S a fact!
FuzzNJ Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 10:06 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
The entire title for starters.

You want to stir the pot? Get the facts. This appears to be motivated by a custody battle. Nothing political.

You're an idiot. THAT'S a fact!


And where did I say the motive was political? I said he had a tea party licence plate cover so he appears to be a teabagger. Saying that it was political was your assumption, not mine, so you must be the idiot.

Besides, no matter what the motive, killing 8 people over a custody battle shows a severe lack of morals don't you think? So it's logical to say that this teabagger has no morals or character or empathy for others and had a too easy access to guns. He probably suffered from some mental problems that someone who thinks they did everything by themselves by pulling up their bootstraps so they didn't need help from anyone and went off the deep end.
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#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 10:14 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Acorn recruited mostly criminals and murderers to vote.... and gave them ciggs and stuff.... Mellow


No ciggs for Brewha . . . . Sad Sad
FuzzNJ Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 3:27 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
No ciggs for Brewha . . . . Sad Sad


Or stuff.
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 3:39 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
And where did I say the motive was political? I said he had a tea party licence plate cover so he appears to be a teabagger. Saying that it was political was your assumption, not mine, so you must be the idiot.
.



Fuzz,
good job stirring the pot, but you can't deny your intent.

Be a man and admit your intent was to point fingers at the tea party. Why deny it?

It's one thing to debate an issue, but it's frustrating when the other person lies in an attempt to prove the other wrong. Your agenda here was entirely polical.
FuzzNJ Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:10 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Fuzz,
good job stirring the pot, but you can't deny your intent.

Be a man and admit your intent was to point fingers at the tea party. Why deny it?

It's one thing to debate an issue, but it's frustrating when the other person lies in an attempt to prove the other wrong. Your agenda here was entirely polical.


A mind reader now? I can honestly say and swear on the life of my children that the post was in no way polical.
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:16 PM EST
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So you don't respect life either.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:18 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
A mind reader now? I can honestly say and swear on the life of my children that the post was in no way polical.



Think Think
then why did you post it in the Political forum..??

but I heard the Tea Party took away his card and stuff so it's all good now anyway.... Mellow
FuzzNJ Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:26 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Think Think
then why did you post it in the Political forum..??

but I heard the Tea Party took away his card and stuff so it's all good now anyway.... Mellow


Because there wasn't a polical forum?
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:32 PM EST
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LOL
dpnewell Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:50 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
No ciggs for Brewha . . . . Sad Sad


Poor Brewha.
dpnewell Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:56 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Thanks for catching the idiocy of your own logic. And you actually think criminals and murderers are the kind of people who take the time to vote? I'm inclined to think not that much. Hell, hardly anyone votes anyway.


So, if we follow the logic of your reply, this murderer could not be a tea party member, as criminals and murderers are not the kind of people who take the time to vote (your words). Why would he be in a political movement if he doesn’t vote? Sometimes cookieboy, you're just too easy.
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#26 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:07 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So it's logical to say that this teabagger has no morals or character or empathy for others and had a too easy access to guns. He probably suffered from some mental problems that someone who thinks they did everything by themselves by pulling up their bootstraps so they didn't need help from anyone and went off the deep end.


Are you insane? California has the most repressive, restrictive guns laws in the nation. All good liberals know that restrictive gun laws prevent crime, so this crime really didn't happen, as California's draconian gun laws prevented it. Oh, and the same gun laws prevent folks with mental problems from obtaining guns, so this guy couldn’t have had a mental disorder either.
FuzzNJ Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:07 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
So, if we follow the logic of your reply, this murderer could not be a tea party member, as criminals and murderers are not the kind of people who take the time to vote (your words). Why would he be in a political movement if he doesn’t vote? Sometimes cookieboy, you're just too easy.




That would follow logically had this guy not had tea party stuff not prominently displayed on his truck.

Besides, I didn't say anything earlier, but we all know what you mean by 'inner city' criminals and murderers voting for Obama, so don't try to hide 'black person', 'jigaboo' or 'n*gger' behind the euphemism 'inner city criminal'. It's just as racist only you think it makes you look like an impartial observer.
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:18 PM EST
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Why do you hate black people fuzzy? Ol democrat tradition I know........

Too bad moonbeam just outlawed open carry, could have dissuaded the psycho. Or having a reasonable chance at concealed carry in kookifornia.
FuzzNJ Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:22 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Are you insane? California has the most repressive, restrictive guns laws in the nation. All good liberals know that restrictive gun laws prevent crime, so this crime really didn't happen, as California's draconian gun laws prevented it. Oh, and the same gun laws prevent folks with mental problems from obtaining guns, so this guy couldn’t have had a mental disorder either.


I may be insane, but that has nothing to do with this. NJ has some of the strictest gun laws too and I could get a gun in less than an hour if I wanted to. What about drug laws? I would bet you that the average high school kid could get an oz of pot faster than he/she could get a bottle of vodka.

and lmao at the couldn't have had a mental disorder. You think that everyone with a mental disorder has been diagnosed properly?

It's just pathetic and funny that when the 'logic' you guys on the 'right' use to demonize us liberals is used against you you get all huffy and pissed off and don't realize that I'm only doing it to point out your blatant hypocrisy.
FuzzNJ Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:23 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Why do you hate black people fuzzy? Ol democrat tradition I know........


Stupid, even for you.
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#31 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:26 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
And where did I say the motive was political? I said he had a tea party licence plate cover so he appears to be a teabagger. Saying that it was political was your assumption, not mine, so you must be the idiot.


If that were true, your headline would have been "Man kills 8 in shooting rampage".
FuzzNJ Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 5:42 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
If that were true, your headline would have been "Man kills 8 in shooting rampage".



http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/mom-kills-12-year-old-daughter-and-self-in-midtown-tulsa

Mom kills 12-year-old daughter and self in midtown Tulsa

I guess you can determine motive from that headline as well?
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#33 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 6:24 PM EST
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Does this one show party affiliation Cuz I don't see it.......

I'd call you a pot or kettle but then you might hate yourself.
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#34 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 6:36 PM EST
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The teabaggers should be sent to the re-education camps before they kill us all.

Obama needs to make this happen now! OCCUPY the camps!
FuzzNJ Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 6:36 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Does this one show party affiliation Cuz I don't see it.......

I'd call you a pot or kettle but then you might hate yourself.


Party affiliation shows motive? Nonsense.

Party affiliation strong enough to display it publicly on your automobile has a high likelihood of predicting a world view, general attitude toward others and quite possibly a world view. But motive? Hardly.
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#36 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 6:40 PM EST
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You're really dense sometimes.
FuzzNJ Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 6:46 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You're really dense sometimes.


I'm sure of that, but in this particular instance I'm not. I posted this just the way I intended, it got the responses I expected and the illogical ways you guys attempt to justify your similar posts yet this one is so way different and out of bounds claiming I am saying things I actually didn't say. This entire thread could have been predicted and written ahead of time it's so predictable.
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#38 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 7:56 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I may be insane, but that has nothing to do with this. NJ has some of the strictest gun laws too and I could get a gun in less than an hour if I wanted to. What about drug laws? I would bet you that the average high school kid could get an oz of pot faster than he/she could get a bottle of vodka.

and lmao at the couldn't have had a mental disorder. You think that everyone with a mental disorder has been diagnosed properly?



Ever heard of sarcasm? Anyone with even a hint of rational thinking knows that gun laws can never prevent someone bent on committing a crime or murder from acquiring a weapon. You just admitted it in your reply, yet Liberals preach day in and day out that stronger gun laws are needed to prevent crime and murder. They know they don't, yet they still use the argument to try and rationalize the call for more and more gun laws. Sounds like insanity to me.

Oh, and the mental disorder thing? Sarcasm once again. Personally, I feel that anyone who takes an innocent human life must have some degree of mental illness.
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#39 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 7:59 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:

Besides, I didn't say anything earlier, but we all know what you mean by 'inner city' criminals and murderers voting for Obama, so don't try to hide 'black person', 'jigaboo' or 'n*gger' behind the euphemism 'inner city criminal'. It's just as racist only you think it makes you look like an impartial observer.


Do you know my race? Do you know the race of my son-in-laws whom I've accepted into my family? Do you know the race of my grandchildren whom I love dearly? You know nothing.
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#40 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 8:02 PM EST
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You're right Fuzzy. You are completely predictable.

We still love you for what you are and accept you warts and all.
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#41 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 8:04 PM EST
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Come to Wyoming folks, you don't need a permit to carry a gun here. Way less crime too, Imagine that, Lots of teabaggers too,as this wingnut calls us. More guns less crime, but then that is just way to logical for gun law advocates. Well I'm to enjoy my elk steak.......................
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#42 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 8:53 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Do you know my race?


Yes, but doesn't matter.

dpnewell wrote:

Do you know the race of my son-in-laws whom I've accepted into my family? Do you know the race of my grandchildren whom I love dearly?


No, don't care and doesn't matter.
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#43 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 8:57 PM EST
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leftyposthole wrote:
Come to Wyoming folks, you don't need a permit to carry a gun here. Way less crime too, Imagine that, Lots of teabaggers too,as this wingnut calls us. More guns less crime, but then that is just way to logical for gun law advocates. Well I'm to enjoy my elk steak.......................


Way less everything, including people. You guys have like what, 5 people per square mile? NJ has over 1,000 per square mile. You probably have more cows than people so crime wouldn't be a problem unless moo-cows started a gang.
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#44 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 9:29 PM EST
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Jersey women look like cows...

Hell,they named a whole breed of cattle afer the women in New Jersey,,,
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#45 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 10:21 PM EST
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I think it's funny how fuzz denies this post is political in nature.

Funny.
And sad.

He's been hanging with the occupiers too long. He's forgotten his message.
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#46 Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 10:22 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Jersey women look like cows...

,,,


Yeah.
Cows with big hair.
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#47 Posted: Fri, Oct 14 2011, 3:23 AM EST
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Quote:
Tea Party member kills 8 in shooting rampage


FuzzNJ wrote:
Story:

http://www.presstelegram.com/breakingnews/ci_19097680

SEAL BEACH — The peace of this quiet seaside community was shattered Wednesday when eight people were killed and one was injured in a shooting at a hair salon.

It was the deadliest shooting in Orange County history.

Police had a single suspect in custody, 42-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai of Huntington Beach, identified by witnesses and hair salon employees as the ex-husband of one of the salon employees.

Picture of his vehicle. Note the licence plate cover.

http://www.presstelegram.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=4017143

Shame on you


Quote:
A mind reader now? I can honestly say and swear on the life of my children that the post was in no way polical.


Ding ding ding ding
We have a winner!
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#48 Posted: Fri, Oct 14 2011, 6:14 AM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Jersey women look like cows...

Hell,they named a whole breed of cattle afer the women in New Jersey,,,



Snookie?whip
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#49 Posted: Fri, Oct 14 2011, 6:16 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
That would follow logically had this guy not had tea party stuff not prominently displayed on his truck.

Besides, I didn't say anything earlier, but we all know what you mean by 'inner city' criminals and murderers voting for Obama, so don't try to hide 'black person', 'jigaboo' or 'n*gger' behind the euphemism 'inner city criminal'. It's just as racist only you think it makes you look like an impartial observer.





BANG BANG!
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#50 Posted: Fri, Oct 14 2011, 2:35 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Hey, I have a fun project for you. Try to determine how many of those who committed murder in our inner cities this year supported and voted for Obama. I'm guessing the vast majority.


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