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Fannie & Freddie Execs get HUGE Bonuses,,,,, Again,,,
wheelrite Offline
#1 Posted:
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The Federal Housing Finance Agency, the government regulator for Fannie and Freddie, approved $12.79 million in bonus pay after 10 executives from the two government-sponsored corporations last year met modest performance targets tied to modifying mortgages in jeopardy of foreclosure.


The executives got the bonuses about two years after the federally backed mortgage giants received nearly $170 billion in taxpayer bailouts — and despite pledges by FHFA, the office tasked with keeping them solvent, that it would adjust the level of CEO-level pay after critics slammed huge compensation packages paid out to former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines and others.

Securities and Exchange Commission documents show that Ed Haldeman, who announced last week that he is stepping down as Freddie Mac’s CEO, received a base salary of $900,000 last year yet took home an additional $2.3 million in bonus pay. Records show other Fannie and Freddie executives got similar Wall Street-style compensation packages; Fannie Mae CEO Michael Williams, for example, got $2.37 million in performance bonuses.

Including Haldeman, the top five officers at Freddie banked a combined $6.46 million in performance pay alone last year, though a second bonus installment for 2010 has yet to be reported to the SEC, according to agency records. Williams and others at Fannie pocketed $6.33 million in incentives for what SEC records describe as meeting the primary goal of providing “liquidity, stability and affordability” to the national market.

“Freddie Mac has done a considerable amount on behalf of the American taxpayers


where are the Occupiers?


rfenst Offline
#2 Posted:
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I have no problem paying them what they could otherwise earn in the marketplace (opportunity cost). I have no problem paying their performance bonuses if the benchmarks were established in advance. I wonder how much they could earn elsewhere. I wonder what those benchmarks were...
MACS Offline
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rfenst wrote:
I have no problem paying them what they could otherwise earn in the marketplace (opportunity cost). I have no problem paying their performance bonuses if the benchmarks were established in advance. I wonder how much they could earn elsewhere. I wonder what those benchmarks were...


If they could earn more elsewhere, don't you think they'd have "bailed" by now? Anxious
tailgater Offline
#4 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I have no problem paying them what they could otherwise earn in the marketplace (opportunity cost). I have no problem paying their performance bonuses if the benchmarks were established in advance. I wonder how much they could earn elsewhere. I wonder what those benchmarks were...



For years, people who worked for the government at any level (fed, state or local) did so with the knowledge that they'd make less money yearly, but would benefit from job security and a great pension.

At what point in time did we decide that they should earn the same (or more) yet still benefit from the pensions and healthcare that only gubment can provide?

F*ck them.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted:
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Macs and Tail get it.


There's a clear reason why I was opposed to ANY bail out.


You're seeing the reasons every day!
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
If they could earn more elsewhere, don't you think they'd have "bailed" by now? Anxious


not everyone works the job that can earn them the most money.
I don't. I don't think you do either.
wheelrite Offline
#7 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
not everyone works the job that can earn them the most money.
I don't. I don't think you do either.


why not ?
tailgater Offline
#8 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
not everyone works the job that can earn them the most money.
I don't. I don't think you do either.


Yeah.
Some like the position because it wins favor with their sexy lover Barney Frank...
pdxstogieman Offline
#9 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Yeah.
Some like the position because it wins favor with their sexy lover Barney Frank...


More cogent political commentary based on vapor from a guy who exhibits the reasoning skills of an armadillo.
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted:
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pdxstogieman wrote:
More cogent political commentary based on vapor from a guy who exhibits the reasoning skills of an armadillo.


More name calling.
I think you've got a crush on me.

rfenst Offline
#11 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Yeah.
Some like the position because it wins favor with their sexy lover Barney Frank...




Given CBid's anti-homosexuality fervor, I don't think it was wise to mention "positions" and "sexy lover Barney Frank" in one sentence. It might leave others with the impression you know just a little to much for their comfort...
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Given CBid's anti-homosexuality fervor, I don't think it was wise to mention "positions" and "sexy lover Barney Frank" in one sentence. It might leave others with the impression you know just a little to much for their comfort...


Perception is reality.

Big boy.Wink
Stinkdyr Offline
#13 Posted:
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End Welfare Breeding.......and get the gubment out of welfare housing too.


it is all unsustainable....hmmmmmmkay?
pgje51 Offline
#14 Posted:
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We get the government that we tolerate.
HockeyDad Offline
#15 Posted:
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....and we get it good and hard!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Freddie Mac posts loss, seeks $6 bn lifeline

AFP – Thu, Nov 3, 2011

The US government-seized mortgage lender Freddie Mac on Thursday reported another losing quarter, and said it needs $6.0 billion from the government to keep it afloat.

Freddie Mac said it had a net loss of $4.4 billion for the third quarter, compared with a $2.1 billion loss in the year-ago quarter.

The McLean, Virginia-based firm said the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), which oversees both Freddie and its larger sister company Fannie Mae, would ask the Treasury for $6.0 billion to wipe out its deficit.
The new cash injection would cover both accumulated losses and a $1.6 billion quarterly dividend payment it has to pay to the Treasury.

The new money would bring to $72.2 billion in taxpayer funds the government has pumped into the firm since it was nationalized in September 2008.

The federal government took over Freddie and Fannie as they faced bankruptcy amid the financial meltdown whose epicenter was the US housing market. The FHFA was named their conservator.

"The weak labor market and fragile economy continue to weigh heavily on the single-family market, causing many potential buyers to sit on the sidelines or opt to rent despite high affordability and record-low mortgage rates," Freddie Mac's chief executive, Charles Haldeman, said in the statement.

"Looking ahead, we expect the tepid recovery to continue to put downward pressure on house prices into early next year."

Haldeman announced in October that he wants to step down next year, after a transition period with a successor.
Freddie Mac, which the government wants to dismantle, along with Fannie Mae, by 2018, has been able to only slowly chip away at its debt pile.

Total debt stood at $2.16 trillion on September 30, compared with $2.18 trillion on June 30.

Since its nationalization, Freddie has posted only one quarter of profit: $676 million in the first quarter of 2011.
Separately, the company said the average rate on a 30-year fixed mortgage plunged to a near-record low of 4.00 percent Thursday from 4.10 percent a week ago "as investors rushed to US Treasury bonds amid concerns over the European debt market."

The 4.00 percent rate was the second-lowest since the popular 30-year mortgage rate hit a record average low of 3.94 percent on October 6, it said.






When does the "doctor" make the choice to amputate? When does "too big to fail" become too big of a liability? What private business would STILL be in business if it operated like this?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Sorry...it's not 6 BILLION dollars...it's 7.8 BILLION!!!


Fannie Mae loss widens, asks taxpayers for $7.8B
By DEREK KRAVITZ

WASHINGTON (AP) — Mortgage giant Fannie Mae is asking the federal government for $7.8 billion in aid to covers its losses in the July-September quarter.

The government-controlled company said Tuesday that it lost $7.6 billion in the third quarter. Low mortgage rates reduced profits and declining home prices caused more defaults on loans it had guaranteed.

The government rescued Fannie Mae and sibling company Freddie Mac in September 2008 to cover their losses on soured mortgage loans. Since then, a federal regulator has controlled their financial decisions.

Taxpayers have spent about $169 billion to rescue Fannie and Freddie, the most expensive bailout of the 2008 financial crisis. The government estimates that figure could reach up $220 billion to support the companies through 2014 after subtracting dividend payments.

Fannie has received $112.6 billion so far from the Treasury Department, the most expensive bailout of a single company.

Michael Williams, Fannie's president and CEO, said Fannie's losses are increasing for two reasons: Some homeowners are paying less interest after refinancing at historically low mortgage rates; others are defaulting on their mortgages.

"Despite these challenges, we are making solid progress," he said. For example, Fannie's rate of homeowners who are late on their monthly mortgage payments by 90 days or more has decreased each quarter since the beginning of 2010, he said.

When property values drop, homeowners default, either because they are unable to afford the payments or because they owe more than the property is worth. Because of the guarantees, Fannie and Freddie must pay for the losses.

Fannie said lower mortgage rates contributed to $4.5 billion in quarterly losses. While those losses are large, they are temporary and should ease in future earnings reports, said Mahesh Swaminathan, mortgage strategist at Credit Suisse.

"They are accounting losses on their books rather than economic losses," he said.

Fannie's July-September loss attributable to common shareholders works out to $1.32 per share. It takes into account $2.5 billion in dividend payments to the government. That compares with a loss of $3.5 billion, or 61 cents per share, in the third quarter of 2010.

Last week, Freddie requested $6 billion in extra aid — the largest request since April 2010 — after it reported losing $6 billion in the third quarter.

Washington-based Fannie and McLean, Va.-based Freddie own or guarantee about half of all mortgages in the U.S., or nearly 31 million home loans. Along with other federal agencies, they backed nearly 90 percent of new mortgages over the past year.

Fannie and Freddie buy home loans from banks and other lenders, package them with bonds with a guarantee against default and sell them to investors around the world. The companies nearly folded three years ago because of big losses on risky mortgages they purchased.

The Obama administration unveiled a plan earlier this year to slowly dissolve the two mortgage giants. The aim is to shrink the government's role in the mortgage system, remaking decades of federal policy aimed at getting Americans to buy homes. It would also probably make home loans more expensive.

Exactly how far the government's role in mortgage lending would be reduced was left to Congress to decide. But all three options the administration presented would create a housing finance system that relies far more on private money.



borndead1 Offline
#18 Posted:
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Can't they just print up a bunch of money and give it to them?
cacman Offline
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Here I thought the media announced Bonuses to Bank execs where going to be down 20-30% compared to last year... due to the recession and all??? With an even deeper recession expected next year???

Is it too late to consider a career change to become a bank exec??? Heck the guberment pays for re-education too don't they??? Sarcasm

They where paid and received bonuses and bail-outs when they created the mess. Where paid AGAIN with additional bonuses to supposedly get us out this mess. And now they are going to received more... for what???

Fuqn crooks every one of them!!! I want to see these execs start being brought-up on charges for what is being done to the American tax-payer, instead of them receiving bonuses.

FANNIE MAE [FNMA]
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pdxstogieman Offline
#20 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Here I thought the media announced Bonuses to Bank execs where going to be down 20-30% compared to last year... due to the recession and all??? With an even deeper recession expected next year???

Is it too late to consider a career change to become a bank exec??? Heck the guberment pays for re-education too don't they??? Sarcasm

They where paid and received bonuses and bail-outs when they created the mess. Where paid AGAIN with additional bonuses to supposedly get us out this mess. And now they are going to received more... for what???

Fuqn crooks every one of them!!! I want to see these execs start being brought-up on charges for what is being done to the American tax-payer, instead of them receiving bonuses.

FANNIE MAE [FNMA]
Last [Tick] $0.2306[-]
End of 2007 = over $65

FREDDIE MAC [FMCC]
Last [Tick] $0.2360[+]
End of 2007 = over $65


Why do you hate the rich?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#21 Posted:
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In the 1990's, Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae may have been a serious conflict of interest because his lover, Herb Moses, was an executive for Fannie Mae at the time Frank's was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie Mae.

Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.

So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.

Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank's relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.

Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical.

"It’s absolutely a conflict," said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. "He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?

"If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what’s not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane," added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. "But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard."


Read the whole thing. There needs to be some serious investigations on this matter.

No wonder Bill Clinton said "I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."


http://current.com/news-and-politics/89377987_in-heat-barney-frank-has-love-affair-with-fannie-mae-worker.htm
FuzzNJ Offline
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http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/11/dish-check-who-caused-the-financial-collapse-not-fannie-and-freddie.html

I have worked in the non-profit affordable housing world for most of my adult life. The best way to think about Fannie and Freddie in the '00s is as "wannabes." The senior executives in the corporations made a lot of money, but not as much as their peers in the private sector. They wanted to make more money. The investors in Fannie and Freddie wanted the corporations to make more money. Many in the non-profit community wanted to see Fannie and Freddie make money (they wanted to see that money invested in subsidizing more affordable housing, not in executive bonuses, but...). You get the picture.

In the '80s and into the '90s, Fannie and Freddie owned much of the "affordable housing" market. In the '00s, because of cash freed up in the 2000 internet crash, "financial innovation," and more specifically rampant securitization, all sorts of new mortgage products and investment vehicles were being developed in the private sector, and Fannie and Freddie rapidly began to lose market share, particularly in the sub-prime and Alt-A (e.g. "liar-loans," "stated income" loans, "no-money down" loans) - markets where Fannie and Freddie were not allowed to buy mortgages.

You see, Fannie and Freddie are not really your garden variety lenders; they are what are referred to as market makers. They set the standards for what are called "conforming mortgages." If a bank, or mortgage broker writes a mortgage that conforms to their guidelines (in terms of paperwork, documentation, interest rate, down-payment, loan-to-value, collateral, loan size, etc), then they will buy the loan, no questions asked.

The problem that they were running into the early to mid-'00s, was that less and less of the mortgage business was focused on issuing conforming mortgages, and more and more was focused on sub-prime and alt-A (as well as on larger mortgage loans, which were also out of bounds). Fannie and Freddie lobbied quite hard for a loosening of their guidelines, under the banner of promoting more affordable housing (and the ownership society). In this they enjoyed some (qualified) support from the non-profit affordable housing community. They were able to successfully lobby for some loosening of the guidelines around conforming mortgages, and by 2006, they were able to start buying some sub-prime loans and Alt-A that were previously off-limits. When the music stopped, these loans were still a minority of their balance sheets, but created most of their losses. Paul Krugman provides some of the best graphs illustrating this point (and his description is succinct).

In summary, Fannie and Freddie were very late to the party. They were followers (seeking the windfall profits being enjoyed by the private investment banks) and wannabes, not leaders. The Republicans would like this to be because they were "forced" into it by congress, but really, they were forced into it by their executive's greed. What's clear from the data is that Fannie and Freddie's government leashes didn't start to get loosened until 2006. They were more like the sucker investors who joined the real estate boom late and got screwed out of their money while Goldman/Paulson were placing desperate counter-bets on what they knew to be a bubble by 2006/2007.

Of course Fannie and Freddie's business really spiked in 2008, 2009, 2010, when they (and the FHA) were the only organizations still buying mortgages from originators. If they hadn't continued to buy conforming loans (they did re-tighten the guidelines, but they continued to lend), then the mortgage market would have dried up completely after the crash, and we would have been totally screwed as the bottom dropped out of the entire mortgage finance market. This is a little told part of the Fed's role in saving our bacon.

In no way did Fannie and Freddie provide a "model" for the private sector to follow. It was the other way around, with the executives and shareholders of Fannie and Freddie desperate to get more lee-way from the feds to be able to buy into the markets that were spiking. CRA as the root of the crisis is a complete red-herring, in my opinion.
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#23 Posted:
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Far from being a cause of the subprime meltdown, the Community Reinvestment Act actually facilitated more prudent lending from the small segment of the mortgage lending industry actually subject to the CRA (i.e. FDIC-insured banks, as opposed to non-depositary mortgage lenders like Countrywide). Take a look at this study [pdf] of publically available loan data, released before the meltdown. It concludes that lenders subject to the CRA (CRA Banks) were substantially less likely than other lenders to make the kinds of risky home purchase loans that helped fuel the foreclosure crisis, specifically that:

(1) CRA Banks were significantly less likely than other lenders to make a subprime loan;
(2) The average APR on subprime loans originated by CRA Banks was appreciably lower than the average APR on subprime loans originated by other lenders;
(3) CRA Banks were more than twice as likely as other lenders to retain originated loans in their portfolio rather than selling them in the secondary market ; and
(4) Foreclosure rates were lower in MSAs with greater concentrations of bank branches.
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Did Fannie and Freddie buy high-risk mortgage-backed securities? Yes. But they did not buy enough of them to be blamed for the mortgage crisis. Highly respected analysts who have looked at these data in much greater detail than [American Enterprise Institute's Peter] Wallison, [AEI consultant Ed] Pinto, or myself, including the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office [pdf], the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies [pdf], the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission majority [pdf], the Federal Housing Finance Agency [pdf], and virtually all academics, including the University of North Carolina [pdf], Glaeser et al at Harvard [pdf], and the St. Louis Federal Reserve [pdf], have all rejected the Wallison/Pinto argument that federal affordable housing policies were responsible for the proliferation of actual high-risk mortgages over the past decade.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/11/dish-check-who-caused-the-financial-collapse-not-fannie-and-freddie.html

get all the links there.
Stinkdyr Offline
#25 Posted:
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Eliminate Fanny and Freddie.

Applause
pdxstogieman Offline
#26 Posted:
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Eliminate Fanny and Freddie.

Applause


Did you forget the 3rd agency you were going to abolish?
Stinkdyr Offline
#27 Posted:
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pdxstogieman wrote:
Did you forget the 3rd agency you were going to abolish?



Oh, there are more than 3 I would like to abolish.

Herfing
DrMaddVibe Offline
#28 Posted:
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Oh, there are more than 3 I would like to abolish.

Herfing



Applause Applause Applause
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
If they could earn more elsewhere, don't you think they'd have "bailed" by now? Anxious


No. I know many people that could make more doing something else somewhere else but do not because they either like what they are doing or feel good about what they are doing..... IE what they are doing makes a difference and it feeds a different need than just coin.

Not sure that applies to freddie or fannie, but I do see a lot of it..... and I am in that bucket. I can and have made more but didn't like what I was doing.... so I moved on.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#30 Posted:
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Yeah, my doctor said to get out and meet the little people.
wheelrite Offline
#31 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
No. I know many people that could make more doing something else somewhere else but do not because they either like what they are doing or feel good about what they are doing..... IE what they are doing makes a difference and it feeds a different need than just coin.

Not sure that applies to freddie or fannie, but I do see a lot of it..... and I am in that bucket. I can and have made more but didn't like what I was doing.... so I moved on.


whatever,,,
teedubbya Offline
#32 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yeah, my doctor said to get out and meet the little people.


I think that was code for lose some weight so you can see your deek.
teedubbya Offline
#33 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
whatever,,,


tis very true. not everyone balances their priorities the same way. I'm working on going another direction that MAY pay me even less..... meh.... but it will be fun. then again it could end up paying me more in the long run
wheelrite Offline
#34 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
tis very true


You just won the Cbid Humanitarian of the Week decal...

Place it prominently on your cubicle !
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
You just won the Cbid Humaitarian of the Week decal...

Place it prominently on your cubicle !


in here saddam would be in the running for that award, but I don't have a cubicle
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted:
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Would you rather have an adjusted gross income of $135,000 a year working 9-5 at the EPA or an AGI of $85,000 being a DJ at a tittie bar?
wheelrite Offline
#37 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Would you rather have an adjusted gross income of $135,000 a year working 9-5 at the EPA or an AGI of $85,000 being a DJ at a tittie bar?


neither,,,

I'm self employed.

and for the record I have'nt been a strip bar in over a decade...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#38 Posted:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rSokGrpCoWA


Why so quiet?
pdxstogieman Offline
#39 Posted:
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Another staunch fiscal conservative fighting to eliminate government bureaucracy unless he's compensated by the bureaucrats to influence his compatriots not to elminate them.

Gingrich says he received Freddie Mac compensation
By PETE YOST and THOMAS BEAUMONT | AP – 4 hrs ago..

URBANDALE, Iowa (AP) — Rising in national polls, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich found himself on the defensive Wednesday over huge payments he received over the past decade from the federally backed housing agency Freddie Mac.

Gingrich said he didn't remember exactly how much he was paid, but a former Freddie Mac official said it was at least $1.5 million for consulting contracts stretching from 1999 to 2007. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a personnel matter.

Speaking with reporters in Iowa, Gingrich said he provided "strategic advice for a long period of time" after he resigned as House speaker following his party's losses in the 1998 elections. He defended Freddie Mac's role and said, "every American should be interested in expanding housing opportunities." Long unpopular among Republicans, the federally backed mortgage lender has become a focal point of anti-government sentiment because of the housing crisis.

On Tuesday, a House committee voted to strip top executives of Freddie and its larger competitor, Fannie Mae, of huge salaries and bonuses and put them on the same pay scale as federal employees.

In 2008, Gingrich suggested in a Fox News interview that then-presidential candidate Barack Obama should have to return campaign contributions he had received from executives of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. He said that in a debate with Obama, GOP presidential nominee John McCain "should have turned and said, 'Senator Obama, are you prepared to give back all the money that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae gave you?'"

Gingrich sought Wednesday to portray his role as a sign of valuable experience.

"It reminds people that I know a great deal about Washington," Gingrich said Wednesday. "We just tried four years of amateur ignorance and it didn't work very well. So, having someone who actually knows Washington might be a really good thing."

Gingrich's history at Freddie Mac began in 1999, when he was hired by the company's top lobbyist, Mitchell Delk. He was brought in for strategic consulting, primarily on legislative and regulatory issues, the company said at the time. That job, which paid about $25,000 to $30,000 a month, lasted until sometime in 2002.

In 2006, Gingrich was hired again on a two-year contract that paid him $300,000 annually, again to provide strategic advice while the company fended off attacks from the right wing of the Republican Party.

Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae for years had been under scrutiny from Republicans on Capitol Hill who opposed government involvement in the mortgage business and wanted to scale back the companies' size and impose tough regulation.

In last Wednesday's Republican presidential debate, Gingrich sought to explain his role at Freddie Mac as that of an "historian" sounding dire warnings about the company's future. He said Freddie Mac officials told him "we are now making loans to people that have no credit history and have no record of paying back anything, but that's what the government wants us to do." He said his advice was to tell them, "this is insane."

"I said at the time, this is a bubble ... this is impossible. It turned out unfortunately I was right," Gingrich said.

Former Freddie Mac executives dispute Gingrich's description of his role.

Four people close to Freddie Mac say he was hired to strategize with his employer about identifying political friends on Capitol Hill who would help the company through a very difficult legislative environment. All four people spoke on condition of anonymity to be able to discuss the personnel matter freely.

Freddie Mac executives hoped that would speak positively about the company and its business model as he circulated among conservative groups and help to build intellectual support within his party.

Freddie Mac executives were looking to Gingrich to offer up new, inventive ways to think about old problems, the officials said, but that didn't materialize.

Gingrich's hiring was a small — but because of his name, important — piece of a much larger initiative by the company. Freddie Mac and its larger competitor, Fannie Mae, are government-sponsored enterprises, created by Congress to buy up mortgages so that the housing industry has a ready flow of funds.

The two companies had long been the darlings of Democratic politicians in Washington, hailed as the champions of affordable housing, but they had few supporters on the political right.

Freddie Mac executive Hollis McLoughlin sought to remedy that by hiring a stable of conservative consultants, including Gingrich.

Before Gingrich was hired, Freddie Mac paid $2 million to a Republican consulting firm to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed both companies.

The $2 million was money well spent. The legislation died without ever coming to a vote on the Senate floor. But the danger of regulation wasn't dead, so Freddie Mac hired more consultants, Gingrich among them.

Internal Freddie Mac budget records show $11.7 million was paid to 52 outside lobbyists and consultants in 2006, all of them former Republican lawmakers and ex-GOP staffers. Besides Gingrich, the hires included former Sen. Alfonse D'Amato of New York, former Rep. Vin Weber of Minnesota and Susan Hirschmann, the former chief of staff to ex-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

By September 2008, amid the collapse of the housing industry, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were in disastrous financial condition, were both taken over by the government and remain in conservatorship.

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pdxstogieman wrote:


In last Wednesday's Republican presidential debate, Gingrich sought to explain his role at Freddie Mac as that of an "historian" sounding dire warnings about the company's future. He said Freddie Mac officials told him "we are now making loans to people that have no credit history and have no record of paying back anything, but that's what the government wants us to do." He said his advice was to tell them, "this is insane."

"I said at the time, this is a bubble ... this is impossible. It turned out unfortunately I was right," Gingrich said.

Former Freddie Mac executives dispute Gingrich's description of his role.



This is a prime example of Gingrich using his intelligence and spin in the way that concerns me about his political character. I don't know who is better at it spinning, Gingrich or Scalia...
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