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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted:
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i saw him again today, on tv the former leader
of his team,all 6'4" in his late 20's quarterback at penn state, but he
wasn't wearing the fancy, expensive headset he wore a few
nights ago perhaps traing to be a sportscaster

pretty tall by most standards, in the perfect condition of a
trained athlete, he walked into a shower that he had used
himself many time and was shocked to see a 9 or 10 year old,
child pinned against a wall by a coach he recognized being
being raped by he coach.

he watched for a few seconds or more and decided to call his father
to ask him what he should do, years ago he could look down field
and pick out the one on one coverage 40 yards away and hit his
receiver as he made his cut.

but he had other considerations now, his career, not the damage
being done to the little boy's ass and brain, so instead of dragging
the pedophile coach off the child and perhaps slamming him face first
into a wall, attending to the injured child and calling the police, he
called his own daddy for advice and discussed how this might affect
the former quarter and possible future coach or sportscaster.

years ago in new york a woman was heard screaming for half an hour
or maybe an hour in the streets outside where they sat and watched tv.
no one picked up a phone and called the police. she was found stabbed
to death the next day.

the red head is complicit in every abused child the coach he knew,
destroyed after that moment in the shower
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted:
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Uncle Rick is right again.
wheelrite Offline
#3 Posted:
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Ed Zachary Rick,,,,
jackconrad Offline
#4 Posted:
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Amen Rick..
rfenst Offline
#5 Posted:
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The irony of his fortune is just too much.

Instead of earning the reputation of a true hero who would stand up and do the right thing at the risk of losing his job, he chose to do relatively nothing- to protect his team and emphasize his loyalty.

Now, that "loyalty" won't keep him from losing his job and no other school will have anything to do with him. Good bye career.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted:
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Email outlines reaction to alleged Sandusky attack

By GENARO ARMAS, MARK SCOLFORO and MARYCLAIRE DALE | AP – 3 hrs ago

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A day after the former Penn State assistant football coach who is charged with sexual abuse of boys declared his innocence in a television interview, an email surfaced from a key witness against him, saying he stopped an alleged attack in the team's showers.

Mike McQueary, the graduate assistant who a grand jury report said saw Jerry Sandusky allegedly sodomizing a boy in the locker room, said he stopped the act and went to police. That added confusion to the already emotionally raw situation that has enveloped Penn State University and resulted in the firing of coach Joe Paterno, the ousting of president Graham Spanier and charges of perjury against the athletic director and a former senior vice president.

The Nov. 8 email from McQueary to a friend, made available to The Associated Press, said: "I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room ... I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police .... no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds ... trust me."

McQueary is a former player and current assistant coach who was placed on indefinite paid leave last week after school officials said he had received threats. Emails sent to him seeking comment were not immediately returned.
He told the friend that he felt he was "getting hammered for handling this the right way ... or what I thought at the time was right ... I had to make tough impacting quick decisions."

The grand jury report issued Nov. 5, the day Sandusky was charged with 40 criminal counts for alleged sexual abuse against eight boys over 15 years, goes into considerable detail about the March 2002 incident. McQueary was putting sneakers into his locker late on a Friday night when, the jury said, he saw Sandusky having sex with a young boy.

He left, "distraught," and contacted his father and then head coach Joe Paterno, jurors said. McQueary later met with athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz to describe what he had seen, the grand jury said. Curley and Schultz are charged with not alerting authorities to the report and lying to the grand jury. Paterno lost his job last week, but has not been charged and is not considered a target of investigators, state prosecutors have said.

As a result of the scandal, Curley and Schultz have left their posts, and university president Graham Spanier was also forced out of his job. U.S. Steel said Tuesday Spanier has resigned from its board, where he had been a director since 2008.

On Monday night, Sandusky said in an NBC television interview that he showered with and "horsed around" with boys but was innocent of criminal charges, a statement that has stunned legal observers. Sandusky's comments, they said, could be used by prosecutors trying to convict him of child sex-abuse charges.

"Mr. Sandusky goes on worldwide television and admits he did everything the prosecution claims he did, except for the ultimate act of rape or sodomy? If I were a prosecutor, I'd be stunned," said Lynne Abraham, the former district attorney of Philadelphia. "I was stunned, and then I was revolted."

Abraham, who led a grand jury probe involving 63 accused priests from the Philadelphia archdiocese, was retained this week to lead an internal investigation of The Second Mile, the children's charity founded by Sandusky, from which he allegedly culled his victims.

Sandusky told NBC News' "Rock Center" he was not a pedophile, but in retrospect should not have showered with boys.

"I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them, and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," Sandusky told Bob Costas. "I am innocent of those charges."

When Costas asked him whether he was sexually attracted to underage boys, Sandusky replied: "Sexually attracted, no. I enjoy young people, I love to be around them, but, no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys."
Sandusky apparently decided to talk to Costas by phone Monday at the last minute, with the blessing of his attorney, Joseph Amendola, who was in the studio.

"What was especially astonishing about Sandusky's interview is — and this will be the big moment in court — is when he stumbled over the question about whether he was sexually attracted to children," said crisis management expert Eric Dezenhall, who runs a Washington consulting firm. "That may not be legal proof that he's guilty, but it is certainly not helpful, to struggle with the question."

The state grand jury investigation that led to Sandusky's arrest followed a trail that goes back at least 13 years, leading to questions from some quarters about whether law enforcement moved too slowly.

The grand jury report detailed a 1998 investigation by Penn State police, begun after an 11-year-old boy's mother complained that Sandusky had showered with her son in the football facilities. Then-District Attorney Ray Gricar declined to file charges.

Another apparent missed opportunity came in the 2002 incident that McQueary reported to Paterno.

The case took on new urgency about two years ago, when a woman complained to officials at her local school district that Sandusky had sexually assaulted her son. School district officials banned him from school grounds and contacted police, leading to an investigation by state police, the attorney general's office and the grand jury.
Gov. Tom Corbett took the case on a referral from the Centre County district attorney in early 2009 while he was serving as attorney general.

He bristled Tuesday when asked whether it was fair for people to criticize the pace of the probe.

"People that are saying that are ill-informed as to how investigations are conducted, how witnesses are developed, how backup information, corroborative information is developed, and they really don't know what they're talking about," he told reporters.

The attorney general's office declined to comment on the pace of the investigation.

The Patriot-News of Harrisburg reported Monday that only one trooper was assigned to the case after the state took it over in 2009. After Corbett became governor early this year and his former investigations supervisor in the attorney general's office, Frank Noonan, became state police commissioner, seven more investigators were put on it, the newspaper said.

Noonan's spokeswoman, Maria Finn, said Tuesday that manpower was increased in the case this year, but she could not confirm the numbers reported by the newspaper.

"The investigation, at the time, was gaining momentum," Finn said. "There were more leads, there were more things to do at that point. It's not that the state police weren't doing anything and Noonan comes in and changes things."

With the case now drawing global media attention and potential civil litigants watching from the sidelines, Sandusky went on the offensive in the NBC interview.

"I would knock my client over the head with a two-by-four before I would let them do it, but it cuts both ways," said criminal defense lawyer Mark Geragos, who represented O.J. Simpson and other celebrity defendants. "If prosecutors use it, it can end up being testimony without cross examination."

He called the Penn State matter an unusual case that may call for unusual tactics, given the "instantaneous uproar to convict the guy."

Penn State's trustees have hired the public relations firm Ketchum, which through corporate communications director Jackie Burton said only that "the details of all our client assignments are confidential."

Paterno, who authorities say fulfilled his legal responsibilities and is not considered an investigative target, has hired Washington lawyer Wick Sollers. Sollers told the AP on Tuesday he was "not in a position to comment just yet."

Also Tuesday, lawyers for Schultz and Curley issued a statement in which they said it was "a travesty" that prosecutors sought to delay their clients' preliminary hearing until next month.

"Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz are anxious to face their accusers, clear their good names and go on with their lives," said attorneys Caroline Roberto and Tom Farrell.

The attorney general's office declined to comment.

The State Employees' Retirement System released records Tuesday showing Paterno's long service at the university theoretically puts him in line for a pension of more than $500,000 a year, according to an Associated Press analysis. The formula used to determine benefits makes him eligible for a pension equal to 100 percent or 110 percent of the average of his three highest-salary years, although there are other factors that will influence his final amount, including how much he withdraws in a lump sum, legal limits to benefits and whether he designates a survivor to receive benefits after he dies.

The New York Times reported Tuesday night that Paterno transferred full ownership of his house to his wife, Sue, for $1 in July. The couple had previously held joint ownership of the house. Paterno's attorney Wick Sollers told the paper in an e-mail that the transfer had nothing to do with the scandal but was part of an ongoing "multiyear estate planning program."

Momentum appears to be building among state lawmakers for a legislative response to the legal issues raised by the investigation. State Rep. Eugene DePasquale, D-York, called on Corbett to appoint a special investigator to look for answers that fall outside the criminal investigation. Rep. Jake Wheatley, D-Allegheny, said legislative leaders should appoint a joint House-Senate committee with subpoena power to review state law that addresses mandatory reporting of suspected child abuse.

Sandusky's next court date is Dec. 7, when he is due for a preliminary hearing in which a judge would determine if there's enough evidence for prosecutors to move forward with the case.
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Dale reported from Philadelphia. Scolforo reported from Harrisburg. AP College Football Writer Ralph D. Russo in New York contributed to this report.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#7 Posted:
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There is an expression that says something like either you define the moment or the moment defines you.
This man McQueary will forever be defined by this moment.

If I see someone being raped, not to mention a boy by an old man, there is going to be blood on the floor. Maybe its mine, maybe its his but there will be blood.
I would rather regret something I did that I thought was right in the moment than regret something I didn't do.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#8 Posted:
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Ex-PSU Grad Assistant Matt Paknis On WFAN: Paterno Knows Everything

NEW YORK (WFAN) - A former child-abuse victim himself, former football grad assistant Matt Paknis believes Joe Paterno knew about Jerry Sandusky’s alleged sexual abuse against children years ago.

Paknis joined WFAN’s Mike Francesa on Tuesday to talk about his time at Penn State.


Paknis was a graduate assistant on the Nittany Lions football staff in 1987 and 1988. He says Sandusky exhibited questionable behavior towards the players back then.

As a childhood victim of sexual abuse, he said he remembered thinking how inappropriate it was when he saw Sandusky tickle and pinch little boys during football camps, sometimes putting them in headlocks.

“I thought it was a boundary issue, more than anything else,” Paknis said.

Paknis described Paterno’s rule over the Penn State campus as absolute. “I think he had more power in the state of Pennsylvania than anybody.”

When asked about the possibility that Paterno could not be aware of reports on Sandusky’s behavior Paknis said it was “impossible.”

“Joe knows everything,” he said.

Paknis also said that he could envision a scenario where Paterno attempted to cover up Sandusky’s actions.


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/15/ex-psu-grad-assistant-matt-paknis-on-wfan-paterno-knows-everything/
elk hunter Offline
#9 Posted:
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Rick, on this we agree...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted:
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ELK HUNTER

SO WHAT AM I TODAY "Rick, which are you... The pot or the kettle????'
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted:
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My uncle Rick is black?
elk hunter Offline
#12 Posted:
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Well Rick.... When you are not discussing politics and how your position is the only position, you can be either... If you want to turn this into an argument, so be it... Why don't you quote my WHOLE statement next time? Pretty typical that a lefty would only use part of a quote to try to make himself look good... You amuse me.... Catalyst? Not when you post something like that... More like Cancer...

I simply made a statement... A statement that I agree with your sentiment but again, you need to argue to make yourself feel better...



A maven (also mavin) is a trusted expert in a particular field, who seeks to pass knowledge on to others. The word maven comes from Hebrew, via Yiddish, and means one who understands, based on an accumulation of knowledge.


BE a Maven Rick, Not just a name...
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted:
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Based on that definition, I don't think Rick has ever claimed to be a maven nor has a track record to back up the claim.

I know he has claimed to be a Cassandra but that doesn't work either because Cassandra could predict things correctly but nobody would listen and Rick predicts things incorrectly and nobody listens.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#14 Posted:
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So a Mr. Clean is out the ****' window too?horse
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted:
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elk hunter

NOT MEANT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE JUST A LITTLE PIECE OF HUMOR.
LIKE "DON'T YOU HAVE A BREEDERS GUIDE.

LEFTY'S COME IN ALL SIZES AND ALL COLORS. SOME OF US ARE RIGHT HANDED.

YOU DON'T SOUND LIKE YOU USE MAYO ON A CORNED BEEF ON RYE

RICKAMAVEN Offline
#16 Posted:
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HockeyDad

NICE PIECE OF WORK. HAVE YOU BEEN READING BOROWITZ

elk hunter Offline
#17 Posted:
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Nope
HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
HockeyDad

NICE PIECE OF WORK. HAVE YOU BEEN READING BOROWITZ





Borowitz reads Le HockeyDad.
ZRX1200 Offline
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069497/Jerry-Sandusky-reveals-shocking-new-details-Penn-State-sex-abuse-scandal.html
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#20 Posted:
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RHYTHMIC


SLAPPING


OUTRAGE!!!
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