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thank you senãtor Carl Levin.....
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ZRX1200 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Dec 2 2011, 9:39 PM EST
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http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/senate-military-detention/





Rfenster what say you?

Federales are out of control.
rfenst Online
#2 Posted: Fri, Dec 2 2011, 10:22 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/senate-military-detention/





Rfenster what say you?

Federales are out of control.



Great catch! on what should be seen as a non-partisan issue. You really never read conspiracy crap from me, but I suspect there is a lot going on behind the scenes and that this is a whole bunch of "wink-wink" to provide "cover" for what might come out later on. Give me some time to think about this one- and to not spew vomit like too many here do- just for the sake of their own personal gratification. and entertainment.
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#3 Posted: Fri, Dec 2 2011, 10:56 PM EST
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Free Men and women should and can revolt when it comes to any such breach of freedom or we are doomed to become insignificant people without souls..
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Dec 2 2011, 11:22 PM EST
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Thanks Robert......I hope you realize I didn't mean this in a partisan spirit just a liberty issue.


Levin introduced it though in a defense appropriations bill which as the article said is rarely voted against.
rfenst Online
#5 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 7:14 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Thanks Robert......I hope you realize I didn't mean this in a partisan spirit just a liberty issue.


Levin introduced it though in a defense appropriations bill which as the article said is rarely voted against.




Yeah. I caught that. Someone wants this REAL BAD. And, Levin is privy to almost all of it.











(Never thought it was a partison introduction by you. but, others can't help them selves.
HockeyDad Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 9:51 AM EST
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Time to open the re-education camps!
DaQueenBeez Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 11:55 AM EST
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Just my off-the-cuff opinion...
1)When applied to a citizen of the United States, this is completely unconstitutional.
2)Any representative who votes in favor of this is voting to disregard the Constitution (don't they swear to uphold that document when they're elected?)
3)That makes them traitors, and therefore subject to imprisonment without trial... in accordance with their own wishes.
Whistlebritches Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 12:06 PM EST
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I can't believe I just agreed with Rep.Al Franken................................Excuse me while I go shower.


BTW this is scary stuff.Anyone who votes for this should be hung from the highest yardarm.........or sentenced to life in front of the firing squad.


Ron
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#9 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 12:15 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Thanks Robert......I hope you realize I didn't mean this in a partisan spirit just a liberty issue.


Levin introduced it though in a defense appropriations bill which as the article said is rarely voted against.

you and Al Franken agreeing...absolute proof you are not pulling a partisan stunt. There are freedom lovers on both sides of the aisle, maybe even way up in the balcony too.

I'm not sure how angry I will get as the day wears on.
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#10 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 12:32 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
I can't believe I just agreed with Rep.Al Franken................................Excuse me while I go shower.


BTW this is scary stuff.Anyone who votes for this should be hung from the highest yardarm.........or sentenced to life in front of the firing squad.


Ron


Franken is right on most of the issues. He is against the patriot act and has fought to get rid of the government over-reach in that bill as well.

This law is a natural extention of the patriot act and paranoia about terrorism. The country was willing, for some reason, to give up some privacy for safety 10 years ago. I hope the country pays closer attention to crap like this and fights back by not voting for the people who support laws like this.
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#11 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 12:45 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Franken is right on most of the issues. He is against the patriot act and has fought to get rid of the government over-reach in that bill as well.

This law is a natural extention of the patriot act and paranoia about terrorism. The country was willing, for some reason, to give up some privacy for safety 10 years ago. I hope the country pays closer attention to crap like this and fights back by not voting for the people who support laws like this.

correct, that is the power of the people.
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#12 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 12:57 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Franken is right on most of the issues. He is against the patriot act and has fought to get rid of the government over-reach in that bill as well.

This law is a natural extention of the patriot act and paranoia about terrorism. The country was willing, for some reason, to give up some privacy for safety 10 years ago. I hope the country pays closer attention to crap like this and fights back by not voting for the people who support laws like this.



Franken stole his election..
FuzzNJ Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 12:58 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
correct, that is the power of the people.


Sounds like the occupy movement.
Whistlebritches Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 2:09 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Franken is right on most of the issues. He is against the patriot act and has fought to get rid of the government over-reach in that bill as well.

This law is a natural extention of the patriot act and paranoia about terrorism. The country was willing, for some reason, to give up some privacy for safety 10 years ago. I hope the country pays closer attention to crap like this and fights back by not voting for the people who support laws like this.



Right according to who??????You Fuzzy?????Yet I do intend to look a little closer at Rep. Franken...........I still think he's a nut for the most part.

I do not for one minute buy that this law is a natural extention of the Patriot Act.While not a huge fan of the Patriot Act,I am a realist and understand that some of this provisions in thsi act are absolutely necessary.I also believe that most of this being made openly available to the public is absolutely wrong.......Kind of like telegraphing your plays in advance to your opponent.If solely used to PROTECT the general public.........I'm OK with that.This so called natural extension is nothing more than the extreme left stroking their power pole......and yes given the opportunity I think the left would lock up all conservatives in a reeducation camp..............But only for the GREATER GOOD.Sarcasm


Ron
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 2:10 PM EST
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Ok everyone .......


Here's the list of votes:

http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2011/s/218
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#16 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 2:13 PM EST
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Ok everyone .......


Here's the list of votes:

http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2011/s/218
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#17 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 2:47 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Right according to who??????You Fuzzy?????Yet I do intend to look a little closer at Rep. Franken...........I still think he's a nut for the most part.


Yes according to me. Who else's opinion do you think I'm expressing here? Of course according to me.

Whistlebritches wrote:

I do not for one minute buy that this law is a natural extention of the Patriot Act.While not a huge fan of the Patriot Act,I am a realist and understand that some of this provisions in thsi act are absolutely necessary.I also believe that most of this being made openly available to the public is absolutely wrong.......Kind of like telegraphing your plays in advance to your opponent.If solely used to PROTECT the general public.........I'm OK with that.This so called natural extension is nothing more than the extreme left stroking their power pole......and yes given the opportunity I think the left would lock up all conservatives in a reeducation camp..............But only for the GREATER GOOD.Sarcasm


Ron


And that's why you are a mentally challenged partisan hack.
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#18 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 3:26 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
And that's why you are a mentally challenged partisan hack.



Yes I'm the mentally challenged partisan hack..............because I also have an opinion.I do believe this proves you're about as open minded as your average left wing insane brethren.

BTW Fuzzy.....you're still a prick.


Ron
Whistlebritches Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 3:33 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Ok everyone .......


Here's the list of votes:

http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2011/s/218



I am sick of them hiding sh*t like this in important bills.Either bills should be incredibly specific or line item veto,useless under our current CIC,must be passed.


Vote all these bastids out.......It's time for REAL HOPE AND CHANGE,not that bullsh*t that Obumma was selling.

Ron
FuzzNJ Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 3:41 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Yes I'm the mentally challenged partisan hack..............because I also have an opinion.I do believe this proves you're about as open minded as your average left wing insane brethren.

BTW Fuzzy.....you're still a prick.


Ron


You really are clueless. You looked at the vote, you saw the comments, this was not a partisan issue. Both the left and the right disliked this clause yet both the left and the right voted for it.

Yet you think "This so called natural extension is nothing more than the extreme left stroking their power pole." and that the patriot act's unconstitutional provisions are needed because why? it was during a Republican administration?

This is why you are a partisan hack and also mentally challenged because you are not able to see the logical pretzel you are trying to sell.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 4:03 PM EST
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Look at the "gang of 14" votes........


Many far left and far right voted against it.
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#22 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 4:13 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:

This is why you are a partisan hack and also mentally challenged



FuzzNJ tosses a "Retard Bomb" from the comfort of his couch....

Happy Saturday!
Whistlebritches Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 4:51 PM EST
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Fuzzy

I have a grand idea...........Go fistf*ck yourself.


Ron
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#24 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 5:50 PM EST
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Bernie Sanders dun right!

And you two chidren are as annoying as people talking in a movie theater. Is there nothing more important than your own opinions of each other. We get it, you can't stand each other...My God, is it boring.
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#25 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 6:20 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Fuzzy

I have a grand idea...........Go fistf*ck yourself.


Ron


lmao Sick
FuzzNJ Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 6:21 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Bernie Sanders dun right!

And you two chidren are as annoying as people talking in a movie theater. Is there nothing more important than your own opinions of each other. We get it, you can't stand each other...My God, is it boring.



Daaaaaad, he started it. ;)

Bernie is my favorite Senator.
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#27 Posted: Sat, Dec 3 2011, 6:59 PM EST
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