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Bachmann's campaign chairman resigns, endorses Ron Paul on live TV
borndead1 Offline
#1 Posted:
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BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1jdrpsNPtg
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted:
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That's funny!

rfenst Offline
#3 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
That's funny!




Funny? Just curious why?

Everyone knows she has no chance of accomplishing anything towards her own nomination (other than an unlikely VP offer). She is very conservative on social issues and carries no weight in my mind on "conservative" political issues. So, in the days to come, she would be losing Iowa primary votes as things "firm-up" b/c most people want to vote for a potential primary winner they can at least somewhat relate to, rather than an obvious primary "loser". That being said, I wonder how many of her votes will/would go to Paul or elsewhere- other than Romney.

Thinking all that, I wonder if he did this with Bachman's consent or at least non-objection. Perhaps there was some sort of deal or behind the scenes bad-blood. Obviously, this could have been solely born out of true conviction, but that makes me wonder why he didn't do this sooner.

Either way, I'm curious about the "back story" and whether "back-stabbed" and whether he treated Bachman honorably. My (ideal) hope is the latter...



(This primary cycle could be a nail biter like Clinton/Obama was. I think Romney will win and wonder whether Paul will split off and run in a three-way. If he does, Obama wins big-time.)
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted:
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^ I agree. I think its funny because withing the establishment R machine Bachman is an acceptable campaigner where as Paul is not. I don't know if this will have any effect going foward (vote bump) but can't wait to hear the a.m. echo chamber spin today!
rfenst Offline
#5 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ I agree. I think its funny because withing the establishment R machine Bachman is an acceptable campaigner where as Paul is not. I don't know if this will have any effect going foward (vote bump) but can't wait to hear the a.m. echo chamber spin today!


I hear you loud and clear. These are the types of peaceful, meaningful political discussions I like. No vitriol. No agenda pushing. No Flaming. But hey, practically no one ha seen this thread yet!

I think it would be interesting at the end of the day she came out and pulled the plug on her campaign and endorsed Paul. You know- Kumbaya- "I knew about this and supported it fully and Ron Paul too."
borndead1 Offline
#6 Posted:
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Bachmann is super pissed.


Boone, Ia. — Michele Bachmann read this statement but took no questions this evening in response to her Iowa campaign chairman’s defection tonight to the Ron Paul campaign:

“It’s clear that this was a deliberate move by the Ron Paul campaign to discredit our campaign and our growing momentum. Ron Paul is in trouble in Iowa and his campaign is worried about people learning about his dangerous stance on foreign policy and how he will make America less safe.

“Kent Sorenson personally told me he was offered a large sum of money to go to work for the Paul campaign. Kent campaigned with us earlier this afternoon and went immediately afterward to a Ron Paul event and announced he is changing teams. Kent said to me yesterday that ‘everyone sells out in Iowa, why shouldn’t I,’ then he told me he would stay with our campaign. The Ron Paul campaign has to answer for its actions.

“We are almost through with our 99 county tour and have seen overwhelming support all across Iowa. This is clearly an effort on the part of the Paul campaign to throw cold water on our growing momentum.

“We are thrilled to announce that State Senator Brad Zaun is now Iowa Chairman of our campaign. He has tremendous respect across the state and he has worked tirelessly for our campaign. I am proud to have him as our State Chairman.”


Ouch!

But wait...there's more!


From MSNBC: In a follow-up interview, Sorenson categorically denied having received any offer of compensation by Paul's campaign.

"Listen, that's absurd. Like I said before, people on this campaign supported me in my race. They worked tirelessly for me. They stuffed envelopes, they door knocked for me," he said. "I feel like I'm coming home to them."


And more!

http://libertymaven.com/2011/12/29/michelle-bachmanns-own-political-director-claims-she-lied-about-ron-paul-defection/12051/

Lifted from that article:

Here is a statement from her current Iowa political director Wes Enos regarding her statement above from a press release put out by the Ron Paul campaign:

“I won’t say much about the situation or the conflicting statements beyond this; I can say unequivocally that Kent Sorenson’s decision was, in no way financially motivated. His decision had more to do with the fact that the Ron Paul supporters have been something of a family to him since he was first elected in 2008 and here in the end, as it becomes more and more apparent that the caucus cycle is coming to an end, Kent believed that he needed to be with them as they stand on the cusp of a potential caucus upset. While I personally disagree with Kent’s decision, and plan to stay with Michele Bachmann because I truly believe in her, I cannot, in good conscious watch a good man like Kent Sorenson be attacked as a ‘sell-out’ ….That is simply not the case, and it was not the basis of his decision,” said Mr. Enos.



ZRX1200 Offline
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^ Wow. Defection now conflicting statements from within the campaign?

This is very interesting. I hope it leads to more!
rfenst Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ Wow. Defection now conflicting statements from within the campaign?

This is very interesting. I hope it leads to more!



It will. I knew there would be an incendiary back-story.

Any how it is too early to make a hard call (like I did on the Casey Anthony case), but I am pretty much in the business of liars, fakes, magnifiers and good wholesome honest people (>50%). I have read quite a fews books on truthfulness of testimony, written statements and documents. My exerience is that no one single person observes and knows the honest-to-god truth. Often, people perceive things differently and their seemingly conflicting statements aren't really as direct of a conflict as one would initially think.

Here, however, we have diametrically oposed categorical statements by two people, who as of now I pressume were the only two people who heard and/or participated in the conversation. I saw Sorenson on you tube and his body language expressions, tone of voice and speech- and what was left out- kind of didn't add up- made me think ter was a crap-load more to this. I want to watch Bachman's speech and then the new guy's.

I will bet there is a decent- but less than full grain of truth in what Bacman read. i see some wholes in what the old and new guys said.

Anyone want to guess how long the new guy lasts? It is obvious he was covering his own behind for the long-run, not Bachman< Anyone want to bet there was under-handedness by Paul and or major people in his campaign? If sorenson was getting paid by bachman or someone else on her behalf, but Paul isn't paying him anything, how is the guy going to support himself for the rest of Paul's run outside of Iowa?

This is GREAT stuff unrelated to either party or anyone's position in/on the spectrum. A good part of he "real truth" will come out in full by mid-Sunday morning...


borndead, what the hell are you doing watching a liberal rag like MSNBC??? Think


j/k LOL!
HockeyDad Offline
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Maybe the guy just is a racist and felt Ron Paul was better aligned with his views!

Bachmann should transform into a bat and fly into the guy's house and bite him. That would teach him a lesson.
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Maybe the guy just is a racist and felt Ron Paul was better aligned with his views!

Bachmann should transform into a bat and fly into the guy's house and bite him. That would teach him a lesson.



LMFAO!!!
snowwolf777 Offline
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So the gist is he migrated from one "guaranteed-to-lose" campaign to another, correct?

d'oh!
HockeyDad Offline
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snowwolf777 wrote:
So the gist is he migrated from one "guaranteed-to-lose" campaign to another, correct?

d'oh!



Correct.
snowwolf777 Offline
#13 Posted:
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Thank-you. Juss workin' it through in my head.

Definitely a watershed moment in U.S. politics.

HockeyDad Offline
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I figure the only way it even made the news is that the Kardashians didn't have a publicity stunt lined up for that day.
snowwolf777 Offline
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I think Kim is scheduled to marry Ron Paul in 2012. Eh?

Or maybe that was Michele Bachmann?

Confused
snowwolf777 Offline
#16 Posted:
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I gotta go take a shower and stuff now.

My wife says there's some kind of celebration going on tonight or somethin'?

Eh?
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