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What the Heck is a VSU?
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WillyV Offline
#51 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2012, 9:34 PM EST
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It's baaaaaack, been on hiatus for too long, sorry Ron.
WillyV Offline
#52 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2012, 9:36 PM EST
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So the Cromagnon has a very disappointing 3.0 VSU. Great flavors (even bought a cube), but damn, the Asian Hooker draw is a killer.
Whistlebritches Offline
#53 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 8:43 AM EST
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F*CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ron
knokmdwn Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 9:45 AM EST
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Who gives 2 flying kcuf's about smoke?? This is a stupid thread. Maybe you should just buy the smoke in a jar and forget about the cigar.....save some money.
WillyV Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 12:32 PM EST
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knokmdwn wrote:
Who gives 2 flying kcuf's about smoke?? This is a stupid thread. Maybe you should just buy the smoke in a jar and forget about the cigar.....save some money.


More smoke equals more pronounced and identifiable flavors IMO. Boo hoo!

Are you u serious that you don't notice the difference?
desolbones Offline
#56 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 8:37 PM EST
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In the personals isn't VSU....Virgin , Slightly Used?
80 bucks Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:29 PM EST
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Bro that came up with it should get BOTL award for originality or some shti like that.. Just may be the best stat there is when rating a cigar... Just finished a ill. cg4 maddie that was a solid 3.8... IMO the highest VSU I've had was a Tat TAA... Musta be 4.99... tuff to top...80
Whistlebritches Offline
#58 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:35 PM EST
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80 bucks wrote:
Bro that came up with it should get BOTL award for originality or some shti like that.. Just may be the best stat there is when rating a cigar... Just finished a ill. cg4 maddie that was a solid 3.8... IMO the highest VSU I've had was a Tat TAA... Musta be 4.99... tuff to top...80



How about the BS STAT of the YEAR award................


Ron
ZRX1200 Offline
#59 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:37 PM EST
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LMMFPWAO!

get em Ron!
knokmdwn Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:43 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
How about the BS STAT of the YEAR award................


Ron



+1 Applause
80 bucks Offline
#61 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2012, 10:47 PM EST
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Ya ; dat too!!!!
WillyV Offline
#62 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 9:30 AM EST
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Ron, I'm determined to turn u into a lover of the VSU....still working out a plan. More to come!
Nicar Offline
#63 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 9:43 AM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
How about the BS STAT of the YEAR award................


Ron



That would still be giving it credentials....

Now, you dont want to really do that, do you?


And who in their right mind would want to smoke themselves out?
delta1 Offline
#64 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 10:04 AM EST
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LA Corojo: 4.0 VSU, easy draw, no need for AH...very fine tasting too.
WillyV Offline
#65 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 10:13 AM EST
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Love the AH acronym...lol. Did u add that to the list?
delta1 Offline
#66 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 10:24 AM EST
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I 'll take care of that oversight.
delta1 Offline
#67 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 10:27 AM EST
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Done
Nicar Offline
#68 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 10:31 AM EST
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WillyV wrote:
Love the AH acronym...lol. Did u add that to the list?



Noobs are ruining even the acronym thread!!
knokmdwn Offline
#69 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 9:36 PM EST
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My gawd........what did the cigar world EVER DO before they could classify their smoke output.....d'oh! Think
Nicar Offline
#70 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 9:38 PM EST
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I got smoke coming from my EPC Elenco, dont care to measure it if i could, however, the mouthfeel is great. Good cigar!
delta1 Offline
#71 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 9:47 PM EST
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gotta get willyv to send you the AH measuring device, nicar :-" whip
Nicar Offline
#72 Posted: Fri, Mar 23 2012, 9:55 PM EST
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Ummm, no thanks. Just send the AH pre paid.
WillyV Offline
#73 Posted: Sat, Mar 24 2012, 6:37 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
I got smoke coming from my EPC Elenco, dont care to measure it if i could, however, the mouthfeel is great. Good cigar!


Gotta love that mouthfeel!

Separately, I had an Emilio Cigars Grimalkin Toro a few days back which was a solid 5.0 VSU. It was the best smoke I've had this year (out of hundreds). I've had many Grimalkins before and they never really did it for me. They came in at 3.5-4.0 on the VSUometer and were just an ok smoke. This one cigar however, was perfect! The great easy smoke output brought out all the great flavors in the cigar that I could never taste before.

This is only the second 5.0 I've had, ever.

And the mouthfeel was a minus 2.
critter2 Offline
#74 Posted: Sat, Mar 24 2012, 1:03 PM EST
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we need more subjective scientifics, fairness is being abused these days
Whistlebritches Offline
#75 Posted: Sat, Mar 24 2012, 6:00 PM EST
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WillyV wrote:
Love the AH acronym...lol. Did u add that to the list?



Where exactly are you applying this Preperation H......and does it intensify the WSVU of the cigar.If so could it possibly effect the LDG?????And what about the SCR????????While waiting on the scientific feed back I'll contine to ROTFLMAO at you morons.


Ron
WillyV Offline
#76 Posted: Sun, Mar 25 2012, 8:30 PM EST
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Cain F nub - .6 VSU, wtf, this is terrible!
Doug535 Offline
#77 Posted: Sat, Apr 7 2012, 12:29 PM EST
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Hey WillyV, I think I've figured out the missing factor in all of this. Mouthfeel is ok as to me it is how the amount of smoke feels ( heavy or light ). VSU is good too and can be related by counting the number of smoke rings possible in one draw. ie..10-12 smoke rings = 1.0 VSU. The 7-20-4 I am currently smoking has approx 42 smoke rings per draw which could be assessed as a 3.5 - 4.2 VSU
WillyV Offline
#78 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 6:49 AM EST
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I've been told I have a big mouth (c'mon, bring it) so I might get less smoke rings and hence, lower VSU if I use that measurement. I've got a 7-20-4 Torp laying around so I'll smoke that and we can compare.
gae9jang2j Offline
#79 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 2:04 PM EST
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topped, cuz it's too quiet around here.

a lesson on VSU

and a great post about DE LP cigars in post #29 from Steve Saka himself (athough it was copied from another forum). very good info.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#80 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 3:10 PM EST
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the only lesson you need on vsu is that it's f-ing retarded... class dismissed...
gae9jang2j Offline
#81 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 3:21 PM EST
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i thought it was a funny concept. and maybe about half true

most cigars that I've smoked, that have a lot of smoke production, have at least been decent. regardless of price range

while at least half of the smokes that didn't have good smoke production, were just meh

YMMV
jtl60047 Offline
#82 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 3:29 PM EST
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gae9jang2j wrote:
i thought it was a funny concept. and maybe about half true

most cigars that I've smoked, that have a lot of smoke production, have at least been decent. regardless of price range

while at least half of the smokes that didn't have good smoke production, were just meh

YMMV



+1

Herfing
Whistlebritches Offline
#83 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 4:35 PM EST
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not again!!!


Ron
critter2 Offline
#84 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 5:36 PM EST
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^i thought that was your creation ron
DCLover Offline
#85 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2013, 6:09 PM EST
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critter2 wrote:
^i thought that was your creation ron

LOL
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