America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 12 years ago by DrMaddVibe. 62 replies replies.
2 Pages12>
I liked the speech
MikeyRavioli Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
I am not a fan of the man (damn Kenyan Muslin) or his policies but he gave a decent speech.

I REALLY liked the Republican response. My first question was who is this guy and why isn't her running for President.
FuzzNJ Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
MikeyRavioli wrote:
I am not a fan of the man (damn Kenyan Muslin) or his policies but he gave a decent speech.

I REALLY liked the Republican response. My first question was who is this guy and why isn't her running for President.


Eh, it was okay. He spanked the republicans quite a bit trying to look like he's not a caver.

The response was hilarious to me. So over the top with silly inflections. "We will always be a nation of 'haves' and 'soon to haves'." wtf?

And Daniels is too short to be President. He is short, but I don't care, but people apparently do because someone says it every time his name is mentioned. Plus, he was Bush's budget director and we all know how that worked out. He estimated the Iraq war would only cost 50 billion and screwed up bad. But a lot of Republicans like him.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
Well, not judging the content or the accuracy, I think if we saw more of that attitude the last three years his approval rating would be higher.

FuzzNJ Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
MikeyRavioli wrote:
Well, not judging the content or the accuracy, I think if we saw more of that attitude the last three years his approval rating would be higher.



Kind of surprised by that. I agree. He made too many compromises when the republicans were and are not compromising and should be tougher and stand up for his principles, or at least Democratic principles. He doesn't have many of those anymore.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
I didn't hear anything special or new.

It sounds like politics as usual to me. He wants to expand the power of the Executive Branch, go deeper in debt and expand Big Government.

What's so special about that?

He could've stated he wants a repeal of NAFTA legislation...but he didn't.

He could've stated he wants a cessation to wars...but he didn't.

Just more patting on his own back and a bunch of trained Pavlovian politicians standing up and clapping for far too long over nothing.

Applause


bloody spaniard Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
^Applause

Speeches smeeches... WGF about words.

Caught bits and pieces of the activist's pep talk. Ok, I guess I'll give him an "A" for oratory skills. Same thing with the Republican nerd who followed him.
Now, how about we give the small US businessman a few breaks & stop jabberin' our jaws.



Btw, Fuzz, it was 50 billion per YEAR that was supposed to have been paid by Iraqui oil revenues for the war effort.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
FuzzNJ wrote:
Kind of surprised by that. I agree. He made too many compromises when the republicans were and are not compromising and should be tougher and stand up for his principles, or at least Democratic principles. He doesn't have many of those anymore.


I think the days of extreme left or extreme right are over. The majority of the populous sits closer to the middle these days and the line between Democrat and Republican are getting blurrier every day. The election may come down to who the voting public likes better: an economic populist or a social populist regardless of party.



MikeyRavioli Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
I knew the Red Dogs of C-bid would jump on me. I figured it would have been harder honestly.

All I was saying was I thought there was a marked difference in the Presidents attitude this speech than his previous speeches. Obviosly with the election looming and the poll numbers not looking so good, a change was required.

I thought it was refreshing to see a guy who was more about concession and apology showing a little fight. I am still a Romney guy, but I liked seeing some spark even if it was just bluster.
FuzzNJ Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
bloody spaniard wrote:




Btw, Fuzz, it was 50 billion per YEAR that was supposed to have been paid by Iraqui oil revenues for the war effort.



Second part correct, first part not.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2010/03/mitch-daniels-redux.html
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,661
Romney guy says it all.



I liked the part where he said he would work with everyone to pass legislation to help Amerika. Then he followed that by saying he wouldn't compromise.

The Kenyan king is a joke. I give the teleprompter a C+ for oratory skills.
FuzzNJ Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
MikeyRavioli wrote:
I think the days of extreme left or extreme right are over. The majority of the populous sits closer to the middle these days and the line between Democrat and Republican are getting blurrier every day. The election may come down to who the voting public likes better: an economic populist or a social populist regardless of party.





The majority of the population has ALWAYS been in the middle. It's the political class, political entertainment tv and radio and the small band of extremists on both sides that are fighting. Obama is trying to be in the middle, all things to all people, and with extremists yelling the loudest he looks weak by not fighting back harder.

The vast majority of the electorate don't even understand all the issues, they can't, people are too busy surviving. I have a lot of time, and I'm lucky, to read and listen. Most people don't and quite a few just listen to someone they trust to tell them what to do anyway, a relative, preacher, media personality or single issue voters.

The entire discussion of who is being a populist, who is smart or stupid for a certain political move etc, is discussion about process, not policy. It treats the election as a sporting event instead of discussing the policies that would be best for the nation because they want viewers to make more money so they've dumbed it down to the detriment of the country.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,661
^ again just like FGM said.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
FuzzNJ wrote:
The majority of the population has ALWAYS been in the middle. It's the political class, political entertainment tv and radio and the small band of extremists on both sides that are fighting. Obama is trying to be in the middle, all things to all people, and with extremists yelling the loudest he looks weak by not fighting back harder.

The vast majority of the electorate don't even understand all the issues, they can't, people are too busy surviving. I have a lot of time, and I'm lucky, to read and listen. Most people don't and quite a few just listen to someone they trust to tell them what to do anyway, a relative, preacher, media personality or single issue voters.

The entire discussion of who is being a populist, who is smart or stupid for a certain political move etc, is discussion about process, not policy. It treats the election as a sporting event instead of discussing the policies that would be best for the nation because they want viewers to make more money so they've dumbed it down to the detriment of the country.



This message was brought to you by the manufacturers of "Hope And Change". "Hope and Change" and all of it's subsidiaries are proud to be a sponsor for the 44th American President. We recognize that "Hope and Change" is hard to define but it's our mission to deliver it to you and yours in a caring and responsible manner.
bloody spaniard Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
FuzzNJ wrote:
Second part correct, first part not.




I remember dubya saying that on tv- 50 Billion per year from oil revenues. War would pay for itself year after year (this part I ad-libbed but that's what I think he meant).


At this point, I don't care about a politician's public presentation. He could stammer & choke like that George VI (?) character with marbles in his mouth if it means that I'll see an increase in my paycheck and more harmony around me. Right now I see just another smooth politician and decades of gradual deterioration.

To hell with speeches.
But wait, let's analyze his body language & gestures while we're at it. Ooooooohhhhh, won't that be fun! Woot
DrMaddVibe Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
bloody spaniard wrote:
I remember dubya saying that on tv- 50 Billion per year from oil revenues. War would pay for itself year after year (this part I ad-libbed but that's what I think he meant).


At this point, I don't care about a politician's public presentation. He could stammer & choke like that George VI (?) character with marbles in his mouth if it means that I'll see an increase in my paycheck and more harmony around me. Right now I see just another smooth politician and decades of gradual deterioration.

To hell with speeches.
But wait, let's analyze his body language & gestures while we're at it. Ooooooohhhhh, won't that be fun! Woot



And where they get those fabulous suits and haircuts!!!!Brick wall
MikeyRavioli Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
DrMaddVibe wrote:
And where they get those fabulous suits and haircuts!!!!Brick wall



Thats actually why I am supporting Romney. He has the best hair of all candidates. Even in a non-political sense the man has great hair.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
MikeyRavioli wrote:
Thats actually why I am supporting Romney. He has the best hair of all candidates. Even in a non-political sense the man has great hair.



and very white teeth. I've heard that he has minty fresh breath too.
bloody spaniard Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
MikeyRavioli wrote:
Thats actually why I am supporting Romney. He has the best hair of all candidates. Even in a non-political sense the man has great hair.



There you go. At least you've got some integrity in admitting that... which is more than I can say for most political whores.
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,190
Can America afford a Massachusetts moderate?

(I got that as a voice mail yesterday)
bloody spaniard Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
HockeyDad wrote:
Can America afford a Massachusetts moderate?
(I got that as a voice mail yesterday)




Any particular reason why your voice went up an octave & it sounded as though you were fighting back tears when you aksed dat?Gonz
MikeyRavioli Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
bloody spaniard wrote:
There you go. At least you've got some integrity in admitting that... which is more than I can say for most political whores.



Well I am still holding back a little bit. I am waiting to see who Kim Kardashian endorses before I put my full weight behind anyone.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
MikeyRavioli wrote:
Well I am still holding back a little bit. I am waiting to see who Kim Kardashian endorses before I put my full weight behind anyone.



That's one barometer fer sure.

I'm still waiting to see who the American Idol judges are promoting myself!Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
bloody spaniard Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
I'm waiting to see who can perch on a fencepost & rotate the fastest...

Think Anybody heard from TW?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
bloody spaniard wrote:
I'm waiting to see who can perch on a fencepost & rotate the fastest...


...and spinning plates while operating the printing presses with their feet?whip


HockeyDad Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,190
Enough with the waiting. Get on the Obama gravy train!

If it weren't for the Republicans blocking everything, we would already be in high cotton.
Buckwheat Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
The King's Speech was a hell of a good movie IMO. I didn’t watch the State of the Union. I’d seen it all before. I wanted to watch the Australian Open. There are some pretty hot Female Tennis players these days. Love their ball work. Applause
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
Buckwheat wrote:
The King's Speech was a hell of a good movie IMO. I didn’t watch the State of the Union. I’d seen it all before. I wanted to watch the Australian Open. There are some pretty hot Female Tennis players these days. Love their ball work. Applause



Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
DrMaddVibe Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
HockeyDad wrote:
Can America afford a Massachusetts moderate?

(I got that as a voice mail yesterday)



We've got a printing press...of course we can!Drool

Say, will ya take a check?whip
Numismaniac Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2012
Posts: 12,222
Buckwheat wrote:
The King's Speech was a hell of a good movie IMO. I didn’t watch the State of the Union. I’d seen it all before. I wanted to watch the Australian Open. There are some pretty hot Female Tennis players these days. Love their ball work. Applause

My first time to see it, not bad, the movie not the ballwork.
FuzzNJ Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
Buckwheat wrote:
The King's Speech was a hell of a good movie IMO. I didn’t watch the State of the Union. I’d seen it all before. I wanted to watch the Australian Open. There are some pretty hot Female Tennis players these days. Love their ball work. Applause


I tivo'd it and started to watch, got bored quickly. Does it get better as the movie goes along?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
FuzzNJ wrote:
I tivo'd it and started to watch, got bored quickly. Does it get better as the movie goes along?



When in doubt...refer to your avatar.Frying pan
DrMaddVibe Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/state-of-the-union-registers-at-th-grade-reading-level-112236.html



8th grade reading level...talking about dumbing it down.whip
FuzzNJ Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
DrMaddVibe wrote:
When in doubt...refer to your avatar.Frying pan


I know you have a hard on for me n stuff, but must you be a ****** on every single thing I post?
bloody spaniard Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
LMAO! Guys, I suspect your exchanges could bring many a sensitive cbidder to tears and running to the monitors by now.

Fuzz, as you well know, it's a sensitive, poignant story about an aristocrat and a peon- a powerful man almost brought to his knees by a handicap were it not for his rescue by a clever, unwashed commoner who interchanges between vulgarities and fancy dance steps as often as I change avatars. The thrills don't abound but the vulgar commoner's quick wit made me smile as he pulls his better out of the doldrums and gives him new found confidence. The king then lets the lower class denizen kiss his ring finger & they live happily ever after as good friends- kinda like Timmy & Lassie.
Warning- your eyes may moisten a bit at times.

I give it 3 jolly goods out of 4.
goonite Beer
DrMaddVibe Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
FuzzNJ wrote:
I know you have a hard on for me n stuff, but must you be a ****** on every single thing I post?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDDRiGIUYQo

Hope FOR Change!
Kawak Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 11-26-2007
Posts: 4,025
By CALVIN WOODWARD

(AP) President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address on Capitol Hill in Washington,...
Full Image



WASHINGTON (AP) - It was a wish list, not a to-do list.

President Barack Obama laid out an array of plans in his State of the Union speech as if his hands weren't so tied by political realities. There can be little more than wishful thinking behind his call to end oil industry subsidies - something he could not get through a Democratic Congress, much less today's divided Congress, much less in this election year.

And there was more recycling, in an even more forbidding climate than when the ideas were new: He pushed for an immigration overhaul that he couldn't get past Democrats, permanent college tuition tax credits that he asked for a year ago, and familiar discouragements for companies that move overseas.

A look at Obama's rhetoric Tuesday night and how it fits with the facts and political circumstances:

OBAMA: "We have subsidized oil companies for a century. That's long enough. It's time to end the taxpayer giveaways to an industry that's rarely been more profitable, and double-down on a clean energy industry that's never been more promising."

THE FACTS: This is at least Obama's third run at stripping subsidies from the oil industry. Back when fellow Democrats formed the House and Senate majorities, he sought $36.5 billion in tax increases on oil and gas companies over the next decade, but Congress largely ignored the request. He called again to end such tax breaks in last year's State of the Union speech. And he's now doing it again, despite facing a wall of opposition from Republicans who want to spur domestic oil and gas production and oppose tax increases generally.

---

OBAMA: "Our health care law relies on a reformed private market, not a government program."

THE FACTS: That's only half true. About half of the more than 30 million uninsured Americans expected to gain coverage through the health care law will be enrolled in a government program. Medicaid, the federal-state program for low-income people, will be expanded starting in 2014 to cover childless adults living near the poverty line.

The other half will be enrolled in private health plans through new state-based insurance markets. But many of them will be receiving federal subsidies to make their premiums more affordable. And that's a government program, too.

Starting in 2014 most Americans will be required to carry health coverage, either through an employer, by buying their own plan, or through a government program.

---

OBAMA, asking Congress to pay for construction projects: "Take the money we're no longer spending at war, use half of it to pay down our debt, and use the rest to do some nation-building right here at home."

THE FACTS: The idea of taking war "savings" to pay for other programs is budgetary sleight of hand. For one thing, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been largely financed through borrowing, so stopping the wars doesn't create a pool of ready cash, just less debt. And the savings appear to be based at least in part on inflated war spending estimates for future years.

---

OBAMA: "Through the power of our diplomacy a world that was once divided about how to deal with Iran's nuclear program now stands as one."

THE FACTS: The world is still divided over how to deal with Iran's disputed nuclear program, and even over whether the nuclear program is a problem at all.

It is true that the U.S., Europe and other nations have agreed to apply the strictest economic sanctions yet on Iran later this year. But the global sanctions net has holes, because some of Iran's large oil trading partners won't go along. China, a major purchaser of Iran's crude, isn't part of the new sanctions and, together with Russia, stopped the United Nations from applying similarly tough penalties.

---

OBAMA: "Tonight, I want to speak about how we move forward, and lay out a blueprint for an economy that's built to last - an economy built on American manufacturing, American energy, skills for American workers, and a renewal of American values."

THE FACTS: Economists do see manufacturing growth as a necessary component of any U.S. recovery. U.S. manufacturing output climbed 0.9 percent in December, the biggest gain since December 2010. Yet Obama's apparent vision of a nation once again propelled by manufacturing - a vision shared by many Republicans - may already have slipped into the past.

Over generations, the economy has become ever more driven by services; not since 1975 has the U.S. had a surplus in merchandise trade, which covers trade in goods, including manufactured and farm goods. About 90 percent of American workers are employed in the service sector, a profound shift in the nature of the workforce over many decades.

The overall trade deficit through the first 11 months of 2011 ran at an annual rate of nearly $600 billion, up almost 12 percent from the year before.

---

OBAMA: "The Taliban's momentum has been broken, and some troops in Afghanistan have begun to come home."

THE FACTS: Obama is more sanguine about progress in Afghanistan than his own intelligence apparatus. The latest National Intelligence Estimate on Afghanistan warns that the Taliban will grow stronger, using fledgling talks with the U.S. to gain credibility and stall until U.S. troops leave, while continuing to fight for more territory. The classified assessment, described to The Associated Press by officials who have seen it, says the Afghan government hasn't been able to establish credibility with its people, and predicts the Taliban and warlords will largely control the countryside.

---

OBAMA: "On the day I took office, our auto industry was on the verge of collapse. Some even said we should let it die. With a million jobs at stake, I refused to let that happen. In exchange for help, we demanded responsibility. We got workers and automakers to settle their differences. We got the industry to retool and restructure. Today, General Motors is back on top as the world's number one automaker. Chrysler has grown faster in the U.S. than any major car company. Ford is investing billions in U.S. plants and factories."

THE FACTS: He left out some key details. The bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under Republican President George W. Bush. Obama picked up the ball, earmarked more money, and finished the job. But Ford never asked for a federal bailout and never got one.

---

OBAMA: "We can also spur energy innovation with new incentives. The differences in this chamber may be too deep right now to pass a comprehensive plan to fight climate change. But there's no reason why Congress shouldn't at least set a clean energy standard that creates a market for innovation."

THE FACTS: With this statement, Obama was renewing a call he made last year to require 80 percent of the nation's electricity to come from clean energy sources by 2035, including nuclear, natural gas and so-called clean coal. He did not put that percentage in his speech but White House background papers show that it remains his goal.

But this Congress has yet to introduce a bill to make that goal a reality, and while legislation may be introduced this year, it is unlikely to become law with a Republican-controlled House that loathes mandates.

---

OBAMA: "Right now, because of loopholes and shelters in the tax code, a quarter of all millionaires pay lower tax rates than millions of middle-class households."

THE FACTS: It's true that a minority of millionaires pay a lower tax rate than some lower-income people. On average, though, wealthy people pay taxes at a much higher rate than middle-income taxpayers.

Obama's claim comes from a Congressional Research Service report that compared federal taxes paid by people making less than $100,000 with those paid by people making more than $1 million. About 10 percent of families with incomes under $100,000 paid more than 26.5 percent in federal income, payroll and corporate taxes. And about a quarter of millionaire taxpayers paid a rate lower than that.

---

OBAMA: "We can't bring back every job that's left our shores.... Tonight, my message to business leaders is simple: Ask yourselves what you can do to bring jobs back to your country, and your country will do everything we can to help you succeed."

FACT CHECK: Many of the jobs U.S. companies have created overseas won't return because they were never in the United States in the first place.

As Obama said in his speech, U.S. workers have become more productive and labor costs have fallen.

But there are powerful forces pushing the other way: Many of the overseas jobs in U.S. companies weren't transferred from the U.S. They were created in fast-growing markets in Latin America, Asia and elsewhere to serve customers in those markets. Companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 index now earn more than half of their revenue from overseas.

That has fueled more job creation abroad. U.S. multinationals cut more than 800,000 jobs in the United States from 2000 to 2009, according the Commerce Department. They added 2.9 million overseas in the same period.

---

OBAMA: "Anyone who tells you that America is in decline or that our influence has waned doesn't know what they're talking about ... That's not how people feel from Tokyo to Berlin; from Cape Town to Rio; where opinions of America are higher than they've been in years."

THE FACTS: Obama left out Arab and Muslim nations, where popular opinion of the U.S. appears to have gone downhill or remained unchanged after the spring 2011 reformist uprisings in the Middle East. A Pew Research Center survey in May found that in predominantly Muslim countries such as Turkey, Jordan and Pakistan, views of the U.S. were worse than a year earlier. In Pakistan, a major recipient of U.S. foreign aid that went unmentioned in Obama's speech, just 11 percent of respondents said they held a positive view of the United States.

---

FuzzNJ Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
Wow, there is so much sh*t to wade through on that spam.

2007, average rate paid for top 1% was 19% for federal taxes.

That oil 'fact' didn't dispute what Obama said at all, just mocked him for trying something the Republicans would reject anyway.

"The provisions targeted include the industry’s use of a tax break that since 2004 has trimmed the corporate tax rate for manufacturers; oil-depletion allowances that all but the biggest firms use to recover drilling costs, sometimes more than 100 percent of those costs; and the expensing of “intangible” drilling costs at a rate higher than that used by most non-oil companies to recover investment costs."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/how-much-do-oil-companies-really-pay-in-taxes/2011/05/11/AF7UNutG_story.html

The last one is freakin' hilarious.

Don't want to ponder this any longer.
Charlie Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
DrMaddVibe wrote:
I didn't hear anything special or new.

It sounds like politics as usual to me. He wants to expand the power of the Executive Branch, go deeper in debt and expand Big Government.

What's so special about that?

He could've stated he wants a repeal of NAFTA legislation...but he didn't.

He could've stated he wants a cessation to wars...but he didn't.

Just more patting on his own back and a bunch of trained Pavlovian politicians standing up and clapping for far too long over nothing.

Applause




Totally agree with DocMaddVibe......Obama is the most "I" person I have ever heard speak, instead of "we", he uses "I" except when shifting blame, which is every other sentence,,,,

By far the worst US President we have ever had, Jimmy Carter is very happy to be next to the bottom now!
FuzzNJ Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
Charlie wrote:
Totally agree with DocMaddVibe......Obama is the most "I" person I have ever heard speak, instead of "we", he uses "I" except when shifting blame, which is every other sentence,,,,


You aren't paying attention to the republican campaign for the presidential nomination? Tune in, it's hilariously entertaining.
Charlie Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
FuzzNJ wrote:
You aren't paying attention to the republican campaign for the presidential nomination? Tune in, it's hilariously entertaining.

Fuzzy, I do not like any of the GOP choices that are running, but will vote for any of them but Newt over Obama, will consider voting for Newt (I hope he does not win) only if he has a strong running mate.

I like NJ Governor Christie for President when he decides to win.
FuzzNJ Offline
#41 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
Charlie wrote:
Fuzzy, I do not like any of the GOP choices that are running, but will vote for any of them but Newt over Obama, will consider voting for Newt (I hope he does not win) only if he has a strong running mate.

I like NJ Governor Christie for President when he decides to win.



The point obviously was that Gingrich, Romney and Santorum use the word I all the time, Newt in every other sentence. So this old Obama says 'I' more than anyone right wing talking point is stupid and pointless. Might as well keep asking for his birth certificate or he's gay.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 10-10-2005
Posts: 2,105
I still beleive he was born in Kenya and is a Muslim.
Gay? not sure.
FuzzNJ Offline
#43 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
MikeyRavioli wrote:
I still beleive he was born in Kenya and is a Muslim.
Gay? not sure.


lol, you go girl
FuzzNJ Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
And GO GIANTS!
bloody spaniard Offline
#45 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
speech. speech, vee vant more speechie weechiesWoot
RollEyes
DrMaddVibe Offline
#46 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
bloody spaniard wrote:
speech. speech, vee vant more speechie weechiesWoot
RollEyes



More speechie comin' up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDDRiGIUYQo

This message was brought to you by the manufacturers of "Hope And Change". "Hope and Change" and all of it's subsidiaries are proud to be a sponsor for the 44th American President. We recognize that "Hope and Change" is hard to define but it's our mission to deliver it to you and yours in a caring and responsible manner.
bloody spaniard Offline
#47 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
YAY!!! Woot Laugh Applause Dancing
He's been working on his inflection & his practice gesturing is sure paying off!!! Thanks, DMV!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
bloody spaniard wrote:
YAY!!! Woot Laugh Applause Dancing
He's been working on his inflection & his practice gesturing is sure paying off!!! Thanks, DMV!!



Yeah, well Chewie can't use the mirrors in the place because they'd crack...so he has been "striking a pose" ala Madonna's "Vogue" as background music!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,554
HockeyDad wrote:
Enough with the waiting. Get on the Obama gravy train!

If it weren't for the Republicans blocking everything, we would already be in high cotton.



Old times there are not forgotten...look away...look away...Whistle
Charlie Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
FuzzNJ wrote:
The point obviously was that Gingrich, Romney and Santorum use the word I all the time, Newt in every other sentence. So this old Obama says 'I' more than anyone right wing talking point is stupid and pointless. Might as well keep asking for his birth certificate or he's gay.



Fuzzy,Whistle if I am stupid as you put it, then what the f--k are you as you have been cheerleading for this incompetent every since he started his Hype and Change bull****!

Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>