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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:06 AM EST
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listening to old interviews with him he sems to be on any side of an issue that he thinks is important that day.

he lies about lying.

he appears to have a nice family and he just buily that nice house on the beach or he is building it soon or someday.

he has accumujlated enough money to provide fopr his offspring for all of eternity, so what does he need the
aggrevasion for. newt likes the idea and he can pick up more chicks as president then he can as the chunky old man
that he really is.

sanataroium is enjoying the crowds because nobody listened to anything he had to up to this point in his life.

as soon as the race is over he can write a nice book, why i lost the big election by a landslide and his book along
with palin's on discount racks across the nation.

president obama can give his speech about why he is going to tell the republican leaders can go9 F themselves,
he isn't running again so he does not have to put up with their s**t anymore and he can try to fix what the bush's
did to all but destroy this country/

he can smoke in public and georege can start getting drunk in public again.

and maybe the woman who had the had an abortion to protect the bush family will show all the records and take the million larry flint has in escrow for her.

and a question to neopuritan if i wanted to talk to your god, do you think i'd need you to intercede? he is a blood relative,
and blood is thicker then "holy" water.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:11 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:

and maybe the woman who had the had an abortion to protect the bush family will show all the records and take the million larry flint has in escrow for her.






you're thinking of Monica and the Clinton family.... Mellow
daveincincy Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:15 AM EST
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Mellow

...words can not begin to express the constant tone of your replies...but to answer your original question, if in fact you really wanted to know, it's all about ego.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:26 AM EST
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daveincincy

thank you for an honest answer, i was hoping you had something to say and you do and did.

have you noticed my tone is the same as every one from brooklyn before the dodgers finally won a world series.
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:29 AM EST
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Dang.......even went after Neopuritan.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:39 AM EST
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Stone cold rhetorical killa
HockeyDad Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:45 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Stone cold rhetorical killa



It's like you gaze into his eyes and all you see is darkness staring up at you.
bloody spaniard Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 11:51 AM EST
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^Rick's having his fun.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:
daveincincy
thank you for an honest answer, i was hoping you had something to say and you do and did.
have you noticed my tone is the same as every one from brooklyn before the dodgers finally won a world series.



Dave is good that way.

What about this hushed abortion tp protect the Bushes??? Any links?

I still vaguely remember the Met's Polo Grounds & Yankee stadium. Then they began construction on Shea ('64?). They're all gone now...
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 12:31 PM EST
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Mittens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYEO_WZUGcY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 12:51 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
^Rick's having his fun.





You like when he jumps out from under the bridge and demands a fee to cross!
bloody spaniard Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 1:14 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
You like when he jumps out from under the bridge and demands a fee to cross!



I just laughed like an imbecile for all to see. Thank you.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 1:20 PM EST
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Mittens wants to be a Pez? Is that what you're trying to say Rick? The OP would be better written by just throwing an open can of Alphabet soup on the ground and writing what you see!

I'm not going to bother trying to figure it all out. You have to do a better job communicating with the rest of the herd.
yardobeef Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 1:29 PM EST
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Yeah, Mitt reminds me of Al Gore in that you get the feeling he would do/say anything just to get there. Absolutely no substance to the guy.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 1:30 PM EST
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Think
He should promise us some Free Stuff.... Mellow
rfenst Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 1:48 PM EST
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Rick,

Great post (until you got to George Bush and his demon(s) and went after neo).
rfenst Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 1:50 PM EST
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yardobeef wrote:
Yeah, Mitt reminds me of Al Gore in that you get the feeling he would do/say anything just to get there. Absolutely no substance to the guy.


I don't get the feeling Mitt can be an inspirational leader. he needs to top playing so lose with the croud and formalize most of what he say by way of rousing, choreographed speeches to catcth more positive attention.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 2:10 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I don't get the feeling Mitt can be an inspirational leader. he needs to top playing so lose with the croud and formalize most of what he say by way of rousing, choreographed speeches to catcth more positive attention.



American doesn't need an "inspirational leader"! We need someone that can FIX the mess we're in. Someone that doesn't give a rat's ass about being re-elected because the heavy lifting that needs to get done will insure that this person WON'T get re-elected. The "sacred cows" need to be gutted. We need to cut where we can and the only guy with a plan like that that's running for office is Ron Paul! Mittens big deal about saving the Olympics? Done with TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!! What do you really think his big plan is gonna be?

We've already had an "inspirational leader" in the Kenyan King...with his styrofoam pillars and Malcolm X biopic lifted words. Look what he's done in 3 years to the defecits! Look at how he's treated our military! Look at how he's allowed special interests and donators to profit while his AG laughs off running guns and not prosecuting voter intimidation by the Black Panthers! America doesn't need more touchy-feely B$! What road has he fixed? What bridge was repaired?

Mittens...Neutered...Sanitorium...they're the same as Owedumba. Spend, spend, spend...double down on the spending. I hammered W for the same thing. Our current PRESidENT lied and didn't deliver on Hope or Change. He said he'd fix stuff...he's made it worse because he's not a leader at all. He's an apologetic bowing jerkwad that's lining his pockets and sneering down at America.
bloody spaniard Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 2:47 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
American doesn't need an "inspirational leader"! We need someone that can FIX the mess we're in. Someone that doesn't give a rat's ass about being re-elected because the heavy lifting that needs to get done will insure that this person WON'T get re-elected. The "sacred cows" need to be gutted. We need to cut where we can and the only guy with a plan like that that's running for office is Ron Paul! Mittens big deal about saving the Olympics? Done with TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!! What do you really think his big plan is gonna be?

We've already had an "inspirational leader" in the Kenyan King...with his styrofoam pillars and Malcolm X biopic lifted words. Look what he's done in 3 years to the defecits! Look at how he's treated our military! Look at how he's allowed special interests and donators to profit while his AG laughs off running guns and not prosecuting voter intimidation by the Black Panthers! America doesn't need more touchy-feely B$! What road has he fixed? What bridge was repaired?

Mittens...Neutered...Sanitorium...they're the same as Owedumba. Spend, spend, spend...double down on the spending. I hammered W for the same thing. Our current PRESidENT lied and didn't deliver on Hope or Change. He said he'd fix stuff...he's made it worse because he's not a leader at all. He's an apologetic bowing jerkwad that's lining his pockets and sneering down at America.





Brother, I agree with you wholeheartedly (actions speak louder than feel good speechies) but I don't think that an unselfish, unafraid, & dynamic person with deep pockets is willing to come forward to fix the mess. Look at how few are willing to sacrifice it all (career & wealth) to take a stand against Pharma & big Government...
tailgater Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:00 PM EST
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Romney wants to be president for the same reason every candidate before him did.
Hint: it's not to make America better.


Now, let's look at the candidate himself.
Rick is correct, in that he has waffled back and forth on several socially relevant topics. And he refuses to recognize the similarities between Obamacare and the public health care here in Massachusetts.

But remember that Romney was a republican governor in the bluest of blue states.
He is pre-programmed to temper any outward thoughts of conservatism with a dash or two of fruity frosting to make the left happy.

He is not a natural on the campaign trail, but his strengths as a business leader should be a welcomed breath of fresh air on Pennsylvania Ave.

The bad thing about Romney are his obvious flaws.
But the good thing about Romney is that all of his flaws are obvious, and there is no "ah-ha" moment when we all realize that he isn't who he thought he was.

Flip flop on the irrelevant or the social hot topic of the day? Who gives a rats azz?

Fix my economy, stupid. And banish the federal Obamacare. And bring some respect back to the office.

I like Romney because he is best equipped to beat Obama. His weakness in the GOP race (too liberal/moderate and his healthcare debacle in MA) can not be used against him when he faces Obama.
Most people claim to be "independent" voters. By definition, that implies that they're moderate (not a true conservative nor a true liberal).
Well, Romney is as moderate as you can get in politics today.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:16 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Romney wants to be president for the same reason every candidate before him did.
Hint: it's not to make America better.


Now, let's look at the candidate himself.
Rick is correct, in that he has waffled back and forth on several socially relevant topics. And he refuses to recognize the similarities between Obamacare and the public health care here in Massachusetts.

But remember that Romney was a republican governor in the bluest of blue states.
He is pre-programmed to temper any outward thoughts of conservatism with a dash or two of fruity frosting to make the left happy.

He is not a natural on the campaign trail, but his strengths as a business leader should be a welcomed breath of fresh air on Pennsylvania Ave.

The bad thing about Romney are his obvious flaws.
But the good thing about Romney is that all of his flaws are obvious, and there is no "ah-ha" moment when we all realize that he isn't who he thought he was.

Flip flop on the irrelevant or the social hot topic of the day? Who gives a rats azz?

Fix my economy, stupid. And banish the federal Obamacare. And bring some respect back to the office.

I like Romney because he is best equipped to beat Obama. His weakness in the GOP race (too liberal/moderate and his healthcare debacle in MA) can not be used against him when he faces Obama.
Most people claim to be "independent" voters. By definition, that implies that they're moderate (not a true conservative nor a true liberal).
Well, Romney is as moderate as you can get in politics today.




Meh...he was the MA governor because he gave the state their "free" healthcare. It was the model for the Owedumba's "hallmark". He's not going to repeal it. If he was, he'd be campaigning on that issue. He hasn't even uttered a word about hinting at that! He's NO conservative either! He has no problem throwing taxpaying dollars down the rabbit hole to see how far it goes! THAT'S why the GOP hasn't given him the big "hug" he so desperately wants. He will NEVER get it either!

Social hot topics...fixing the economy...he's not going to do a damn thing that Snooki or Paris Hilton wouldn't do! As far as respect...just getting that POS we have in there now would do...we'll throw ol' Plugs O'Biden out with the jerk just for fun. I don't see him getting the coveted independent voter either. He's a rigid tool that has no conviction but only to the mighty dollar. Then his wife despite all the money states in an open article that "she doesn't feel rich"! Well, way to talk down to anyone and everyone! Please pass the Grey Poupon!


Romney the Moderate...Shame on you

Romney is more like JOhnKErry lite. The only difference is that he earned his money by corporate raiding and predator lending...the other coiffed well kept man married into the dough!

That's the way I see the guy...he's no better than the clown in there with the exception that he can't be re-elected and the danger with a man like him without that reign is one America would be better served in not knowing the outcomes!
bloody spaniard Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:30 PM EST
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Look, in a perfect world, people would work together for the common good. Then if their ideas didn't work, they would admit to their failure, apologize, and bow out with a self- imposed term limit. That ain't going to happen.

In this day and age, politics has turned into an "all you can eat" buffet where the politician promises the voter as much grub as his constituent wants for a small price and practically no time limit at the trough. The politician (regardless of party) grabs as much as he can from the till and leaves when he's good an ready because the object of his buffalo wing feast is too fat and content to vote him out.

Get used to it. I've tried bucking the trend for decades to no effect. To paraphrase Drafter, offer 'em free stuff & they'll keep voting for you. I've decided this time around that Obama has blown it despite his excuses that Republicans stonewalled him etc. and has lost the privilege to be President again. Unlike most blacks and other ethnic/racial groups who will march in a short bus goosestep and vote for him regardless of performance, I will not.
daveincincy Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:32 PM EST
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like I said, it's all about ego with these guys that want to become President (Ron Paul may be an exception).

Recently, a friend who works for a Fortune 500 (probably a Fortune 100) company was telling us about the time this big marketing firm came into their work to talk about marketing a brand. It was the same marketing firm that was hired by the Clinton campaign when Bob Dole was running. They talked about all the research they did to put together the best "marketing" campaign together for Clinton. Their research showed that people didn't like negative campaigning, but they learned that they could run an ad basically bad-mouthing Dole for XX seconds, and as long as they didn't go over XX seconds and ended the commercial with about 2 seconds of Clinton saying something positive, then a majority of the people wouldn't see it as negative. They would even go as far as changing the coloring in the ads and pics when they'd talk about Bob Dole (i.e. black and white, or darken it up a bit), but would make sure to brighten it up and use more color when showing Bill Clinton. They wouldn't even try and target a broad base of people. They knew they didn't have make ads to appeal to those who would vote for Clinton no matte what, and knew they weren't going to sway those on the other end of scale either (Captain Obvious stuff I guess). They knew they had to reach this one target "market" and they put all their efforts into that group. Maybe with Bob Dole as a presidential candidate it didn't take much, and I'm not really doing it any justice to repeat the stuff my friend mentioned. But after hearing how much money is spent in just marketing a president, simply to win based more or less on a brand, rather than a person's ability...which is pretty much how most President's get elected, it just confirmed to me that people really are idiots and none of these guys are really worthy of being president. These marketing firms are good at what they do, and after each election they have another 4 years to perfect their skill, and that is simply to draw people towards a certain candidate and win elections.

Anyway, the cliff notes version is....these egomaniacs running for president put all their efforts into marketing themselves. They spend a whole lot of time, effort, and resources (money) putting their brand out there and touting it as the best...mostly based on fancy packaging and not based on how it will function...which, for the most part, turns out to be a box, stamped "guaranteed," with a piece of crap in it. The thought process for choosing a president is probably not much different than when someone goes to the mall to pick out some clothes, a tv, or car shops...influenced by the marketing.

Politics bore the he!! out of me. And, personally, I'm probably more shocked at the large number of people who go out to vote versus the large number of people who don't vote at all. I'm almost more inclined to believe the people who stay home and not vote are smarter than 80% of those who go out to vote, since it's probably those 80% who vote based solely on warm and fuzzy ads and/or political party. Yea, I'm probably being Captain Obvious again. :shrug:
wheelrite Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:35 PM EST
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I think America needs a Alzheimer Patient as President,that can't type or spell...


and loves red font

and Has a Foil Sombrero..
DrMaddVibe Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:35 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Look, in a perfect world, people would work together for the common good. Then if their ideas didn't work, they would admit to their failure, apologize, and bow out with a self- imposed term limit. That ain't going to happen.

In this day and age, politics has turned into an "all you can eat" buffet where the politician promises the voter as much grub as his constituent wants for a small price and practically no time limit at the trough. The politician (regardless of party) grabs as much as he can from the till and leaves when he's good an ready because the object of his buffalo wing feast is too fat and content to vote him out.

Get used to it. I've tried bucking the trend for decades to no effect. To paraphrase Drafter, offer 'em free stuff & they'll keep voting for you. I've decided this time around that Obama has blown it despite his excuses that Republicans stonewalled him etc. and has lost the privilege to be President again. Unlike most blacks and other ethnic/racial groups who will march in a short bus goosestep and vote for him regardless of performance, I will not.



Ahem...the clown had 2 unfettered years of COMPLETE Democratic control of the House and Senate! Doesn't get any less "stonewalled" than that!

Look at how History has proved H. Ross Perot correct. The crazy old grandma in the basement...the national debt AND that giant sucking sound...NAFTA...oh, if only America had listened then. If only they'd listen to Paul now. I hear ya...hell I worked for the Alan Keyes campaign in the Detroit Metro area...talk about going uphill...both ways...in the snow...everyday...without a jacket...oh, I hear ya!
bloody spaniard Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 3:49 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Ahem...the clown had 2 unfettered years of COMPLETE Democratic control of the House and Senate! Doesn't get any less "stonewalled" than that!

Look at how History has proved H. Ross Perot correct. The crazy old grandma in the basement...the national debt AND that giant sucking sound...NAFTA...oh, if only America had listened then. If only they'd listen to Paul now. I hear ya...hell I worked for the Alan Keyes campaign in the Detroit Metro area...talk about going uphill...both ways...in the snow...everyday...without a jacket...oh, I hear ya!



Yep, I hear ya too, brother. I loved Alan Keyes especially after his performance against Obama in the Chicago debates.
...and Perot was right. I was one of those lemmings who got his Republican papers, supported NAFTA and ignored Perot (mostly for physical/personality flaws).


Haven't read Daveincincy's looooong post yet...Anxious
daveincincy Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 4:00 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Haven't read Daveincincy's looooong post yet...Anxious


Don't bother...I'm just thinking outloud. Shhh
bloody spaniard Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 4:04 PM EST
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daveincincy wrote:
Don't bother...I'm just thinking outloud. Shhh



LMAO! You're in some sort of IT, aintcha?Applause
daveincincy Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 4:09 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
LMAO! You're in some sort of IT, aintcha?Applause


nope...just bored.
bloody spaniard Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 4:22 PM EST
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Referring to your writing style- full of minutiae. Made me think you worked in a technical field (writing tech manuals, separating fly sxxt in ground pepper, etc.). But then again I like shiny things.Drool

Bored?! What's that????
I usually feel like I'm in a phone booth doing 12 rounds with Randall "Tex" Cobb (Raising Arizona).
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#30 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 5:11 PM EST
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DMV and Bloody Spaniard both Keyes fans? Cool. I voted for him in the '96 Republican primary. When the idiots picked Dole, I joined the Libertarians and voted for Browne.
bloody spaniard Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Mar 15 2012, 6:40 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
DMV and Bloody Spaniard both Keyes fans? Cool. I voted for him in the '96 Republican primary. When the idiots picked Dole, I joined the Libertarians and voted for Browne.


You know, I think I voted for him as well. Applause
Only problem that I have with Keyes is that his campaign ended owing a lot of money. There were books/expenses that were never fully explained... but I blame his campaign organizers more than I blame him.
Stinkdyr Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Mar 16 2012, 8:46 AM EST
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I really wish Maobama had died..............not that he is a bad guy or anything. I just really would get a good laugh out of hearing more President Biden speeches on national tv.


LOL
MikeyRavioli Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Mar 19 2012, 12:56 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:

president obama can give his speech about why he is going to tell the republican leaders can go9 F themselves,
he isn't running again so he does not have to put up with their s**t anymore and he can try to fix what the bush's
did to all but destroy this country/

he can smoke in public and georege can start getting drunk in public again.

and maybe the woman who had the had an abortion to protect the bush family will show all the records and take the million larry flint has in escrow for her.



Nevermind that he had 2 years of control over the Oval office and both houses and managed to do jack sh*t. the country was so anti-Bush and anti-Republican that they voted for a guy who isnt qualified to run the White House Easter egg hunt much less sit in the big boy chair and it took him all of two years to reverse that sentiment enough to lose his full control.

Romney has great hair and from what I have heard minty fresh breath. Plus he is a rich older white guy and we all know rich older white guys are the only ones who can save us.

The Kennedy's and Clinton make the Republicans look like the NOW. If it did happen, abortion right or wrong, is legal. Drowning a campaign worker and not reporting it until the next morning is not. Stuffing a cigar in a chubby 18 yo intern and then spooging on her dress is gray.
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#34 Posted: Mon, Mar 19 2012, 1:17 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Dang.......even went after Neopuritan.


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