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The "Boss", aka Bruce Hypocritsteen
tailgater Offline
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Springsteen slams 'greedy' bankers during concert
By Reuters
May 31, 2012, 9:31 am
MSN.com
BERLIN -- Rocker Bruce Springsteen touched on a nerve of widespread discontent with the financiers and bankers at a Berlin concert on Wednesday, railing against them as "greedy thieves" and "robber barons."

Springsteen, a singer-songwriter dubbed "The Boss" who has long championed populist causes, played to a sold-out crowd at Berlin's Olympic Stadium, singing from his album "Wrecking Ball" and speaking about tough economic times that have put people out of work worldwide and led to debt crises in Greece and other countries.

"In America, a lot of people have lost their jobs," said Springsteen, 62, who performed for three hours to some 58,000 fans in the packed stadium that hosted the 1936 Olympics and the 2006 World Cup final.

"But also in Europe and in Berlin, times are tough," he added, speaking in fluent German. "This song is for all those who are struggling." He then introduced "Jack of All Trades", a withering attack on bankers that includes the lyrics: "The banker man grows fat, working man grows thin."

Europe has been especially hard hit since 2008's financial meltdown that sparked an enduring sovereign debt crisis. Unemployment on the continent has risen to levels not seen since the 1990s.

Springsteen's "Wrecking Ball" tour began on May 13 in Spain, which is struggling with its crushing debt load, and it runs for 2-1/2 months with 33 stops in 15 countries before concluding on July 31 in Helsinki.

Berlin, largely a working class city, has been a special place for Springsteen since his July 1988 concert behind the old Iron Curtain in East Berlin.

Watched by 160,000 people, or about 1 percent of then Communist East Germany's population, it was the biggest rock show in East German history, and The Boss boldly spoke out against the "barriers" keeping East Germans in their portion of the city.

Some historians have said the concert fed into a movement gaining moment at the time that contributed to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall 16 months later in November 1989.

"Once in a while you play a place, a show that ends up staying inside of you, living with you for the rest of your life," he told the crowd on Wednesday after being handed a poster from a fan thanking him for the 1988 concert. "East Berlin in 1988 was certainly one of them."

Even though Germany has managed to come through the current financial crisis in fairly good shape, Berlin itself is struggling with a double-digit unemployment rate, low wages and a high poverty. And some of the lyrics in Springsteen's "Wrecking Ball" album clearly struck a chord with the crowd.

In "Shackled and Drawn", Springsteen sings about "Gambling man rolls the dice, working man pays the bill. It's still fat and easy up on banker's hill. Up on banker's hill the party's going strong, down here below we're shackled and drawn."

With "Easy Money", Springsteen rips into the "fat cats" who will "just think it's funny ... when you're whole world comes tumbling down." In "Death to My hometown", Springsteen assails the "greedy thieves and robber barons" who "destroyed our families, factories and they took our homes." In the song "Wrecking Ball", he sings: "Hold tight to your anger."

"The financial world has caused us all a lot of our problems and Springsteen has always been a critical spirit - that's what I like about him," said Kathleen Wapp, a 42-year-old doctor's assistant from Wolfsburg who was at the show. "I like the way he's not afraid to put a critical light on the key issues."

"I think it's great the way he's taking on the banking industry - he's got it dead right," said Matthias Beck, 46, a carpenter from Leipzig. "There's hardly anything good about banks. They take advantage of the little people, and it's always hard to find someone who'll take responsibility when it all goes wrong."


The Springteen world tour continues in North America this summer.
Tickets start at $100...
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The problem with pro athletes, pro misicians and actors is there is always someone putting a microphone in there
face! They are given a platform to spew whatever BS they want and it seems there are PLENTY of numbsculls
listening.......
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matchew wrote:
The problem with pro athletes, pro misicians and actors is there is always someone putting a microphone in there
face! They are given a platform to spew whatever BS they want and it seems there are PLENTY of numbsculls
listening.......


If only you could have a mic.
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Typical Jersey trash!horse
tailgater Offline
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Rich bankers = pigs
Rich rock stars = idol

I guess it's only OTHERS greed that make the list of top 7 sins.

Or does 99% of the $100 ticket go to the masses???

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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Typical Jersy trash!horse



It's a Jersey thing.
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tailgater wrote:
Rich bankers = pigs
Rich rock stars = idol

I guess it's only OTHERS greed that make the list of top 7 sins.

Or does 99% of the $100 ticket go to the masses???




Spend more than a hundred bucks to see this short squatty guy make sounds with his throat that are a cross between a constipated gorilla or a guy that's drank a couple quarts of Draino.

He's just flat out terrible. I'd never bother to go see this clown again. I dated a girl that was addicted to this guy...always said I hadn't lived till I saw a 4 hour show of Brucie. Well, I did. I wanted my money back. I wanted my time back. Just terrible. One hour worth of music and 3 hours of him ranting. Now that Clarence is gone there's nothing to see without a pair of binoculars!
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Is this the same guy who uses a loophole in NJ Farmland Assessment Act to pay under $5,000 in property taxes on 200 acres of his compound? Under this act it qualifies as a “working” farm because he, err…. I mean his grounds keeper, grows some veggies and cares for a few horses.

Then there’s Bon Jovi. His tax bill on nearly 7 acres of land in NJ is about $100 because he, errr… I mean his bee keeper, raises bees.

How about Bono’s ONE non-profit organization. They took in nearly $15 million in public donations and distributed under $200k to three charities. Executive and employee salaries totaled over $8 million. They defended it because ONE is an “advocacy and campaigning organization” rather than a real provider for the poor and needy.

What a bunch of two faced hypocrites.
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Only conservatives are allowed to use tax loopholes! Everyone knows that.
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Schweet SCHWEET hypocrisy..........the rest of you little taxpayer slaves can eat some cake!

Boo hoo!
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What pisses me off the most about liberals is that they are using tax loopholes to save on taxes while conservatives are sacrificing by sending the federal government extra to pay for the wars they championed.
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It’s not about using the tax loopholes. Any and all should take advantage of them as best they can as long as it’s legal and as long they remain open. It’s preaching about “the man” and the big bad meanies with all the money only to turn around and do the same as the “bad guys.”

Hypocrites
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BuckyB93 wrote:
It’s not about using the tax loopholes. Any and all should take advantage of them as best they can as long as it’s legal and as long they remain open. It’s preaching about “the man” and the big bad meanies with all the money only to turn around and do the same as the “bad guys.”

Hypocrites



The mere fact that you have to even stoop that low to explain it means he won't ever get it.

Time to thin the herd.

Let him explain his time on this site to his wife and kids. We don't need to explain a single thing to a moron devoid of a brain...er someone in Jersey.
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BuckyB93 wrote:
It’s not about using the tax loopholes. Any and all should take advantage of them as best they can as long as it’s legal and as long they remain open. It’s preaching about “the man” and the big bad meanies with all the money only to turn around and do the same as the “bad guys.”

Hypocrites


Don't waste your breath on fuzzy.

Of course this is about hypocrisy. Just read the thread title.
But fuzzy is mad because we made fun of the boss, and you compounded it with a blow to Bon Jovi.
Careful which exit you get off next time you're driving through the "garden" state.
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We're in less wars now Fuzzy?

Obama is Bush III live with it, don't deny the truth.
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Yeah, I know. I almost walked into Baiterville.

As for driving in Jersey... the Garden State Parkway is probably one of the suckiest drives I've ever done.
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BuckyB93 wrote:
It’s not about using the tax loopholes. Any and all should take advantage of them as best they can as long as it’s legal and as long they remain open. It’s preaching about “the man” and the big bad meanies with all the money only to turn around and do the same as the “bad guys.”

Hypocrites


Springsteen operates the same way as a bank? If one advocates for less tax yet continues to pay the higher amount, is that person a hippo crate as well?
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Yeah, I know. I almost walked into Baiterville.

As for driving in Jersey... the Garden State Parkway is probably one of the suckiest drives I've ever done.



Well it's a damn good thing you didn't wizz with your Bon Jovi and leave a Boss in the toilet!

Don't forget to wipe your Snooki!whip
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Well it's a damn good thing you didn't wizz with your Bon Jovi and leave a Boss in the toilet!

Don't forget to wipe your Snooki!whip

LMAO!!LOL
HockeyDad Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Well it's a damn good thing you didn't wizz with your Bon Jovi and leave a Boss in the toilet!

Don't forget to wipe your Snooki!whip



Now that is just outrageous.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Now that is just outrageous.



We don't make the Jersey Shore...we make the Jersey Shore a living testament to anyone with an IQ above 5 to laugh at...not emulate!


You see one of those Affliction wearing, duck lip posin', orange skinned tan bedding, wannabe New Yorker talkin', vodka bad drunk, hair greased slicked/teased up like the WTC, or no job POS on tv or if you have to ever actually be near one...THAT'S outrageous!
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ZRX1200 wrote:
We're in less wars now Fuzzy?

Obama is Bush III live with it, don't deny the truth.


Well, one less, you may remember Iraq. But yes, I agree, Obama is not a pacifist, far from it. He's killed more al-Qaeda than Bush, killed Bin Laden, put the drone program on steroids. He's also continued many of the horrible Bush policies regarding civil rights and privacy. He is definitely not a progressive on all issues, he's 'severely' conservative on a lot. Borrowing money from China to pay for killing and bombing and maiming is ok, but baby jesus frowns when you use the money to pay for a poor kid's lunch.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Well, one less, you may remember Iraq. But yes, I agree, Obama is not a pacifist, far from it. He's killed more al-Qaeda than Bush, killed Bin Laden, put the drone program on steroids. He's also continued many of the horrible Bush policies regarding civil rights and privacy. He is definitely not a progressive on all issues, he's 'severely' conservative on a lot. Borrowing money from China to pay for killing and bombing and maiming is ok, but baby jesus frowns when you use the money to pay for a poor kid's lunch.



It must be in the Jersey trash's blood to be a pure hypocrite!
tailgater Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Well, one less, you may remember Iraq. But yes, I agree, Obama is not a pacifist, far from it. He's killed more al-Qaeda than Bush, killed Bin Laden, put the drone program on steroids. He's also continued many of the horrible Bush policies regarding civil rights and privacy. He is definitely not a progressive on all issues, he's 'severely' conservative on a lot. Borrowing money from China to pay for killing and bombing and maiming is ok, but baby jesus frowns when you use the money to pay for a poor kid's lunch.


How'd we get from the Boss being a hypocrite to this political BS?
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How The Super Rich Avoid Taxes Even As They Demand That The Rest Of Us Pay More

The way that we tax people in the United States is fundamentally broken and should be completely discarded. The U.S. tax code is absolutely

riddled with loopholes that allow the super rich to legally avoid taxes while many of the rest of us are being taxed into oblivion. In our system of taxation, middle class families that work hard and try to play by the rules are deeply penalized while those that are willing to abuse the system make out like bandits. There is something fundamentally wrong with a system that enables wealthy politicians such as Barack Obama and Mitt Romney to pay a smaller percentage of their incomes in taxes than millions of middle class families. Mitt Romney has millions of dollars parked down in the Cayman Islands and in other tax havens. He does this to avoid taxes. Unfortunately, most Americans do not have the resources to funnel money through offshore tax havens. Most Americans just automatically have their paychecks shredded by taxes and then try to live on whatever is left over. Most Americans are just trying to survive financially from one month to the next. But the super rich have options. Thanks to technology, they can live almost anywhere they want and they can run their companies and manage their investments from anywhere in the world. The truth is that the wealthier you are thethe easier it is to avoid taxes. But even as the ultra-wealthy do their best to avoid taxes, many of them still feel free to demand that the rest of us be taxed more. So what are some of the ways that the super rich avoid taxes?

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You could write an entire series of books on the technical details of how this gets done.

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Sadly, tax avoidance by the wealthy is not just something that happens in the United States. The truth is that the exact same kind of thing happens in the UK as well.

There is not an easy fix to this problem. Our politicians have had decades to try to come up with a fair tax system and they have completely failed. The wealthy are always several steps ahead of them.

But federal taxes are not the only taxes that can be avoided. The vast difference in state tax rates creates another opportunity.

One advantage that wealthy Americans have is that they are far more mobile than most other Americans are. So if they don't like the tax system in one state they can simply pick up and move to another state.

According to the Tax Foundation, 3.4 million Americans left New York state between 2000 and 2010.

So where did they go?

The following is from a recent CNS News article....

Where are they escaping to? The Tax Foundation found that more than 600,000 New York residents moved to Florida over the decade –opting perhaps for the Sunshine State’s more lenient tax system –taking nearly $20 billion in adjusted growth income with them.

There is no state income tax in Florida. So moving from New York to Florida can end up saving you a bundle.

The same kind of migration is happening out west as well. According to that same CNS article, hundreds of thousands of people have been moving from California (a high tax state) to Texas (no state income tax)....

Between 2000 and 2010, the most recent data available, 551,914 people left California for Texas, taking $14.3 billion in income. Texas has no state income tax or estate tax.

A total of 48,877 people moved to Texas from California between 2009 and 2010 alone, totaling $1.2 billion in income. Another 28,088 from California relocated to Nevada and 30,663 to Arizona, a loss of $699.1 million and $707.8 million in income respectively.

Not that anyone really needs much of an excuse to move away from California. It is rapidly decaying right in front of our eyes.

But a lot of families do not have the same options that wealthy people do. Unfortunately, most average Americans are tied to their jobs and it would be much more difficult for them to pick up and move across the country. In this economy it can be economic suicide to give up a good job.

The reality is that most of us simply do not have the resources to play the same kinds of games that the wealthy play.

Sadly, even our most prominent politicians avoid taxes.

Just look at Massachusetts Senator John Kerry. He has avoided approximately $500,000 in taxes by docking his yacht in Rhode Island rather than in Massachusetts.

Yet Kerry sure does love to call for more taxes on the rest of us, doesn't he?

Now let's talk about the "super rich" and the "ultra-wealthy". For many people that are worth billions of dollars, tax avoidance has become an art from.

Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin made national headlines recently when he gave up his U.S. citizenship, but the truth is that his case is small potatoes compared to the global elite and the shadow banking system that supports them.

According to the IMF, the global elite are holding a total of 18 trillion dollars in offshore banks.

That amount is more than the GDP of the United States for an entire year.

So what do I mean by "offshore banks"? I defined the term in a previous article....

Well, the term originally developed because the banks on the Channel Islands were "offshore" from the United Kingdom. Most "offshore banks" are still located on islands today. The Cayman Islands, Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Isle of Man are examples of this. Other "offshore banking centers" such as Monaco are actually not "offshore" at all, but the term applies to them anyway.

Traditionally, these offshore banking centers have been very attractive to both criminals and to the global elite because they would not tell anyone (including governments) about the money that anyone had parked there.

It has been reported that 80 percent of all international banking transactions involve offshore banks. A whopping 1.4 trillion dollars is being held in offshore banks in the Cayman Islands alone.

An article that appeared in the Guardian estimated that a third of all the wealth on the entire planet is being kept in offshore banks. One of the primary reasons for this is tax avoidance.

A lot of wealthy individuals never even visit these tax havens and yet reap the benefits anyway. The truth is that tax avoidance has become way too easy. The following example is from a recent Politico article....

A plausible scenario plays out like this: I hire an accountant. Doing her job, my accountant tells me that if I sign a few legal documents and route my money through a small Caribbean island, I could keep more of my paycheck and pay a lower tax rate. I may have earned my money in the United States, but legally I can claim that it was, in fact, earned in a tax haven.

Are you disgusted yet?

You should be.

But even though they avoid taxes like the plague, many of these elitists have the gall to call for higher taxes on all the rest of us.

For example, let's review what the managing director of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, said in a recent interview....

"Do you know what? As far as Athens is concerned, I also think about all those people who are trying to escape tax all the time. All these people in Greece who are trying to escape tax."

Even more than she thinks about all those now struggling to survive without jobs or public services? "I think of them equally. And I think they should also help themselves collectively." How? "By all paying their tax. Yeah."

It sounds as if she's essentially saying to the Greeks and others in Europe, you've had a nice time and now it's payback time.

"That's right." She nods calmly. "Yeah."

And what about their children, who can't conceivably be held responsible? "Well, hey, parents are responsible, right? So parents have to pay their tax."

Well, it turns out that she doesn't pay any income taxes at all on her own income....

The IMF chief Christine Lagarde was accused of hypocrisy yesterday after it emerged that she pays no income tax – just days after blaming the Greeks for causing their financial peril by dodging their own bills.

The managing director of the International Monetary Fund is paid a salary of $467,940 (£298,675), automatically increased every year according to inflation. On top of that she receives an allowance of $83,760 – payable without "justification" – and additional expenses for entertainment, making her total package worth more than the amount received by US President Barack Obama according to reports last night.

Her "diplomatic status" allows her to escape all income taxes.

So perhaps she should pay her "fair share" before pointing the finger at anyone else.

But she is not the only one being hypocritical.

The super rich claim that they should pay lower taxes on investment income for the good of our "capitalist system", but when their banks are about to go under they are more than happy to have those losses be socialized.

As I wrote about yesterday, the stage is already set for another massive round of bailouts when the next great financial crisis strikes. Once again our taxes will pay for the mistakes of the ultra-wealthy.

The truth is that our system is fundamentally broken.

We need to abolish the income tax and shut down the IRS.

Those two steps alone would do wonders for our economic system.

We also need to shut down the Federal Reserve and break up the too big to fail banks.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of our politicians are not even willing to consider any of those solutions.

So our fundamentally broken system will continue to chug along.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Springsteen operates the same way as a bank? If one advocates for less tax yet continues to pay the higher amount, is that person a hippo crate as well?



Where in the world did I mention anything about banks? Since you brought it up, let's look at another resident of Hypocra City.

Alec Baldwin. Supporter of Occupy Wall Street and bitches about the big bad banks but then cashes checks as being the spokesman for Capital One.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVE7haSLmE

Not to put words in your mouth, just a simple prediction to your response so I'll save you some typing, Fuzz: "He donated the money he got to charities for the arts."

Hurraaayyy!!!! A modern day Robin Hood! He did it out of the kindness of his heart.

If you believe that I have a bridge in Jersey for sale. (I'll bet my left nut that he claimed it as income and a tax write off).
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tailgater wrote:
How'd we get from the Boss being a hypocrite to this political BS?


Golly, I don't know and it's a great question. I wish there was a way to determine this like glancing back at the previous posts or something.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Golly, I don't know and it's a great question. I wish there was a way to determine this like glancing back at the previous posts or something.


#9 was the first political post void of mentioning a rock star.

Let's see. Who posted that one....?
Hmmmmmm....

Try not to live up to your reputation each and every thread.
FuzzNJ Offline
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tailgater wrote:
#9 was the first political post void of mentioning a rock star.

Let's see. Who posted that one....?
Hmmmmmm....

Try not to live up to your reputation each and every thread.


A post in the Political forum about a rock star being a hypocrite about taxes while he talks about the banking system goes out of its way to be non-political. It's common sense.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
A post in the Political forum about a rock star being a hypocrite about taxes while he talks about the banking system goes out of its way to be non-political. It's common sense.



First you tell me to "glance back and read previous posts".
Now you tell me it's because the thread exists in the political forum.

And you top it off with "it's common sense", as if you understand the concept.



I was talking about hypocrisy.
You decided to post about the war efforts.

Both political, but entirely different topics, with no logical segue connecting the two.




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FuzzNJ wrote:
...Borrowing money from China to pay for killing and bombing and maiming is ok, but baby jesus frowns when you use the money to pay for a poor kid's lunch.


Dear Lord baby Jesus, lyin' there in your ghost manger, just lookin' at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin' 'bout shapes and colors. I would like to thank you for bringin' me and my mama together, and also that my kids no longer sound like retarded gang-bangers.Frying pan
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I like to picture Jesus as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I like to picture Jesus as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey.


Jesus on skates.
Kinda ruins that whole "footprints" thingy.
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Obamabush is speaking right now in Minnesota.

4 more years of Hopeless Changey!


Herfing
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why do yall keep making fun of wheels substitute gardener/handyman/sex surrogate?
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tailgater wrote:
Jesus on skates.
Kinda ruins that whole "footprints" thingy.



We don't make the Jesus on skates...me make the Jesus on skates skatier.


Bozy bozy bop zitty bop!
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Don't like the man? Don't like the sound? Don't like the words? Don't like the message? Don't like that he's rich beyond your dreams? Don't like his legal financial planning and tax strategy? No one is making you listen to or buy the music or pay to go see the show. Now, get off the rag and find something else trivial to bitch and moan about!
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rfenst wrote:
Don't like the man? Don't like the sound? Don't like the words? Don't like the message? Don't like that he's rich beyond? Don't like his legal financial planning and tax strategy? No one is making you listen to or buy the music or pay to go see the show. Now, get off the rag and find something else trivial to bitch and moan about!



Hypocrite apologist!
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rfenst wrote:
Don't like the man? Don't like the sound? Don't like the words? Don't like the message? Don't like that he's rich beyond your dreams? Don't like his legal financial planning and tax strategy? No one is making you listen to or buy the music or pay to go see the show. Now, get off the rag and find something else trivial to bitch and moan about!

But Robert, this thread is proof that things must be getting better cuz there must be less real problems. if this is truly an issue to anyone of any political bent, I suppose.

Thousands of channels/stations and nothing's on.

I'm gonna do a crossword.
rfenst Offline
#40 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
But Robert, this thread is proof that things must be getting better cuz there must be less real problems. if this is truly an issue to anyone of any political bent, I suppose.

Thousands of channels/stations and nothing's on.

I'm gonna do a crossword.


I am gonna have a bowl of Special K, read the news and go outside and spray some weeds before it rains another couple inches again today!

(No soccer this weekend- it is try-out time and we have humongous mess on her hands the likes of which only divine intervention or called in BIG FAVORS can fix...)
frankj1 Offline
#41 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I am gonna have a bowl of Special K, read the news and go outside and spray some weeds before it rains another couple inches again today!

(No soccer this weekend- it is try-out time and we have humongous mess on her hands the likes of which only divine intervention or called in BIG FAVORS can fix...)

hmmm, I wonder what rock stars eat for breakfast. wrong forum I suppose.
Good to know what attorney stars eat though, thanks!

forget divine intervention, maybe a grant from a rock star foundation though...
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#42 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:

The Springteen world tour continues in North America this summer.
Tickets start at $100...

Remember when concert tickets where less than $10.

$100 to see Springsteen... no thanks!!! I'll give you $10 for the ticket.
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#43 Posted:
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Rnfest has good advice. It looks like Springsteen should eat more fiber.
FuzzNJ Offline
#44 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Rnfest has good advice. It looks like Springsteen should eat more fiber.


I have never been a fan of his music, but for a guy over 60, he's in great shape.
tailgater Offline
#45 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I have never been a fan of his music, but for a guy over 60, he's in great shape.


I believe the fiber comment was intended to imply that he's full of sh*t.
If it wasn't, it should have been.
FuzzNJ Offline
#46 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I believe the fiber comment was intended to imply that he's full of sh*t.
If it wasn't, it should have been.


don't care. still in great shape for a guy his age.
tailgater Offline
#47 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Don't like the man? Don't like the sound? Don't like the words? Don't like the message? Don't like that he's rich beyond your dreams? Don't like his legal financial planning and tax strategy? No one is making you listen to or buy the music or pay to go see the show. Now, get off the rag and find something else trivial to bitch and moan about!


This isn't about Bruce Springsteen the musician.
I still listen to a lot of his stuff.

I can't stand hypocrisy, plain and simple.
The guy is moaning about rich bankers who have a fraction of his net worth.
He claims to be for the "working man" but charges $100 for the cheap seats.

I believe in the "practice what you preach" mentality.
To do otherwise proves lack of character.
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#48 Posted:
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Posts: 55,444
tailgater wrote:
This isn't about Bruce Springsteen the musician.
I still listen to a lot of his stuff.

I can't stand hypocrisy, plain and simple.
The guy is moaning about rich bankers who have a fraction of his net worth.
He claims to be for the "working man" but charges $100 for the cheap seats.

I believe in the "practice what you preach" mentality.
To do otherwise proves lack of character.



Well, there you have it. The plain and simple explanation right out in the open. It should be quite apparent for all to see and know. Some have their heads so far up their own asses or would provide cover for his type of shenanigans. Call them out to the open when you see them. I don't care if you like the guy, belong to the same party or are related to the people. Understand and recognize hypocrisy when you see it. Acting all doe eyed or ignorant isn't fooling a damn soul.

As for the guys music...YUCK! VASTLY overrated. A handful of songs...Glory Days, Cadillac Ranch, Tunnel of Love, My Hometown and Lucky Town...after that it turns into a bunch of screaming nonsense that I don't need to hear again. Another bloated rockstar that wails on the way up about The Man or The Establishment and then becomes it. In my mind they're actually worse than a politician. A modern day philosopher with the power to influence and in the end turns into a greedy douchebag. Suppose it's just the Jersey in him, he can't help himself. He's tainted to begin with and bought into the whole "Boss" moniker! Sometimes he does good stuff...stocks food kitchens...helps disabled fans...but really isn't that what he's supposed to do with his fame? You can either turn into an Elvis or Michael Jackson and isolate everyone or act more like Fishbone, The Offspring and Smash Mouth and give back to the fans. You won't get rich their way, but you won't have to pay for bodyguards either!
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#49 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
tailgater wrote:
This isn't about Bruce Springsteen the musician.
I still listen to a lot of his stuff.

I can't stand hypocrisy, plain and simple.
The guy is moaning about rich bankers who have a fraction of his net worth.
He claims to be for the "working man" but charges $100 for the cheap seats.

I believe in the "practice what you preach" mentality.
To do otherwise proves lack of character.


Why is it hypocrisy for a liberal to have wealth and still advocate for policies that benefit the poor?

Is it also hypocrisy for someone like Ted Nugent, Limbaugh, Romney, Cheney et al who advocate for military force all the time yet actively avoided service themselves?

I smoke. I tell my kids not to. Am I a hypocrite or am I speaking from experience?
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#50 Posted:
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Posts: 46,135
FuzzNJ wrote:
Is it also hypocrisy for someone like Ted Nugent, Limbaugh, Romney, Cheney et al who advocate for military force all the time yet actively avoided service themselves?



Yes it is.
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