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Appearing together on ABC’s “This Week,’’ Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom and Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter offered competing takes on the presumptive Republican nominee’s jobs record.

“Actually, when Mitt Romney arrived, Massachusetts was an economic basket house,’’ Fehrnstrom said. “If you throw D.C. into the mix, we were 51 out of 51. By the time Mitt Romney left four years later, we were in the middle of the pack.

First of all, I don't know by what standards they are ranking the states, but that information is almost certainly inaccurate.

But more to the point, you can't possibly suggest that a single attempt by the "Romney Camp" to put perspective on the Governors results is somehow equal to the 3+ years that the Obama regime has invested into their blame-a-thon.

Oh sheeeit!

Wouldn't the real measure of success be what the numbers looked like AFTER their policies were in effect?

By that we can see a much better picture.

Mittens, who ran a left leaning bastion away from the rocks and gave the state a chance to survive. Owedumba, who racked up debt and piled it all on the backs of kids so he could bail out Wall Street, unions, automotive companies and doomed a nation's credit rating to make us a 2nd class citizen.

Did you win?!

Or you.

Romney's camp is basically saying that he improved the standing of the state.
To do so, they have to explain where it was prior to his arrival.

How is this "blaming" anyone?

You should switch to doing laundry today. The dusting has obviously caused your allergies to impair your reasoning skills.

Why is Fuzz such a flaming idiot????? Please someone???


Ron

I heard he's going on tour....

ROMNEY: [Obama] was very critical of his predecessor for the debts his predecessor put in place. And sure it’s true you can’t blame one party or the other for all the debts this country has, because both parties in my opinion have spent too much and borrowed too much when they were in power. But he was very critical of his predecessor because the predecessor put together $4 trillion of debt over eight years. This president however — oh, by the way, he said that doing that was unpatriotic, irresponsible and unpatriotic. And he said he would cut the debt in half if he became president.Instead he doubled it, alright, he doubled it.”

ERIK FERHNSTROM: Actually, when Mitt Romney arrived, Massachusetts was an economic basket house. If you throw D.C. into the mix, we were 51 out of 51. By the time Mitt Romney left four years later, we were in the middle of the pack. We were 30th in the nation in terms of job growth. That’s the trend line that you want to see.

The three governors of Massachusets prior to Romney were all Republicans

Romney, you see, inherited “an economic basket house” from his predecessor, Gov. Jane Swift. So he can’t really be blamed for that. But by the end of Romney’s term, as Ferhnstrom points out, job growth had increased and “that’s the trend line that you want to see. That’s called a turnaround.”

It’s an interesting theory; it also seems strangely familiar.

And how much did job growth increase? What was the extent of this “Massachusetts miracle?” In 2006, the year that Ferhnstrom wants the public to focus upon as Romney’s final year as governor, the number of jobs in the Bay State economy grew 1.3 percent. Here are two ways to put that into context:

1.) Nationwide in 2006, job growth was 1.5 percent. So even under the best spin offered by his campaign, using the year hand-selected by his staff, job growth under Romney slightly lagged the national average.

2.) In his last year as governor, Romney “produced” job growth of 1.3 percent, which Fehrnstrom lauds as “the trend line that you want to see. That’s called a turnaround.” Over the last year, the American economy under President Obama has produced identical job growth numbers of 1.3 percent, which according to Fehrnstrom means “this president is not adding jobs fast enough.”

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Fuzz,
Now we're talking talking something very different from what the thread title claims.
You want to talk performance in job growth, fine. That isn't placing blame, however, and that was your focus until you realized that it was a losing battle.

But let's talk Romney and his job in MA.
Tell me his hands weren't tied.
Not like the President since 2010. No, MA doesn't merely have a "majority" of democrats on beacon hill. It's the most democratic state in the nation and our house and senate continually fought Romney every step of the way.
Even on trivial things, such as trying to oust a sitting university chancellor without having to pay several hundred $K plus benefits for his pension. The house speaker called out Romney and virtually taunted him, letting him know who was "really" in charge of the state.
It was embarrassing, and Romney had no authority to do anything about it.

Romney made some mistakes, that's for sure. The biggest of which is the health care initiative. But look back and realize that this was going to happen with or without him. It was better to have input and accept concessions then to have a potentially worse bill rammed through the true-blue roll call.

I like Romney when he's allowed to let his hair down and be himself. He has done some local radio spots in the past filling in for the conservative talk jock. He did a great job. I wish we had THAT Romney on the stage.
The closest we got was his speech in New Hampshire after one of the primaries. The guy understands financial matters and the economy better than most, and that's what we need right now because of the bad economy.

I don't like the direction Obama is leading.
I'd vote for a chimp if he ran against Barack.
But my vote this fall isn't anti-Obama. It's PRO-Romney. Because he may not be everything this country needs long term, but he has the knowledge to be everything we desperately need right now.

You realize we're not in year one of the usurpers term right?

This IS Soetoro's record azzwipe......



What other experience does he have besides voting present as a senator?




Three years of record. I like Mittens as much as you do but you're really obtuse for such a smart fellow sometimes, you know that?

There are times I think some of these posts arguing with me have got to be jokes because they are so whacked it's funny.

Tailgater.


If you don't buy Fuzzys narrative wholecloth then a conversation you won't have.

"The previous administration" has never been uttered from his lips eh?

The way you parse words to ignore reality is aggravating to some who attempt to converse with you. Maybe. I'm just projecting now......

He HAS REPEATEDLY tried to deflect blame to Bush.


Mittens is trying to take credit for allegedly improving things. He's not laying blame, he trying to "spike the ball" like Barry did with his cousin Osamas death.

No not with you.......

Im not defending Romney!

The guy before me sucked! (Same arguments)


All this good stuff is because of me!
All this bad stuff is the sucky guy before me's fault!
(Not the same arguments!)


Thats all.......and yes I have argue with you 98.2% of the time.

Google.
30 seconds.
better than a quote. A video.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/01/13/obama-called-smaller-bush-debt-rise-unpatriotic/

And the sun will rise tomorrow.
But please don't ask for proof.
This is tiresome.

He was leading until the little **** pulled "quixotry" out of his ass to take the win.

So Romney did not know the economy in MA was not very good when he fought tooth and nail to be governor?

your excuses are laughable

Fuzz,
At the risk of your lips getting tired, reread my post.
Magnitude may have been too ambiguous.
Frequency?
Incessant?
Perpetual?


Further to the point, Romney never slammed Jane Swift while he was governor. To be fair, they're both supposedly republicans. But this is not an insignificant tidbit.
Obama is our sitting president. And he points fingers at the "mess he inherited" nearly every time he speaks.
Even after 3.5 years.

You and I won't agree on much, but if you don't recognize facts when they're presented then the discussion has run its course.
Saying Obama has never blamed Bush is like saying Bush never said anything that sounded dumb or that Clinton was a faithful husband or Nixon loved the press.