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Kawak Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 11:52 AM EST
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USAF TOOK NANCY 'S JET AWAY
(verified by Snopes)
The real reason that Nancy Pelosi is considering retiring is that they took her Jet away.
Ah, poor baby!
As a result of a Judicial Watch filing under the Freedom of Information Act, the USAF released documents detailing House Speaker Pelosi's use of United States Air Force aircraft between March 2009 and June 2010. The data are published in the Judicial Watch Verdict of December 2010, Volume 16, Issue 12.
Here are the main highlights revealed by the USAF. Keep in mind that all the data below relate to United States Air Force aircraft used by one woman over a sixteen month period.
Several of these flights included Ms. Pelosi's guests, such as grown children, grandchildren, various in-laws, friends and hangers-on. Over 95% of the trips were between the west coast and Washington , DC , for what you might call a commute between home and the office. READ it and WEEP!!
>Total trips: 85 over a 68 week period, or 1.25 average trips per week.
>Total mileage: 206,264 miles, or 2,427 average miles per trip.
>Total flying time: 428.6 hours, or an average of 5 hours per trip.
>Cost to the taxpayers: $2,100,744, or $27,715 per trip, or $1,285,162 per year!
>Cost of in flight food and alcohol: $101,429; $1,193 per trip; $62,051 per year.
On one junket to Baghdad, according to the Air Force report, she had the aircraft bar stocked with Johnny Walker Red Scotch, Grey Goose Vodka, E&J Brandy, Bailey's Irish Cream, Maker's Mark Whiskey, Courvoisier Cognac, Bacardi Rum, Jim Beam Whiskey, Beefeater Gin, Dewar's Scotch, Bombay Sapphire Gin, Jack Daniels Whiskey, Corona Beer and several varieties of wine. This was obviously a very important "gubment bidness" trip.
Evidence generally speaks for itself, and in Ms. Pelosi's case it speaks the language of abuse and (evidently) a serious drinking problem, for in a single year she and her spawn drank an amount in excess of the net income of the average employed American! When she said, "... If the stimulus doesn't pass, five hundred million people might lose their jobs...", I thought she was unintentionally revealing her ignorance. I'm now more inclined to think she was pickled.
Even though she can no longer abuse the USAF, she can either fly on her broom, or fly Southwest Airlines, where bags fly free.
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 12:23 PM EST
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So she gets free flights on Southwest?
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 12:29 PM EST
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I heard they all do it so we shouldn't really care..... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 12:30 PM EST
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Saddam had yellow cake.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 12:52 PM EST
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Valerie Plame hid it in her CIA provided Haloburton case.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 12:57 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Saddam had yellow cake.



So did Colin Powell!!!!whip
daveincincy Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 1:59 PM EST
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I'd probably drink a lot to if I worked side by side with Harry Reid and Obama....but I'd stay sober if I worked side by side with Barney Frank.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 2:04 PM EST
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daveincincy wrote:
I'd probably drink a lot to if I worked side by side with Harry Reid and Obama....but I'd stay sober if I worked side by side with Barney Frank.



Inside spoon?


KINK-KAY!
daveincincy Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 2:27 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Inside spoon?


KINK-KAY!


Pelosi probably gets a little kink-kay after some Johnny Walker. Probably has quite a few frequent flyer points on the mile-high club. whip :shiver:
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 2:32 PM EST
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daveincincy wrote:
Pelosi probably gets a little kink-kay after some Johnny Walker. Probably has quite a few frequent flyer points on the mile-high club. whip :shiver:



I think she's more of "wake up facedown in a pile of puke off the floor kinda drunk"...hence the reason for all the facial surgeries!
gringococolo Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 2:38 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I think she's more of "wake up facedown in a pile of puke off the floor kinda drunk"...hence the reason for all the facial surgeries!



With her granny panties all poop stained wedged up her butt crack.

Classy.
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#12 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 5:01 PM EST
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

I could not care less about Pelosi but when I see the words "verified by snopes" I generally find it's so I won't check and will blindly pass along misinformation, I don't like to be part of that.

this snopes item is probably too long to read but I'm guessing it is related to the op.
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 5:06 PM EST
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Snopes said it was all true.
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 5:13 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Snopes said it was all true.

funny.
victor809 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 5:50 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

I could not care less about Pelosi but when I see the words "verified by snopes" I generally find it's so I won't check and will blindly pass along misinformation, I don't like to be part of that.

this snopes item is probably too long to read but I'm guessing it is related to the op.


The original post doesn't even exist on snopes. Since the very first line is a lie, it's safe to assume that every line after it is.

I hate it when people are idiots.
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 5:53 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
The original post doesn't even exist on snopes.



That means it is true!
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 5:53 PM EST
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They didn't take her jet away????


Victor she abused a privilege she shouldn't of had and yes the booze part is true.
victor809 Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 6:15 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
They didn't take her jet away????


Victor she abused a privilege she shouldn't of had and yes the booze part is true.


I dug up the referenced article in question. Of course there is zero mention of them taking her plane away, that was added by someone with a little "creative license".

Let's break this down a bit:
1 - Based on the other snopes article, it's clear that the speaker of the house is expected to NOT fly commercial because of Homeland security requirements post 9/11. You want to change that, fine, but it was in place before she entered office.

2 - 85 trips at 2.5k miles each equals 1.25 trips a week. (notice based on mileage the "trips" are one way)
That means she's going home LESS than I did when I was working on the road. A little more than every other week she travels home. OH NOES!!!! That also is not uncommon, and in the consulting world that is the minimum travel requirement.

3 - Family? Oh god, who cares? If she's gotta get a private plane that can make it cross country non-stop off the ground already, who cares if there are a couple people going with?

4 - She's made out to be a boozer because of a congressional delegation she led to the middle east had a bunch of booze on it? That sounds like a work trip, it doesn't say how many other congressmen were in this delegation (or their political affiliations).

Is flying politicians around a waste of money? yes. Is this something that is "different" about pelosi? no.
Kawak Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 6:28 PM EST
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Baaaaa....Baaaaa

Its says Snopes...Deal!
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 6:32 PM EST
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Right no commercial flight. But traditionally this large of a plane has not been used. Go do some more reading.


If they want free travel fine, they can fly in cargo planes like our soldiers or charter cheap private planes. Don't be a dolt just for the sake of maintaining contrarian status.
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#21 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 7:06 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Since the very first line is a lie, it's safe to assume that every line after it is.

You mean as in, 'Congress cannot make a law that favors the establishment of one particular religion; that prohibits the free exercise of religion; or that restricts freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people to gather and engage in peaceful demonstrations and to petition the government for redress of their grievances.' ? Think
drywalldog Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 7:11 PM EST
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Thata way Huck!
Kawak Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 9:06 PM EST
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Ahhh.... Little puppy dog... So cute!!!
drywalldog Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 9:16 PM EST
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I aint that cute, or little Huck.(confirmed on Snopes).
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 9:23 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Right no commercial flight. But traditionally this large of a plane has not been used. Go do some more reading.


If they want free travel fine, they can fly in cargo planes like our soldiers or charter cheap private planes. Don't be a dolt just for the sake of maintaining contrarian status.


Most of the other people in that position were on the East Coast. A plane that can make a non-stop flight east to west is usually a little larger. If you note the original snopes article, the requirement was with range, NOT size. It just so happens that they don't design so many planes to take very few people really long distances.
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 9:36 PM EST
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Oh I'm sorry they mandated non-stop flights too?


You try to hard Victor.

I'll drink some rum for you tonight you need it. Relax take your shoes off and stay awhile.
Kawak Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2012, 10:20 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
I aint that cute, or little Huck.(confirmed on Snopes).


Your littler then the boss lets on! Now go bake some cookies while the cone of protection still affords you the time for it! November is coming soon!
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:39 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Oh I'm sorry they mandated non-stop flights too?


You try to hard Victor.

I'll drink some rum for you tonight you need it. Relax take your shoes off and stay awhile.


I want to say that it was some sort of security requirement, I believe this was requested by some sort of security group.

This plane thing is a non-issue and irritates me because it distracts people from actual waste.

You want waste? How many actual days was congress working this year? That's all of them, and that's doing crap for their paycheck.

You want waste, look at the estimated cost of the healthcare repeals (30 something of them) when congress is actually at work.

BOTH sides sit there and waste our time and money doing stupid sh%t, accomplishing nothing, and then people go around reposting partisan, inaccurate, misleading and frequently plain false complaints about some piddly little plane upgrade. That's not even walking around money.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:45 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I want to say that it was some sort of security requirement, I believe this was requested by some sort of security group.

This plane thing is a non-issue and irritates me because it distracts people from actual waste.

You want waste? How many actual days was congress working this year? That's all of them, and that's doing crap for their paycheck.

You want waste, look at the estimated cost of the healthcare repeals (30 something of them) when congress is actually at work.

BOTH sides sit there and waste our time and money doing stupid sh%t, accomplishing nothing, and then people go around reposting partisan, inaccurate, misleading and frequently plain false complaints about some piddly little plane upgrade. That's not even walking around money.



NO CAKE 4 U OUTRAGE!
teedubbya Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:48 AM EST
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no one here cares about the truth.... unless it fits us.

now go shine your chime box
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#31 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:50 AM EST
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actually I think she has a G-4... still a nice plane.. I beleive the face down drunken booze part tho.... Mellow
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#32 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:50 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
no one here cares about the truth.... unless it fits us.

now go shine your chime box




TAILOR MADE AND SHOESHINE OUTRAGE!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:51 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
actually I think she has a G-4... still a nice plane.. I beleive the face down drunken booze part tho.... Mellow



...in a pile of puke and stuff...that's what I heard!Cool
victor809 Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:56 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
actually I think she has a G-4... still a nice plane.. I beleive the face down drunken booze part tho.... Mellow


You believe a statement that wasn't even in the document starting this thread, which in itself had statements added from the original document.

Let me guess, you're gonna copy and paste the above, add the "face down drunken" part and forward it to all your friends because you're sure that's what happened.

You're part of the problem, not part of the solution.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 9:58 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You believe a statement that wasn't even in the document starting this thread, which in itself had statements added from the original document.

Let me guess, you're gonna copy and paste the above, add the "face down drunken" part and forward it to all your friends because you're sure that's what happened.

You're part of the problem, not part of the solution.



Paste eater outrage!
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 10:00 AM EST
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the crux of the matter is the apostrophe
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#37 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 10:02 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:

You're part of the problem, not part of the solution.



sorry ... I was born this way... Sad
teedubbya Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 10:05 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
sorry ... I was born this way... Sad


proof that the gay IS genetic
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 10:12 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
proof that the gay IS genetic



ok, then so is anti-gay... I'm defective cause I cannot accept the fact that God wanted some of ya'll to be gay-homos.... even tho he wrote it on the internets... Sad
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#40 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 10:14 AM EST
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Damn Algore!
teedubbya Offline
#41 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 12:14 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
ok, then so is anti-gay... I'm defective cause I cannot accept the fact that God wanted some of us to be gay-homos.... even tho he wrote it on the internets... Sad


dude don't fight it. so god made you gay. make peace with him and you can still enjoy heaven. the catholics are wrong (well except their preists, they seem to accept the whole gay pedo thing).
Kawak Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 1:30 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
dude don't fight it. so god made you gay. make peace with him and you can still enjoy heaven. the catholics are wrong (well except their preists, they seem to accept the whole gay pedo thing).


You should listen Drafter, this is the expert of all experts to end all discussion on gayness...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 2:11 PM EST
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Kawak wrote:
You should listen Drafter, this is the expert of all experts to end all discussion on gayness...



And he's got Sammy and Vic on his wings ready to pounce if'n it gits busy!
rfenst Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 10:23 PM EST
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What a total crock of 5h!t.

Third in Line of Succession to the Presidency and a Speaker should be flying non-military?

Sorry, but any Speaker of The House's exact location while in transit needs to be known at all times in this crazy world we live in.
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#45 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2012, 11:51 PM EST
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Look at all the senators and congressmen that get kidnapped!

It's an epidemic!

If it's so unsafe than the public shouldn't be allowed to fly commercial either. You don't think she would have security? Alot of stinger missles in the midwest? C'mon ...............
DrMaddVibe Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Aug 1 2012, 5:59 AM EST
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Here's a freaking novel idea...end the recesses and install/rent a secure VPN teleconference room.

The senators and congressmen get to stay in their districts meeting with their people.

They won't have to pay high real estate fees associated with living in DC

They'd have time to actually...I dunno...PASS A FREAKING BUDGET!

They wouldn't even have to be on a flight to begin with tying up military resources that should be used as private chauffeur services!
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#47 Posted: Wed, Aug 1 2012, 8:29 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Here's a freaking novel idea...end the recesses and install/rent a secure VPN teleconference room.

The senators and congressmen get to stay in their districts meeting with their people.

They won't have to pay high real estate fees associated with living in DC

They'd have time to actually...I dunno...PASS A FREAKING BUDGET!

They wouldn't even have to be on a flight to begin with tying up military resources that should be used as private chauffeur services!



Think
who'd want to be in Congress if that happened..?? Huh
HockeyDad Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Aug 1 2012, 9:21 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Sorry, but any Speaker of The House's exact location while in transit needs to be known at all times in this crazy world we live in.



Often commercial airlines vanish from radar and radio communication for hours at a time when passing over the flyover state triangle!
DrafterX Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Aug 1 2012, 9:24 AM EST
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she's prolly allergic to peanuts.... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#50 Posted: Wed, Aug 1 2012, 9:26 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
she's prolly allergic to peanuts.... Mellow



I blame Jimmy Carter
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