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Egypt Charges 8 Christians in the USA with "Crimes against Islam"
Papachristou Offline
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/world/film-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_c1



(CNN) -- Egyptian authorities have charged seven Coptic Christians living in the United States and a Florida pastor with insulting Islam and inciting sectarian strife for their alleged links to an online video that has enraged much of the Muslim world.

Egypt's public prosecutor announced the charges Tuesday, the latest development in the deadly backlash against the low-budget, amateurish 14-minute movie trailer produced privately in the United States and posted on YouTube.

The clip from "The Innocence of Muslims" mocks the Muslim Prophet Mohammed as a womanizer, child molester and killer.

Belief: Controversy shines light on Coptic Christianity

"Innocence of Muslims" was an obscure Internet video until September 11, when rioters, seizing on it, breached the U.S. Embassy in Cairo. Protesters also attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, killing U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

The charges -- largely symbolic because the accused all live outside Egypt -- name alleged filmmaker Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, who is identified by Egyptian officials as Elia Bassili.



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Rice on the anti-American protests abroad Reports that Nakoula is a Coptic Christian have raised concern about a possible backlash against the minority religious group in Egypt, where tensions between Copts and Muslims have risen recently.

Egypt also charged Morris Sadek, who is believed to have posted the clip to YouTube.

The Florida pastor charged is Terry Jones, who was allegedly contacted by the filmmaker to help promote the video. Jones sparked some protests in Muslim countries last year when he staged a trial of Islam at his church.

The others accused were identified as Morcos Aziz; Fikri Zokloma, also known as Esmat Zokloma; Nabil Bissada; Nahed Metwali; and Nader Nicola. Aside from Nakoula, who lives in California, and Jones in Florida, it was not clear where the others live in the United States.

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In addition to charges of insulting the Islamic religion, insulting Mohammed and inciting sectarian strife, all eight are charged with harming national unity and spreading false information, according to Adel Saaed, a spokesman for the prosecutor's office.

Egyptian authorities added the names to their airport watch list.

Prosecutors said they will ask the international police agency, Interpol, to add the names to its wanted lists. U.S. authorities would also be contacted, according to prosecutors.
Although Washington has made it clear that it did not sanction the film, a week of protests have rippled from Morocco to Malaysia, spurring U.S. officials to increase security at diplomatic missions and demand other governments to take action.

Sherif Doss, head of the Egyptian Coptic Association, said the accused Copts have created their own "cult-like" organization in the United States, have appointed their own minister and are "disregarding any church or religious norms."

Papachristou Offline
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So let me get this right, we have to stand by while people protest a soldier's funeral and do nothing, yet Egypt (which receives aid from us) is charging some of our citizens for expressing their beliefs?

Although i will never see this undoubtedly stupid video, it is his right to produce it.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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I know...let's throw those ACLU lawyers on this one...you know...the Freedom FROM Religion types...let them have this case!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Papachristou wrote:
Although i will never see this undoubtedly stupid video, it is his right to produce it.



It's on YouTube...look for "Innocence of Muslims".
Papachristou Offline
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i dont care to see it. although i am starting to wonder if there is some truth to it.
Brewha Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I know...let's throw those ACLU lawyers on this one...you know...the Freedom FROM Religion types...let them have this case!


Freedom of and from religion is a treasured American value.
I’m talking about Americans here . . . .
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Brewha wrote:
Freedom of and from religion is a treasured American value.
I’m talking about Americans here . . . .


From Religion...


Ah yes..figured it would drag out the repressed sexual abused at the hands of a religious figure types. Like shootin' fish in a barrel.

You made it all too damn easy.

The documents don't say FROM Religion though do they? You chose that all by yourself.
dpnewell Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
From Religion...


Ah yes..figured it would drag out the repressed sexual abused at the hands of a religious figure types. Like shootin' fish in a barrel.

You made it all too damn easy.

The documents don't say FROM Religion though do they? You chose that all by yourself.


You know better then that, DMV. The libs have been re-writting the Constitution and BOR to fit their beliefs for years. I bet you he really does believe it means freedom "from" religion.
rfenst Offline
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dpnewell wrote:
You know better then that, DMV. The libs have been re-writting the Constitution and BOR to fit their beliefs for years. I bet you he really does believe it means freedom "from" religion.


Don't you think freedom of religion means freedom from religion? No state instituted religion. The unabashed right to following any religion, no religion or even believe in God. Same coin- different sides.
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rfenst wrote:
Don't you think freedom of religion means freedom from religion? No state instituted religion. The unabashed right to following any religion, no religion or even believe in God. Same coin- different sides.


No Sir! To a good God fearing Christian it is clear – we are all FREE to believe in Jesus. Or you should get the hell out of the country . . . .
DrMaddVibe Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Don't you think freedom of religion means freedom from religion?



Not for one second.

Studying the Pilgrims would serve you well.

Under the Crown people were forced by penalty of law (to include imprisionment, forfeiture of money and land, loss of revenue; the ability to earn a living doing what you do) if they didn't obey the Church of England.

No, like it was clearly stated the Constitution and the Bill of Rights have been whored out by idiots that want an interpretation. Would you really like an interpretation? Read the Federalist Papers!

Our Founding Fathers believed in a higher power. NEVER in a million years would they actually think some moron would choose NOT to believe. How they pray and devote their time was up to them, not some government!

I can't for a second believe you actually believe what you posted.
dpnewell Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Don't you think freedom of religion means freedom from religion? No state instituted religion. The unabashed right to following any religion, no religion or even believe in God. Same coin- different sides.


DMV already beat me to it, but if folks read and researched what our Founding Fathers actually thought about issues, these twisted interpretations of the BOR wouldn't come up. Then again, folks won't do the research, as they'd rather re-interpret the BOR to fit their personal beliefs, instead of original intent.

Many as Reform Protestants (mainly Presbyterian), could not hold office in England, since they where not members of the Church of England. This is what they wanted to prevent. The government requiring that someone belong to a “sanctioned” church in order to hold office. The current lib thinking that all mention of God must be removed from every aspect of government would have been ludicrous to them.

Do your research, Counselor.
dpnewell Offline
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Brewha wrote:
No Sir! To a good God fearing Christian it is clear – we are all FREE to believe in Jesus. Or you should get the hell out of the country . . . .


That's OK. Once you re-elect Boo Boo Bear, and his foreign polices work their magic, we'll all be FREE to believe in Allah. Well, only if we want to keep our heads attached to our shoulders.


HockeyDad Offline
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It sounds like we've got 8 Coptic Christians that need to be extradited to Egypt.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
It sounds like we've got 8 Coptic Christians that need to be extradited to Egypt.


Yup...LEt's see...they were already rounded up...bet they're on a plane headed to Gitmo or Labia right now.

Too bad they couldn't round up the Westboro Baptists too!
chemyst Offline
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How many Islamic radicals were charged for beheadings,
which were video taped and put on the internet?

ZERO.
HockeyDad Offline
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chemyst wrote:
How many Islamic radicals were charged for beheadings,
which were video taped and put on the internet?

ZERO.



We're prolly still gathering evidence and those videos were a little grainy in quality. (plus they all look alike)
DrMaddVibe Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
We're prolly still gathering evidence and those videos were a little grainy in quality. (plus they all look alike)



...and Gitmo is getting LARGER!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Our state dept probably has them in custody already.
Stinkdyr Offline
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Are we free to be fat and smoke dope yet?


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