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HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 1:01 PM EST
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Each American household's share of the national debt now stands at $136,690.

Get a second job, you proles.
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 1:04 PM EST
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If I pay it will they leave me alone..?? Huh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 1:09 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
If I pay it will they leave me alone..?? Huh



Here I am...on the road again.


Here I am...up on the stage.


There I go...turn the page.Boo hoo!
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 1:22 PM EST
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poor CROS..... Sad
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 1:33 PM EST
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Ya gotta pay to play!Applause
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 4:36 PM EST
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Will this show up on my credit report?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 4:59 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Will this show up on my credit report?



Yours? No.

Your children? They'll need a dumptruck full of cash (really, it'll be devalued THAT much!) to buy groceries for a week!

Credit? Those days are GONE.


Cash on the barrelhead!
8trackdisco Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 5:29 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
If I pay it will they leave me alone..?? Huh


I'm sure the government (once you pay them) will never come back for more. Trust them.
8trackdisco Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Oct 3 2012, 5:30 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Each American household's share of the national debt now stands at $136,690.

Get a second job, you proles.


So illegals have more net worth than the average American citizen?!

We need more Illegals; that way we'll all get rich!
Brewha Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 9:17 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Each American household's share of the national debt now stands at $136,690.

Get a second job, you proles.


Why pay when you can just vote Republican?

Angel
HockeyDad Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 9:27 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Why pay when you can just vote Republican?

Angel



That doesn't exempt you from paying. Republicans have jobs and pay lots of taxes. We made unemployment and social security taxable so Democrats would feel like they were contributing.
victor809 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 9:39 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Republicans have jobs and pay lots of taxes.


You have definitely not met the Republicans I know.
tailgater Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 9:51 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You have definitely not met the Republicans I know.


The "R" tatoo on his azz stands for "rugby", not "republican".
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 9:53 AM EST
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Rugby Gay-Homo Tramp Stamp Outrage!
Brewha Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 10:02 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
That doesn't exempt you from paying. Republicans have jobs and pay lots of taxes. We made unemployment and social security taxable so Democrats would feel like they were contributing.


No, no, no, – that debt is part of our legacy for future generations. That’s why we pay for wars on a credit card and lower taxes – the GOP way!

Unless of course you really are suggesting that it would be fair to have everyone, rich, poor, child, man pay the same amount. Come to think of it that’s pretty GOP too!
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 10:20 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
No, no, no, – that debt is part of our legacy for future generations. That’s why we pay for wars on a credit card and lower taxes – the GOP way!




Didn't Obama put some stuff on the credit card as well?
Brewha Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 10:45 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Didn't Obama put some stuff on the credit card as well?


Yeah, but the car companies and banks paid it back with interest.

Say – what do you think a person’s ‘fair share’ of the debt should be?
HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 10:47 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yeah, but the car companies and banks paid it back with interest.

Say – what do you think a person’s ‘fair share’ of the debt should be?



Oh OK. I heard we put one trillion USD on the credit card each of Obama's years in office. Prolly was a typo.
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 10:48 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Say – what do you think a person’s ‘fair share’ of the debt should be?



I'm thinking that topic has been covered before. Try the search engine.
Brewha Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 10:57 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I'm thinking that topic has been covered before. Try the search engine.


Good dodge of a direct question – you must be a Republican. And I should not expect you to know your opinion.

If only we could find a Globalist to weigh in . . . .
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 11:29 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yeah, but the car companies and banks paid it back with interest.

Say – what do you think a person’s ‘fair share’ of the debt should be?



A. GM still owes money against the debt.
B. The banks? When the bank bailout is used as a negative, the liberals say it GWB who initiated it. When they claim it's being paid back with interest, they give credit to Obama. So which is it today?

As for fair share, are you looking for a dollar value or a percentage?
And is it really fair to ask a question that you probably don't even have an answer for yourself?
Brewha Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 12:11 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
A. GM still owes money against the debt.
B. The banks? When the bank bailout is used as a negative, the liberals say it GWB who initiated it. When they claim it's being paid back with interest, they give credit to Obama. So which is it today?

As for fair share, are you looking for a dollar value or a percentage?
And is it really fair to ask a question that you probably don't even have an answer for yourself?


This is a political discussion – Please don’t confuse the issues with facts whether real or imaginary.

My sense of fair would be that Americans pay in accordance with their income. And that interest and holding be taxed at the same rate as labor income.

Now take note how the cunning and crafty Le HockeyDad raises the issue but does not weigh in. He is tricky that one – be warned!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 12:15 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yeah, but the car companies and banks paid it back with interest.





Liar Liar Liar


Not talking Not talking Not talking


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/27/gms-phony-bailout-payback
Stinkdyr Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 12:27 PM EST
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Waaaaaaaaait a minute here.
If I am that far in debt, then where is all my free stuff?


Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 12:28 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Waaaaaaaaait a minute here.
If I am that far in debt, then where is all my free stuff?


Think



I'm sorry...the Cone of Protection is full.whip
Abrignac Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 12:32 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Liar Liar Liar


Not talking Not talking Not talking


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/27/gms-phony-bailout-payback



It amazes me how TRUTH is spun to make something sound better. When GM FULLY reimburses the American people ALL the $$$ it was doled, then it can say it has paid back the American People.

BTW, at what point do WE quit subsidizing the Volt?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 12:41 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
BTW, at what point do WE quit subsidizing the Volt?



When we yank the ethanol subsidy away!
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 1:57 PM EST
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ethanol sucks.... Mellow
dubleuhb Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 2:09 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
It amazes me how TRUTH is spun to make something sound better. When GM FULLY reimburses the American people ALL the $$$ it was doled, then it can say it has paid back the American People.

BTW, at what point do WE quit subsidizing the Volt?

Looks like we have a market, makes my head hurt.

http://www.stripes.com/news/military-adding-more-electric-vehicles-to-fleet-1.184928
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 2:09 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:

My sense of fair would be that Americans pay in accordance with their income. And that interest and holding be taxed at the same rate as labor income.



But people like Mitt pay more annually then we'll ever pay over our entire lives.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 2:12 PM EST
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dubleuhb wrote:
Looks like we have a market, makes my head hurt.

http://www.stripes.com/news/military-adding-more-electric-vehicles-to-fleet-1.184928



Can you just imagine an IED taking out an electric car?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 2:13 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
But people like Mitt pay more annually then we'll ever pay over our entire lives.




Actually Mitt paid MORE than his fair share!d'oh!
Brewha Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 3:25 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
But people like Mitt pay more annually then we'll ever pay over our entire lives.



This is one of Mit's actions I agree with.
Brewha Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 3:26 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Actually Mitt paid MORE than his fair share!d'oh!


Not in this life . . . .
tailgater Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 3:29 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
This is one of Mit's actions I agree with.


After all, he's no Eric Holder...
ZRX1200 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 3:39 PM EST
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Fair share?


I think we need a percentage system based on who the taxpayer voted for. If you voted for a big spender then buckle up buttercup you're flipping the bill.
TrishS@CigarBid Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 4:14 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Fair share?


I think we need a percentage system based on who the taxpayer voted for. If you voted for a big spender then buckle up buttercup you're flipping the bill.



ZERO VOTER TURN OUT OUTRAGE!
victor809 Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 4:17 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Fair share?


I think we need a percentage system based on who the taxpayer voted for. If you voted for a big spender then buckle up buttercup you're flipping the bill.


Ummm... not to start a "what percentage of our budget goes to x vs y" discussion, but wouldn't that system essentially end up with individuals supporting defense spending/war efforts (usually a more republican group) paying a much higher percentage?
snowwolf777 Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 4:25 PM EST
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Maybe a politician who will make spending a slave to taxes, instead of taxes a slave to spending? Crazy deficit talk, I know. But they eased you into it. You got comfortable with deficits in the millions. Then billions. The trillions. Next up: Kabooblians.

horse
snowwolf777 Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 4:27 PM EST
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I know: BALANCED BUDGET OUTRAGE!
victor809 Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 4:27 PM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
Next up: Kabooblians.

horse


Boobies are next!!??? I'm totally in.
Brewha Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 6:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Boobies are next!!??? I'm totally in.


If you've seen one, you've seen em both. Or so they tell me.
We need Wheel to weigh in on this . . . . .
He is the local boobmister.
8trackdisco Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2012, 7:08 PM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
Maybe a politician who will bring back slavery.

horse



What dialect would they speak?
HockeyDad Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2012, 8:19 AM EST
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Here's the great secret......

We don't need to adjust taxes one bit to pay off the national debt.

(it will never be paid off. It will either be wiped out in the national bankruptcy and breakup of the USA or wiped out in the next global war......just depends on which comes first)
HockeyDad Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2012, 8:20 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
What dialect would they speak?



Mandarin
Stinkdyr Offline
#46 Posted: Tue, Oct 9 2012, 9:11 AM EST
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We need China to invade us, to liberate us from our authoritarian taxaholic gubment.
And they can give us the gift of Democracy, and stuff.


Beer
Brewha Offline
#47 Posted: Tue, Oct 9 2012, 10:20 AM EST
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Then who would be the peace keepers of the world?
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