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Climate Change - The Candidates
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victor809 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 11:34 AM EST
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-why-no-discussion-of-climate-change/2012/10/18/a3cd74ec-195d-11e2-aa6f-3b636fecb829_story.html

An amusing article. Essentially states that Romney has a better track record than Obama on environmental issues, but that they're both trying to out-do the other in claiming to be able to drill as much as possible.

Also takes a poke at the myth of fully domestic oil production.
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 12:37 PM EST
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Sympathy post for Victor.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 12:53 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Sympathy post for Victor.



+1

Cuz I'm bored.
victor809 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 1:00 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Sympathy post for Victor.


The irony is that neither candidate is talking about it, so no one else is....

I kinda feel like you proved the article's point.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 1:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
The irony is that neither candidate is talking about it, so no one else is....

I kinda feel like you proved the article's point.



You just proved mine by replying.
teedubbya Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 1:13 PM EST
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rabbit season
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 1:47 PM EST
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Yeah neither candidate is talking about rabbit season either... .



Where's the Washington compost on that lead?
victor809 Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 1:50 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah neither candidate is talking about rabbit season either... .



Where's the Washington compost on that lead?


You don't find it unusual at all?

Of course not....
DrMaddVibe Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 1:55 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You don't find it unusual at all?

Of course not....



You know what's unusual?


This entire election cycle that not one candidate has had the balls to actually raise awareness to the issue of polar bear abortion clinics. It's a travesty! Here we are in the US of A driving around on broken bridges, drinking dirty water and sleeping in private parks under blue tarps with our plastic drum circles and right now...there's MILLIONS of polar bears that are being denied the choice to have abortions! How long is THAT going to stand, huh?
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 2:30 PM EST
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There's scientific consensus that polar bears are being denied their right to abortions.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 2:38 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
There's scientific consensus that polar bears are being denied their right to abortions.



HARD science?


Oh my!
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 2:40 PM EST
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Yes.


Blue pill science and it's a consensus.
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 2:41 PM EST
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But don't lose sight, the bunnies are the victims here.
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 2:50 PM EST
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Yes... be facetious.

There is a growing body of knowledge that we have an impact on our environment... the type of impact, the level, etc are irrelevant to this discussion...

It is interesting to me that this is a completely ignored topic in the presidential race currently.

Is it because the economy is so bad, Obama thinks trying to sell any environmental issues would alienate the middle-ground?
Is it because Romney has a better record than Obama and Obama is afraid Mitt will bring that up?
Is Mitt avoiding it because he's afraid his good environmental record would alienate the Teabaggers?

The silence is interesting to me. Obviously you're unwilling to look at it beyond "It's about climate issues! I must mock it!"
Brewha Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 8:32 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
But don't lose sight, the bunnies are the victims here.

Alas, it is true. There lie the poor, tired and huddle masses of bunnies. Gasping for life as the oppressive boot of the self-righteous top 1% presses upon their throat, denying them the simple right to breed like . . . . well, breed a lot. And make jelly beans!
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 10:05 PM EST
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Vic we just dont take you seriously.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 3:01 AM EST
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CLIMATE CHANGE WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE PLACE REGARDLES OF ANYONE'S OPINION
dpnewell Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 5:30 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE PLACE REGARDLES OF ANYONE'S OPINION


Did I have way too much Scotch last night, or did Rick say something that actually makes sense? Nah, must be the Scotch.
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 6:17 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You know what's unusual?


This entire election cycle that not one candidate has had the balls to actually raise awareness to the issue of polar bear abortion clinics. It's a travesty! Here we are in the US of A driving around on broken bridges, drinking dirty water and sleeping in private parks under blue tarps with our plastic drum circles and right now...there's MILLIONS of polar bears that are being denied the choice to have abortions! How long is THAT going to stand, huh?




Polar bear abortion clinics?????

Sacrebleu!
HockeyDad Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 6:18 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Alas, it is true. There lie the poor, tired and huddle masses of bunnies. Gasping for life as the oppressive boot of the self-righteous top 1% presses upon their throat, denying them the simple right to breed like . . . . well, breed a lot. And make jelly beans!



It moved.
HockeyDad Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 6:20 AM EST
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Climate change will be discussed as part of the election only when we globalists can find another angle to profit from it. We already used up the global warming scam.
Brewha Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 7:54 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
It moved.


I told you – that Doxidan is magic!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 8:39 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE PLACE REGARDLES OF ANYONE'S OPINION



Or just hang around and wait for the cycle to repeat again.

http://www.clim-past.net/8/765/2012/cp-8-765-2012.pdf
DrMaddVibe Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 10:32 AM EST
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"These fears are based on computer models that show temperatures continuing to rise in step with levels of CO2.

That’s a big one, because all these governments are pushing legislation, regulations, taxes, and controls on people and economies based on computer models that have failed spectacularly. Which is why, of course, Warmists blame everything that happens on “climate change”. Hot, cold, wet, dry, snow, ice, hurricanes, no hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanoes, you name it, Mankind’s CO2 output is to blame in Warmist World."

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2012/10/22/yes-the-world-really-did-stop-warming-16-years-ago/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 10:36 AM EST
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we should grow more hemp..... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 11:38 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Climate change will be discussed as part of the election only when we globalists can find another angle to profit from it. We already used up the global warming scam.


That's probably true... which is fine by me.

Just reinforces my assertion that people don't really like their kids, or care about them.

I find it funny.
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 11:41 AM EST
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Riiiiiiight..........
HockeyDad Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 12:43 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's probably true... which is fine by me.

Just reinforces my assertion that people don't really like their kids, or care about them.

I find it funny.




If Americans really liked their kids, would they saddle them with 16 trillion in debt and even be considering taking that up to 20 trillion?!
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 1:19 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
If Americans really liked their kids, would they saddle them with 16 trillion in debt and even be considering taking that up to 20 trillion?!


Nope.
There's a million examples of how it is clear people dont actually care that much about their kids.

The most interesting was a finance study showing how $$ could be optimized if it were disbursed earlier (prior to death) yet most individuals preferred to keep the money as long as possible, despite the financial hit their inheritors would take.

No matter what people say, I'm convinced they don't really like their children that much. (and especially no matter how many times they scream "what about the children")
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 1:31 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:

No matter what people say, I'm convinced they don't really like their children that much.



that's absurd... didn't you watch the debates..??? Huh
victor809 Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 1:39 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
that's absurd... didn't you watch the debates..??? Huh


Are you joking or stupid?
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 1:44 PM EST
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stupid is as stupid does..... Not talking Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 1:44 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Nope.
There's a million examples of how it is clear people dont actually care that much about their kids.

The most interesting was a finance study showing how $$ could be optimized if it were disbursed earlier (prior to death) yet most individuals preferred to keep the money as long as possible, despite the financial hit their inheritors would take.

No matter what people say, I'm convinced they don't really like their children that much. (and especially no matter how many times they scream "what about the children")



Do I hear a Mill .5? Who's got a mill .5? Mill .5 over here...We've got 2 mill now who's gonna give me 2 mill...horse


The old mantra..."Its for the kids"? That means they're hiding behind little targets and won't divulge what they really want with your donation or tax dollars!!!whip
victor809 Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 2:20 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
stupid is as stupid does..... Not talking Not talking


It was a serious question....
I stated that "no matter what they say" and you said "didn't you watch the debates"....

Either you were joking, or you don't understand that debates are a speaking engagement.....
DrafterX Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Oct 22 2012, 2:23 PM EST
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yes, I was just joking...... but both candidates stressed education and morality for the 'children'... it's suppose to keep AK-47s off the streets.... Mellow
Stinkdyr Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Oct 23 2012, 7:42 AM EST
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Shoot rabbits and coons.

Good eatin, good caps.

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