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bloody spaniard Offline
#51 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 5:57 PM EST
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Ok, now I'm as confused as the Redskins playing in their old timers uniforms today. d'oh!
sd72 Offline
#52 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:02 PM EST
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It's simple, now that its not the unions doing, it's still their fault.

Accuse in the headlines, retract on page 9.

Business as usual.
bloody spaniard Offline
#53 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:05 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
It's simple, now that its not the unions doing, it's still their fault.
Accuse in the headlines, retract on page 9.
Business as usual.



Thanks, sd72. Confused
(glad I don't read much anymore)

er, anyone ever tell you that your handle sounds like a lubricant?
sd72 Offline
#54 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:07 PM EST
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Ya, I hear that all the time. Thanks bloody!
bloody spaniard Offline
#55 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:12 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
Ya, I hear that all the time. Thanks bloody!


LOL- For what? Not reading any more?
It's MY pleasure, sd. Believe me.BigGrin

I can't make heads or tails out of this latest "controversy".Think
ZRX1200 Offline
#56 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:23 PM EST
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It was all the volunteers fault.....
bloody spaniard Offline
#57 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:32 PM EST
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Who's this "supposed" to help- Romney?
ZRX1200 Offline
#58 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:38 PM EST
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Sure the fuel was cheap to drive that utility truck 1020 miles.
sd72 Offline
#59 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 6:42 PM EST
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It was a union made electric utility truck. No fuel.
RWhisenand Offline
#60 Posted: Sun, Nov 4 2012, 8:23 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
So, if professional utility workers belong to the IBEW they are "qualified", but if they choose not to join, the exact same professional workers are "un-qualified". Do you realize how ridiculous that is? It only makes sense to folks brain-washed in "Union-think".

Both my BILs work in the Trade Unions at Temple University. One is a plumber. He carries a union card, so I guess that makes him a "qualified" plumber. News for you. I'm a better plumber then he is, and I wouldn't let him touch a pipe in my home.

My other BIL tried to recruit me for a Union General Maintenance position over there. Read the booklet. I was allowed to paint 4' of trim, but not 4'1". Have to call in the painters for that extra inch. Could replace 2 floor tiles. Three required the flooring guys. Could plunge a toilet, but not snake it. That required a Plumber. Was allowed a 16 oz. claw hammer. I'm a contractor and use a 22 oz. ripping hammer most efficiently, but no, on this job, I would have to use a less efficient 16 oz. claw hammer. Had a 5-1/2" American made battery saw. Rule book stated 3-1/4" battery saw only. So, by Union rules, I'd have to retire my American made saw, and buy one from Japan. Rules on sizes and lengths of screw drivers, files, tape measures, etc. etc. Every possible tool I was permitted to have on the job site was spelled out and specified in detail in the book, and no deviations where permitted. Most union folk see this, and think it's normal. The rest of us see these kinds of rules and requirements, designed to increase the cost of labor, and decrease efficiency as "insanity". Just say'n.


No, they don't have to be IBEW to be qualified, but verifying that the utility workers had some training, and minimum licensees to conduct work on public power distribution lines is a good idea, it's not about hammer sizes on high voltage lines.
cacman Offline
#61 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 9:58 AM EST
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Wonder if the same situation is occurring with the kids that bag groceries??? They have their own union too!!!
ZRX1200 Offline
#62 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 10:36 AM EST
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No fuel!


I need a union car that doesn't run on fuel!



AMAZING!!!!!
tailgater Offline
#63 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 10:37 AM EST
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RWhisenand wrote:
No, they don't have to be IBEW to be qualified, but verifying that the utility workers had some training, and minimum licensees to conduct work on public power distribution lines is a good idea, it's not about hammer sizes on high voltage lines.


Nobody would fault the municipality if they merely checked credentials.
This was clearly a case of the union treating the outsiders with their business-as-usual approach, when the situation called for common sense.
As Z stated, nobody would drive a thousand miles just to make the unions look bad. They obviously arrived and were bullied rather than shown some well deserved gratitude.

I think it's obvious what transpired. But the powerful politics of the IBEW will likely change the facts so over time it appears like a non-issue.

But what shouldn't be forgotten, regardless of what the truth is, is that so many are ready to believe that the union responded poorly. Because that is what they do. And they do it with no appologies.
tailgater Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 10:39 AM EST
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sd72 wrote:
It was a union made electric utility truck. No fuel.


Herfing
DrMaddVibe Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 10:56 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No fuel!


I need a union car that doesn't run on fuel!



AMAZING!!!!!



It runs of Hope and Change!!!!!!whip
blackfoot11 Offline
#66 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 1:40 PM EST
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yeah, but who BUILT that truck. it had to be the government............you know, cause of the bridges and roads thingy...............so the government can do with it what they will.....................

all in all, as a utility worker, (non union thankfully), this is a clusterfukc. (yes, i misspelled that), something had to happen, or it wouldn'ta made headlines...................
DrMaddVibe Offline
#67 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 1:48 PM EST
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If you were a union worker with a union job in a union shop, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this utopia so you could sleep on the job, play cards on overtime, go on strike for unrealistic raises and retirement that only congressmen, Senators and CEO's get that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got union job -- you didn’t build that. Marx, Trotsky and Lenin made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet, because let's face it if it were up to a union they'd still be trying to create the wheel!
blackfoot11 Offline
#68 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 2:12 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
If you were a union worker with a union job in a union shop, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this utopia so you could sleep on the job, play cards on overtime, go on strike for unrealistic raises and retirement that only congressmen, Senators and CEO's get that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got union job -- you didn’t build that. Marx, Trotsky and Lenin made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet, because let's face it if it were up to a union they'd still be trying to create the wheel!



sad but true.

here in wisconcin, the state union workers cost me EVEN more $ when they re-called the govenor, with the result being not what they hoped. because taxpayers have all along payed the ENTIRE medical insurance of union state employees, as well as there ENTIRE retirement funds. govenor walker was the 1st to have balls of steel and say, "that ain't happenin no more". all he asked for was for them to pay a mere 15%.

i'm so sick of paying for others retirement, AND my own, WITHOUT any help from the gubment.............


1 of our bros here works for a natural gas company here in sconnie. this is about how the utility he works for handles tasks. he was headed home 1 day when he overheard something needed to be done for a customer on his way home. he said he'd pick it up on his way home. NO was the answer. it's not your job. (a minor task he could've handled, but was of great importance to the customer).

the customer wound up waiting 2 more days for the service because it wasn't his job.

THAT'S union mentality.................
tailgater Offline
#69 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 3:03 PM EST
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blackfoot11 wrote:



the customer wound up waiting 2 more days for the service because it wasn't his job.

THAT'S union mentality.................


You obviously misunderstood.
The customer must have wanted it 2 days slower.

Gives them time to "affiliate"...
dpnewell Offline
#70 Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012, 3:12 PM EST
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RWhisenand wrote:
No, they don't have to be IBEW to be qualified, but verifying that the utility workers had some training, and minimum licensees to conduct work on public power distribution lines is a good idea, it's not about hammer sizes on high voltage lines.


That's what you got out of my post - hammer sizes on high voltage lines. Congrates. Your "union think" brainwashing is complete. BTW, didn't you say in a previous post that it was the non-union worker's fault for failing to "affiliate"? Oh, that's right, you did.


RWhisenand wrote:
If workers refused to affiliate, it's on them not the IBEW.
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