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The End of an Empire
skillett Offline
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A forward I received - my thoughts exactly!


- Dr. Ileana Johnson Paugh (Bio and Archives) Thursday, November 8, 2012
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Our Constitutional Republic died a peaceful death on November 6, 2012. Having reached the point of no return in a comatose state after years of progressive and illegal immigration assaults, the fabric of conservative society is now completely unraveled and Uncle Sam’s America is no more. The United States of America is now relegated to the dust bin of history as a “has been” empire. The Shining City on the Hill, the hope of so many millions since July 4, 1776, no longer exists. What rises from the ashes is a country that few of us will recognize, like, or learn to accept submissively.



After 236 years of existence, a new country emerges today, run by secular progressives who rejected our Constitution, what we stand for, and who we are as a nation. The Supreme Court will be forever altered after its last conservative members will be replaced by the liberal academics who call themselves “progressives.” The rule of law will be implemented by Executive Orders, making Congress irrelevant.
The communist motto “Forward” that resonated with so many ignorant Americans will plunge us into many years of darkness from which we will never be able to recover. We have proven our Founding Fathers right, they did give us a Constitutional Republic and we were unable to maintain it.

The forces of the failed communist fundamental transformation that were driven underground in many places around the world, resurfaced with a vengeance in the United States and have now taken over.

How long we will still have freedom of speech, movement, assembly, and control of our private property remains to be seen. Faith and churches will be driven underground; allowing secularism to prosper and take deep roots among the progressives whose God is Mother Earth.

The welfare dependent Americans, unions, and illegal aliens have chosen for the rest of us the dark path of serfdom to big government and to socialist utopia.

Who would have guessed that the very people who were complaining that the government is not extricating them from disaster or giving them the help they needed in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, would vote for the very politicians who turned their backs on needy Americans after the lights went dark when the political photo opportunities ended?



Who would have guessed that Americans were as ignorant and irresponsible as to choose fiscal destruction over fiscal sanity for their children and grandchildren, secularism and communism over faith, dependence over personal responsibility and self-reliance?



Americans have been protesting for the last four years the dismal state of the economy and the direction of our country, the corruption of our politicians, and the loss of personal and economic freedom.

Rallies in support of conservatism overwhelmed venues for Mitt Romney while rallies for our bumbling President became scarcer and scarcer. Yet, miraculously, at the ballot box, our President won all over the country.



We lost seats in the Senate. Americans chose liars and cheats to be their Senators and Representatives, rejecting those who protected the Constitution. The candidate from Massachusetts who claimed direct American Indian lineage to Pocahontas is now a Senator, having defeated Scott Brown.

Representative Allen West lost his seat by a narrow margin.



Americans chose high unemployment, reduction of our military, communist indoctrination of their children, and loss of personal freedoms unlike we have never seen before in this country.



I am saddened by the loss of millions and millions of American soldiers who have died to preserve freedom yet we lost it on November 6, 2012. Those buried in cemeteries around the world and at Arlington must be rolling in their graves today. We shamelessly allowed their sacrifice of blood and treasure to go in vain. We have no honor because we let down all the soldiers who fought in recent times and returned home limbless with lives shattered from physical and mental wounds of war.



I mourn today the loss of my adopted country. I have fought hard over the last four years to prevent its overt and accelerated destruction but the darker forces stronger than many of us have overcome concerted efforts by millions of Americans to maintain the Republic. Mediocrity, sloth, godlessness, dependence, cowardice, using the law selectively or ignoring it, and hopeless corruption will define the new country.



Only God can save us now with his mercy and grace.

ZRX1200 Offline
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The "so called" right has been bleeding us too, just slower.
dpnewell Offline
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Just another blasted right wing wacko trying to kill our dear Liberal friend's buzz. She even mentioned God. How dare she ever use that word when speaking of politics or our nation's policies. Further proof that she's a total wacko, and everything she says must be discredited and ignored.
dpnewell Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The "so called" right has been bleeding us too, just slower.


Totally agree with you there, Jamie. Libertarians are the only hope this nation has, which I guess means there is no hope.
rfenst Offline
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dpnewell wrote:
Totally agree with you there, Jamie. Libertarians are the only hope this nation has, which I guess means there is no hope.


Whoe are us!
It is all bad.
There will be nothing good in our futures...
ZRX1200 Offline
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WOLVERINES!
dpnewell Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Whoe are us!
It is all bad.
There will be nothing good in our futures...


No Robert, after rethinking this, I mis-spoke. After the Republicans implode, and this nation experiences four more years under our president, Libertarians may actually become a viable choice for many. Guess there is hope afterall.
teedubbya Offline
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In related news the sky is falling.
DadZilla3 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
In related news the sky is falling.

Remain calm. All is well!
teedubbya Offline
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Whew. Thanks. I thought for a moment Obama won.
RWhisenand Offline
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Our "Empire" died in 1913 when Wilson ratified the federal reserve. Think there's a difference in the two parties? Research the central banking system.
teedubbya Offline
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Yea. We suck and stuff.
drywalldog Offline
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What a bunch of pathetic crybaby losers the self rightous right is on here. Guess Washington never had to face anything this bad, or Lincoln with the civil war. Quit cryin on here your embarrasing your women folk.
drywalldog Offline
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Grow a pair and talk to your higher authority, and strike out in the right direction.
DadZilla3 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Whew. Thanks. I thought for a moment Obama won.

Obama did win. It was the future generations of Americans who lost.

Join with me now, brothers and sisters...O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA!

All hail the Messiah
Obama, Obama!
the path to the new socialist motherland!
Our savior, our savior
Obama, Obama
The leader more famous than Lindsay Lohan!
Bow down and praise The One
Give him your money and your guns
Give us the country that makes your wife proud
Lord Barry, heal the bitter ones
white, and clinging to faith and to guns
Hope for the change of the hope of the change!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXr1mkYWeCU
dpnewell Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
What a bunch of pathetic crybaby losers the self rightous right is on here. Guess Washington never had to face anything this bad, or Lincoln with the civil war. Quit cryin on here your embarrasing your women folk.


You're comparing our current President to great leaders like Washington and Lincoln? Really? Drink the union koolaid. Imbibe in the dark, tantalizing liquid. Feel the "medicine" coursing through your veins, controlling your mind. There ya go. Reality will slip away, and your buzz will be back shortly.
drywalldog Offline
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No Dpnewell i was comparing you and the right to those leaders of men, my mistake, whine on men.
calavera Offline
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The Grand Republic of Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin is dead. It has now been replaced by the socialist state so desired by Franklin Roosevelt and his 20th century ilk.

Again, the people have gotten just what they wanted and what they deserve. Line up at the teat.




J
dubleuhb Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
No Dpnewell i was comparing you and the right to those leaders of men, my mistake, whine on men.


So no one should in any way, shape or form criticize or question what many feel is the worst POTUS ever ?
I think other governments before us have tried this line of thinking, never ended well though did it ?

We're gonna need more KOOL-AID here !Brick wall
dpnewell Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
No Dpnewell i was comparing you and the right to those leaders of men, my mistake, whine on men.


DWD, It was unfair of me to make that sarcastic jab at you, and for that I publicly apologize, but your reaction to the opinions of some of us, does bring up a serious question.

Are you so insecure in your own convictions and decisions that you have to seek validation of such on a discount cigar board, and when you find others don't feel the same way as you, you have to lash out at them in anger? There are many who feel that our Republic is dying, only to be replaced with failed European style socialism. If you are so convinced that the current direction of this country is the right one, then why should you even care what the rest of us think? If you require validation, go to moveon or any of the other liberal boards, and you will find all the validation and reassurance you require.
pdxstogieman Offline
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calavera wrote:
The Grand Republic of Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin is dead. It has now been replaced by the socialist state so desired by Franklin Roosevelt and his 20th century ilk.

Again, the people have gotten just what they wanted and what they deserve. Line up at the teat.




J



Franklin and Jefferson would've been vilified and driven from government service by the religious rightwing if they were contemporaries in today's political environment. Ben Franklin for his 17 illegitimate children and Franklin for bonking his slaves ...er ..help. What a bunch of blowhard bloviating from bitter losers.

PS...if you think you aren't taking any sips off the teat you scorn, guess again.
pdxstogieman Offline
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dubleuhb wrote:
So no one should in any way, shape or form criticize or question what many feel is the worst POTUS ever ?
I think other governments before us have tried this line of thinking, never ended well though did it ?

We're gonna need more KOOL-AID here !Brick wall


There are other ways, shapes, and forms of criticism that are more rational than all the jeremiad shouting, tantrum rants, and rending of garments the embittered right been putting on prominent display. Have a little more cheeze with your whine.
drywalldog Offline
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Dpnewell, I voted for the person I believe is most interested in helping the middle class, if only cause Mitt had no interest in it. Was trying to inspire the right, stupid of me? If I am your enemy, its cause you wish it.
8trackdisco Offline
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dpnewell wrote:
Just another blasted right wing wacko trying to kill our dear Liberal friend's buzz. She even mentioned God. How dare she ever use that word when speaking of politics or our nation's policies. Further proof that she's a total wacko, and everything she says must be discredited and ignored.


I don't have a buzz. 98% of the country put us here. All but 2% were polarized to the farthest extreme of the political spectrum. The politicians and economy have torn out the heart by selling the thought of If you don't back our brand of extremism, your gonna get the other! fearful .

So you either vote for the Uber Rich or the Disenfranchised.

If you don't have a moderate option, moderation has no chance to win the day.
8trackdisco Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
What a bunch of pathetic crybaby losers the self rightous right is on here. Guess Washington never had to face anything this bad, or Lincoln with the civil war. Quit cryin on here your embarrasing your women folk.


Washington didn't have to deal with immigration, lazy ass union slugs, or women voting.

Hell, if anything white folks were the immigration problem for the indians.

They lost the battle against foreigners taking over the country. Now it is our turn in the barrel.
Brewha Offline
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I thought this thread was going to be that whole "Luke, I'm your father" thing . . . . .
8trackdisco Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
No Dpnewell i was comparing you and the right to those leaders of men, my mistake, whine on men.


He's not a right winger, He's a Libertarian. There is a difference. Then again, we have to expect less from one dimensional, poorly educated union r'tards.
bloody spaniard Offline
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^ You sound like I did when I was a young, disenfranchised John Bircher... My vote didn't count either. I vowed revenge!
(insert diabolical spanish laugh interrupted by occasional wheezes here)


Hang in there. The American population is not stupid. They will eventually appreciate Gary Johnson for the inherent greatness that he truly is.
He'll be back to run again... when he accumulates more vacation hours at Costco.
calavera Offline
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pdxstogieman wrote:
Franklin and Jefferson would've been vilified and driven from government service by the religious rightwing if they were contemporaries in today's political environment. Ben Franklin for his 17 illegitimate children and Franklin for bonking his slaves ...er ..help. What a bunch of blowhard bloviating from bitter losers.

PS...if you think you aren't taking any sips off the teat you scorn, guess again.



I have no more use for the religious right wing than I do for the loony left wing. The only thing that could save this country would be someone like Thomas Jefferson, and only if they didn't get crucified by the left. Someone whose platform is to support the Constitution and to support the far more minor role that the federal government is supposed to play would be the subject of an all out attack from the liberals and their lapdog media. Less government and the Constitution are kryptonite to liberals.

And I am not taking any sips off the teat, thank you very much. I have made my own way, and have not taken any handouts from anyone. I have my own health care and take care of me and my family without entitlements.
bloody spaniard Offline
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No mas partidos para mi!! (in case you were wondering, boy vunder 8). Desde ahora en adelante, no tengo un perro en esta pelea, maricon.
calavera Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
^ You sound like I did when I was a young, disenfranchised John Bircher... My vote didn't count either. I vowed revenge!
(insert diabolical spanish laugh interrupted by occasional wheezes here)


Hang in there. The American population is not stupid. They will eventually appreciate Gary Johnson for the inherent greatness that he truly is.
He'll be back to run again... when he accumulates more vacation hours at Costco.



I think that if most moderate people stopped drinking the kool aid pushed at them by the media and started looking at things and thinking for themselves, they would realize that they are libertarians. Not Ron Paul libertarians, but rather the Gary Johnson type libertarians with rather moderate, middle of the road opinions.

He was born in the town that I was born in and still live in. I voted libertarian across the board this year, and will continue to do so as long as they continue to stand for what I believe.



J
calavera Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
Dpnewell, I voted for the person I believe is most interested in helping the middle class, if only cause Mitt had no interest in it. Was trying to inspire the right, stupid of me? If I am your enemy, its cause you wish it.



So you voted for Gary Johnson?

In case you didn't have a clue, obamacare is not going to help the middle class.




J
bloody spaniard Offline
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What's this straw man of "religious right" that always seem to unify haters on both sides????!!!

I AM part of the religious right (mostly) & I have nothing but love Love for both sides that are trying to find common ground through their hatred.Blushing
Besides, I can safely say, we are irrelevant. Go pick on someone your own size like gays, negros, or latinos... er, scratch the latino part (gulp).
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bloody spaniard wrote:
No mas partidos para mi!! (in case you were wondering, boy vunder 8). Desde ahora en adelante, no tengo un perro en esta pelea, maricon.



Bien, los rusos pudieron liberarse de los yugos del comunismo. Espero los americanos también; Después de la dictadura inevitable estilo militar.
bloody spaniard Offline
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Who am I talkin' to? Why are you here? When did you learn to spick my langwage, señor OchoTrack?
Wait a minuto... "The Russians were able to liberate themselves from the Yugoslavians"??? Ok, I agree with the imminent establishment of martial law in this country however. Obama has the potential of being a strong yet fair dictator. Venceremos!



(serious Jerry Springer moment)

Calavera, kidding aside, I think that it's commendable that you, 8, and others vote your conscious regardless of the outcome. The altruistic and more principled stance is to vote for the collective good (meaning "country" for folks from Assscratch, VT) not that of the capricious, self-indulgent individual.... wait a minute, I'm not sure who's side I'm on now - for individual rights or a more powerful Union...
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Who am I talkin' to? Why are you here? When did you learn to spick my langwage, señor OchoTrack?
Wait a minuto... "The Russians were able to liberate themselves from the Yugoslavians"??? Ok, I agree with the imminent establishment of martial law in this country however. Obama has the potential of being a strong yet fair dictator. Venceremos!



(serious Jerry Springer moment)

Calavera, kidding aside, I think that it's commendable that you, 8, and others vote your conscious regardless of the outcome. The altruistic and more principled stance is to vote for the collective good (meaning "country" for folks from Assscratch, VT) not that of the capricious, self-indulgent individual.... wait a minute, I'm not sure who's side I'm on now - for individual rights or a more powerful Union...


Once General Penetration, I mean Petraeus goes under ground for a while, he'll reemerge as a solid dictator candidate. Another good thing about a dictator, you don't have to waste resources on recounts or voting at all!
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drywalldog wrote:
Dpnewell, I voted for the person I believe is most interested in helping the middle class, if only cause Mitt had no interest in it. Was trying to inspire the right, stupid of me? If I am your enemy, its cause you wish it.


No dude, you're not my enemy at all. If you really believe that the President was the best choice for the middle class, I guess I'm just going to have to respect that. Please try to understand that many of us see the Republic dying and it's traumatic. We don't need folks rubbing it in our faces, and telling us to man up. Just say’n.
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calavera wrote:
I have no more use for the religious right wing than I do for the loony left wing. The only thing that could save this country would be someone like Thomas Jefferson, and only if they didn't get crucified by the left. Someone whose platform is to support the Constitution and to support the far more minor role that the federal government is supposed to play would be the subject of an all out attack from the liberals and their lapdog media. Less government and the Constitution are kryptonite to liberals.

And I am not taking any sips off the teat, thank you very much. I have made my own way, and have not taken any handouts from anyone. I have my own health care and take care of me and my family without entitlements.


You are delusional if you think you have not used or benefited from any tax funded infrastructure, programs, or services. I suppose you'll be declining any social security or medicare benefits when you become eligible for them.
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dpnewell wrote:
No dude, you're not my enemy at all. If you really believe that the President was the best choice for the middle class, I guess I'm just going to have to respect that. Please try to understand that many of us see the Republic dying and it's traumatic. We don't need folks rubbing it in our faces, and telling us to man up. Just say’n.


I guess it wasn't nearly as traumatic to you when the republicants started the process of "killing the republic".
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pdxstogieman wrote:
I guess it wasn't nearly as traumatic to you when the republicants started the process of "killing the republic".


They wheren't anywhere near as efficient at it, as our current President is. Libertarian since '96. Haven't voted for a Republican since. Wrote in Ron Paul like some others here. Just hoping that Romney wouldn't twist the knife when he stuck it into Uncle Sam's gut, the way our current President is intent on doing.
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Do you hear the people sing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYizXBQ5EQA
teedubbya Offline
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Maybe we should build a Death Star
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teedubbya wrote:
Maybe we should build a Death Star



You assume we don't have one.
teedubbya Offline
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Are we hiding it in ****** cheney's garage?
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teedubbya wrote:
Are we hiding it in ****** cheney's garage?



Is that code for "the dark side of the moon?
teedubbya Offline
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That would be Oprah
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My BOTL's...I have posted about a book...The Empire of Debt...


http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Empire-Debt-Financial/dp/0470483261/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352766210&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Empire+of+Debt


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The problem with just piling on more debt is that it transferred the control of the USA's future from the people and the politicians to the lenders. The nation has been turned into a ponzi scheme just waiting to fail and we will know who is the last rung on the ladder at the moment when the credit dries up.

Who are the lenders? Foreign banks, foreign central banks, oil sheiks, 401Ks through bond funds, pension plans, and Federal trust funds like social security.

...but TeeDubbya has a plan!
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see my post:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...posts/625593/SECEDE-NOW


soon enough. one if by land, two if by sea...


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I don't need no stinkin plan. I have HOPE!
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