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Making Changes For the Better (Now That I'm a Liberal)
DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,588
dpnewell wrote:
For those who didn’t understand that my original post was parody, let’s set the record straight.

Yes, I’m barely keeping my head above water. I believe our President and his policies have contributed to that, but it is only speculation.

I really did take a 60% cut in pay over the past four years in order to keep the doors open.

No, I did not close down my business, and have no intention to do so until I make the permanent move to NC, and find gainful employment elsewhere. I’m responsible to provide for me and mine, not others.

I may very well qualify for food stamps, but wouldn’t even think about applying.

I’m still a dyed in the wool Libertarian, and consider most liberal viewpoints to be rationally deficient.

I believe that the past 4 years have been a trial, designed to take my trust off of myself, and my resources, and place that trust in God. It’s humbling to have to go to Him every morning, to ask for, and trust Him for my daily provisions. One positive consequence is that possessions now mean very little to me. It is freeing to not always be desiring a bigger or newer TV, game system, smart phone, tablet or car. My wife now desires a “simpler” life, and considers our current circumstances a blessing that helped wean us out of the rat race. Contentment with what God has given us is the key to happiness.

Even though the math says it’s not possible, our bills are paid, we have a roof over our heads, food on the table, still give a portion to charities (including a food bank, soup kitchen and homeless shelter), we continue to sponsor a child in the Philippines, we’ve been able to help our children financially, and where even able to secure funds to buy a new home. We have been blessed richly by our God. He promised to provide the needs (not wants) of His children. Everything above that is gravy.

These are my personal beliefs. No one says you have to agree.




I can see the frustration but it sounds like you planned well... happy to hear you and your wife are happy with what you've accomplished... it beats the hell out of growing old andbitter... Mellow
DadZilla3 Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
Brewha wrote:
Fair enough. It was a bit of fun though. Hay, Dadzilla even gave you a theme song . . .
But I guess the show is over. Good sport I thought. Thanks for starting the game.

No way the game is over. The theme is mine. Y'see, your True Liberal only gives away things that belong to others. So although to the uninitiated it may seem to be the Right Thing to donate my theme to another, in reality as a True Liberal I only give away something I took from someone else.

Uh-oh...I used the word 'reality'...does that mean I'm in dire need of another cup of industrial strength Kool Aid?
Brewha Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
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Look, just because you are having a love affair with your crack pipe doesn’t make you a Liberal.

Fine, take the theme host you own show. Come up with a catchy name, “DadLiberal”, “The Left wing” or how about “Breaking Liberal”?
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted:
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Posts: 98,588
Think
maybe a remake of the Jeffersons only they're 'Moving Back Down'.... Think
DadZilla3 Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
Brewha wrote:
Look, just because you are having a love affair with your crack pipe doesn’t make you a Liberal.

Fine, take the theme host you own show. Come up with a catchy name, “DadLiberal”, “The Left wing” or how about “Breaking Liberal”?

Can't afford crack, even if I wanted to use it. Obviously I haven't figured out how to game the government freebie system yet.

You seem to have an unhealthy grasp for what sells on television...
Brewha Offline
#56 Posted:
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Can't afford crack, even if I wanted to use it. Obviously I haven't figured out how to game the government freebie system yet.

You seem to have an unhealthy grasp for what sells on television...


Television is a mirror of the times and the people.
Yes, I find it troubling. But there it is; from Snookie to Glenn Beck, that is America in the early twenty first century.

Of course, it is a select group that decides what the mirror shows and more importantly, does not show.
Through a glass, darkly . . . .
drywalldog Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2007
Posts: 5,536
Funny how so many on here think that livin on the government teat is such a good ride. Be careful, being poor might be as much fun as you think.
drywalldog Offline
#58 Posted:
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Might not
drywalldog Offline
#59 Posted:
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Might not
drywalldog Offline
#60 Posted:
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Might not
drywalldog Offline
#61 Posted:
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Wow phone triple post!
Brewha Offline
#62 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,202
drywalldog wrote:
Funny how so many on here think that livin on the government teat is such a good ride. Be careful, being poor might be as much fun as you think.

Thanks for sharing you experiences of living off the government. I guess I might see what you mean after I retire. After paying in for a life time, I figure they owe me.
DadZilla3 Offline
#63 Posted:
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drywalldog wrote:
Funny how so many on here think that livin on the government teat is such a good ride. Be careful, being poor might be as much fun as you think.

True, being poor and living off the government freebie wagon is not much fun...not fun that is, for those who posses even a shred of self-respect and personal responsibility. Most of us would view it as a temporary emergency helping hand until we were able to get back on our feet and get back to supporting ourselves and our loved ones.

Unfortunately, there are literally millions of people nowadays who view government largess as a birthright, a guaranteed life support system for themselves and any number of stray offspring they irresponsibly bring into the world.

Compared to working for a living and acting responsibly to your loved ones and society in general yeah buddy...it's indeed a very, very good ride.
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
DadZilla3 wrote:

Compared to working for a living and acting responsibly to your loved ones and society in general yeah buddy...it's indeed a very, very good ride.


I've always suspected that the most fervent anti-welfare state individuals harbored some secret wish that they could actually give in and go live on welfare. Kind of like the most anti-gay priests always seem to end up caught on film with male prostitutes.

If you think sitting around doing nothing productive sounds like a "very good ride" maybe there is something wrong with you as well?
HockeyDad Offline
#65 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,199
victor809 wrote:
If you think sitting around doing nothing productive sounds like a "very good ride" maybe there is something wrong with you as well?



Isn't this a plank in the Democrat platform?!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#66 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,590
I thought he was channeling Fuzz!
Frying pan
DadZilla3 Offline
#67 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I've always suspected that the most fervent anti-welfare state individuals harbored some secret wish that they could actually give in and go live on welfare. Kind of like the most anti-gay priests always seem to end up caught on film with male prostitutes.

If you think sitting around doing nothing productive sounds like a "very good ride" maybe there is something wrong with you as well?


And you think sitting around on your a$$ every day of a useless life when you are perfectly capable of working, but instead being supported by taxpayers isn't a 'very good ride'?

I've always suspected that the most fervent pro-welfare supposedly working types are basically parasites at heart. They may draw a pay check from somewhere buy I doubt if their 'job' involves much skill or effort.
Brewha Offline
#68 Posted:
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While the wealth gap grows, the conservative blame the poor.


And so it goes . . . .
victor809 Offline
#69 Posted:
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DadZilla3 wrote:
And you think sitting around on your a$$ every day of a useless life when you are perfectly capable of working, but instead being supported by taxpayers isn't a 'very good ride'?

I've always suspected that the most fervent pro-welfare supposedly working types are basically parasites at heart. They may draw a pay check from somewhere buy I doubt if their 'job' involves much skill or effort.


Really? You honestly think that doing absolutely nothing productive with your life, having no control over what a nameless group of people will give you, and having absolutely nothing to do or show for yourself at the end of the day is "a very good ride"?

It honestly sounds horrible to me, and if the only thing keeping you from doing that is some external factor, perhaps you need to re-examine what actually motivates you.

As for your suspicion regarding "pro-welfare" working types... I'm not sure if you're trying to reference me, since I'm actually not pro-welfare and don't like the poor or homeless. Either way, I'm going to hazard a guess and say that you couldn't get through the amount of education I've gone through in my life, the effort I've put in and the skills and knowledge I've gained through the time to make me valuable to my employers. I never really minded though, because I enjoyed the sense of accomplishment I got from every step. Perhaps that's what your life has been lacking?
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted:
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Posts: 98,588
It honestly sounds horrible to me,




And most of us Victor... but you have to admit there are way to many people out there ok with it... nobody is saying all democrats are living off da welfare.... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#71 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
victor809 wrote:
Really? You honestly think that doing absolutely nothing productive with your life, having no control over what a nameless group of people will give you, and having absolutely nothing to do or show for yourself at the end of the day is "a very good ride"?

It honestly sounds horrible to me, and if the only thing keeping you from doing that is some external factor, perhaps you need to re-examine what actually motivates you.

As for your suspicion regarding "pro-welfare" working types... I'm not sure if you're trying to reference me, since I'm actually not pro-welfare and don't like the poor or homeless. Either way, I'm going to hazard a guess and say that you couldn't get through the amount of education I've gone through in my life, the effort I've put in and the skills and knowledge I've gained through the time to make me valuable to my employers. I never really minded though, because I enjoyed the sense of accomplishment I got from every step. Perhaps that's what your life has been lacking?


Who is more loathsome?
The conservative who demands others to do as they do,
Or the liberal who assumes they couldn't?

victor809 Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
DrafterX wrote:
It honestly sounds horrible to me,




And most of us Victor... but you have to admit there are way to many people out there ok with it... nobody is saying all democrats are living off da welfare.... Mellow


How do you know they're ok with it?
Seriously... you can look at it one of two ways:
1 - I know I would find the situation horrible and would not want to stay in it. I assume that therefore if someone is in it, they are unable to get out.
2 - The converse of this (an individual who assumes that welfare is a party, or that the individuals are ok with it) must mean that the person who thinks this way doesn't find the idea of being on welfare themselves that horrible.

Again... (because I have to repeat it for the idiots in this crowd) I am not saying I support welfare, just that I'm assuming the people who are in it, would rather not be. Let them starve or freeze to death, I don't care. But I doubt they are enjoying the situation they are in.
victor809 Offline
#73 Posted:
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Posts: 23,866
tailgater wrote:
Who is more loathsome?
The conservative who demands others to do as they do,
Or the liberal who assumes they couldn't?


What? not everyone has the same level of capability. what's wrong with acknowledging this?
DadZilla3 Offline
#74 Posted:
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Posts: 4,633
victor809 wrote:
Really? You honestly think that doing absolutely nothing productive with your life, having no control over what a nameless group of people will give you, and having absolutely nothing to do or show for yourself at the end of the day is "a very good ride"?


Actually I agree with you on that particular point. Living a life lacking in accomplishment and letting others support you and your family from cradle to grave is no life at all as far as I'm concerned. But the numbers show that an awful lot of people think otherwise. Millions in fact. And we have a political entitlement industry in this nation geared toward fulfilling that 'birthright'. To deny this obvious fact is to deny reality.
tailgater Offline
#75 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
victor809 wrote:
What? not everyone has the same level of capability. what's wrong with acknowledging this?


To assume that someone "can't" simply because they didn't is not only presumptuous, but also classless.
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted:
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Posts: 23,866
tailgater wrote:
To assume that someone "can't" simply because they didn't is not only presumptuous, but also classless.


I have no problem assuming that some simple tasks are outside the capability of average people. To assume that they aren't doing it just because they're lazy is no more questionable an assumption.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying we should support them because I think they can't support themselves. You do realize the difference right? If someone is incapable of actually earning money and incapable of making the decision to spend that money on food rather than alcohol, I'm not advocating that you buy them food. I'm just pointing out that they are incapable.
Philly Jack Offline
#77 Posted:
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Brewha Offline
#78 Posted:
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Posts: 12,202
victor809 wrote:
I have no problem assuming . . . . . .



And truer words were never written.
jpotts Offline
#79 Posted:
Joined: 06-14-2006
Posts: 28,811
Brewha wrote:
You guys are not being very supportive here. Remember that it must be scary for DP to leave the Fox News based alternate reality of conservatism. As his fellow BOTL'S you should help him as he transitions to a new life style. DP is soon to be overwhelmed with new choices.

So, DP, now that you approve of same sex marriage, should both men wear black?



Yes, so many choices.

WIC, ADC, Local food bank, County food programs, State food programs, federal housing assistence, state housing assistence, church charities, soaking neighbors, soaking friends, moving back in with your parents.

Yes, the options for most people living under the progressive liberal agenda these days is dizzying...
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