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'Gun Country' second gun-themed program suspended by Discovery; cable genre under fire after Sandy Hook shooting

Published December 20, 2012

LOS ANGELES – The Discovery Channel’s special “Gun Country,” hosted by rocker Ted Nugent, will not be returning to the network, a rep for the cable channel confirmed to FOX411.

Nugent did not repsond to a request for comment, but he had said on a radio program in October that Discovery wanted to air his show “as a regular feature. We expect that there will be at least a dozen shows a year.”

FOX411 was the first to report on that Discovery’s popular show “American Guns” had been canceled after two successful seasons following the tragic shooting in Newtown Conn., in which 26 people, including 20 school children, were massacred by a lone gunman using his mother’s legally purchased firearms.

The show later said in a statement: “Discovery Channel chose not to renew the series and has no plans to air repeats of the show,” without providing a reason why.

Discovery’s decision to stop airing these two programs followed intense criticism on social media.

“What an irony. I am following the news regarding the tragedy of Newtown, Connecticut, and I am listening to the speech of a heart-broken father of one of the young victims… At the same time, on Discovery Channel I’m seeing that absolutely disgusting freak show of yours of ‘Sons of Guns’ at the Discovery Channel, which is about sick people glorifying the use of assault guns,” a man who called himself a father of three wrote on the show’s Facebook page this weekend. “You should be ashamed of yourselves. If Discovery Channel has any moral conscience left, it should ban that show right away forever. I will never watch Discovery again until that show is pulled.”

Another viewer took to Twitter to note that the “rubbish” gun reality shows don’t “seem quite so appealing now,” while another questioned: “Is it really necessary to have shows such as American Guns and Sons of Guns on the Discovery Channel? Tell them we want them off the air.”

Reality shows revolving around guns, hunting and shooting have become staples on cable TV. From Discovery’s “Sons of Guns” to TruTV’s “Combat Pawn” to History Channel’s “Top Shot” to the dozens of series and specials on the Outdoor Channel, the reality genre has proved popular and profitable.

Could a fate similar to “American Guns” and “Gun Country” await other firearm-centric shows on Discovery and other cable networks?

The History Channel, Outdoor Channel and TruTV did not respond to requests for comment as to whether any of their gun-themed shows would be postponed, modified, feature new PSA’s, canceled, or return as planned.

So far there has been no official announcement about whether a fourth season of “Sons of Guns” will be ordered. Colby Donaldson, the host of “Top Shot” on History Channel, tweeted recently that a fifth season has completed production for an air date to be determined. TruTV has ordered seven episodes for a new season of “Combat Pawn,” although no debut date for that show has been released either.

Reality star Jesse Csincsak, who made a guest appearance last season on “American Guns” alongside his wife Ann, expressed dismay that the show would not be returning, but was not surprised by the reactions such programs are now being subjected too.

“Americans always look for something to blame things on, so since guns have been involved in a lot of crimes lately – hey, let’s blame guns,” he told FOX411’s Pop tarts column. “Once people stop blaming the objects and start blaming the people using them, the world we live in will be a better place.”

Jeff Knox, Director of the guns-owners rights group The Firearms Coalition, extended his sympathies to those impacted by the Newtown tragedy, and echoed sentiment that he would not be surprised if networks were to back away from firearms-related programming – for now.

“I wouldn’t expect such decisions to last very long because the demand is not going away and there is no connection between such programming and the misuse of firearms. Shows like ‘American Guns’ do not promote, encourage, or glorify illegal or irresponsible activities with firearms,” he said. “Television networks have been slow to answer the demand for gun-related programming. Now that networks and advertisers know that the viewing – and buying – public likes these shows, only some misguided sense of political correctness would keep them from being aired.”

As with all shows that do not rely on subscribers for their revenue, advertiser comfort will be key, said Brad Austin, Director of Development at 10x10 Entertainment, a production company which produces television, film and alternative media.

“I don’t think (networks) will axe their gun shows unless advertisers begin to pull out, but even there are probably advertisers to slide right in behind them. And I think networks can defend their shows to the extent that the selling of guns in the shows are portrayed as being done legally and with proper background checks in place,” Austin said. “Audiences love these shows that portray guns, the regions and worlds they exist in, and the characters involved in the business of guns.”

But that doesn’t mean networks aren’t in the process of re-evaluating these programs.

“There is a pretty distinct pattern when these things happen – initial over-conservatism with anything remotely interpreted as associated with the tragedy, a period of testing the waters to start discussing the topic again, then complete amnesia that it ever happened,” said Marc Marcuse, the founder of talent management company Real Management. “Right now, many shows are questioning their content based upon the recent tragedies, but I’m pretty sure in a year the topic won’t even show up in meetings anymore. The world moves on, and we tend to not be as sensitive over time as we heal.”



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lgops Offline
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This country is going to crap
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That's it... I'm not reading comic books anymore, playing video games, including the Deer Hunter game at the local bar. And I'm throwing away all my dime store squirt guns.Sarcasm

Some people are just over-reacting emotional idiots.
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The show was cancelled.
There is no actual proof it was cancelled because of this, or because it wasn't profitable, or because it wasn't AS profitable as the network thought they could achieve in that timeslot.

Brilliantly framed article.... The twitter quotes they put up (really, we're quoting a random person's twitter now? How do we know they aren't getting a 13 year old's opinion?) have no actual link to the network cancelling the show. The only thing they know is that the network was getting some flack on facebook and twiter. They decided to spin this into a story that suggests your precious shows about guns will be taken away!!!!
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The better leave 'Finding BigFoots' alone.... Mad
dpnewell Offline
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^Now we know how Victor felt when Bravo cancelled Queer Eye.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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dpnewell wrote:
^Now we know how Victor felt when Bravo cancelled Queer Eye.



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DrafterX Offline
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Laugh

at least he still has 'My Little Pony'..... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Laugh

at least he still has 'My Little Pony'..... Mellow



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DrafterX Offline
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prolly.... I was refering the tv show tho.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
prolly.... I was refering the tv show tho.... Mellow



It was cancelled?Brick wall
DrafterX Offline
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I dunno.... Mellow
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dpnewell wrote:
^Now we know how Victor felt when Bravo cancelled Queer Eye.


Hang on... your gun shows were about accessorizing?
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DrafterX wrote:
The better leave 'Finding BigFoots' alone.... Mad


I'm sure if the big foot show is cancelled, some retarded, desperate for a story, journalist will try to link it to angry tweets from a pre-teen somewhere in the world. And then you'll believe it and we'll have to see your copy/paste of the story.

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victor809 wrote:
I'm sure if the big foot show is cancelled, some retarded, desperate for a story, journalist will try to link it to angry tweets from a pre-teen somewhere in the world. And then you'll believe it and we'll have to see your copy/paste of the story.

The ciiiirrrclleee of life!!!!!



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victor809 wrote:
Hang on... your gun shows were about accessorizing?


Sure they where. How to add the proper laser, scope, sight, sling, maglight, foregrip, flush suppresser, bi-pod, heat shield, etc. to your firearm without making it look gaudy or unbalanced. You wouldn’t want to take your new tricked out mass killing machine to a gun nut meeting, and get laughed at, now would you?

I find it interesting how tolerate, accepting, do your own thing liberals are just as concerned with controlling what others do, think, own or watch, as us evil, intolerant, bigoted conservatives. Who would have thunk it?
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dpnewell wrote:
Sure they where. How to add the proper laser, scope, sight, sling, maglight, foregrip, flush suppresser, bi-pod, heat shield, etc. to your firearm without making it look gaudy or unbalanced. You wouldn’t want to take your new tricked out mass killing machine to a gun nut meeting, and get laughed at, now would you?

I find it interesting how tolerate, accepting, do your own thing liberals are just as concerned with controlling what others do, think, own or watch, as us evil, intolerant, bigoted conservatives. Who would have thunk it?



Well, I know you're trying to imply that I'm a liberal, so I'll bite (even though I'm sure no liberal would want me in their group). Please identify a single instance where I've tried to control what others do/think/watch?

As far as I'm concerned you can do/think/watch/say whatever you want. You simply have to be willing to accept the personal responsibility that you will be judged based on what you do/say/think/whatever.... if you say something stupid, I'll judge you as stupid and tell you that I'm judging you as stupid. Fair enough?
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Stupid is as stupid does.... Mellow
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victor809 wrote:
Well, I know you're trying to imply that I'm a liberal, so I'll bite (even though I'm sure no liberal would want me in their group). Please identify a single instance where I've tried to control what others do/think/watch?

As far as I'm concerned you can do/think/watch/say whatever you want. You simply have to be willing to accept the personal responsibility that you will be judged based on what you do/say/think/whatever.... if you say something stupid, I'll judge you as stupid and tell you that I'm judging you as stupid. Fair enough?


Actually I wasn't. I’m starting to believe that you'd probably fit very well with us Libertarians. I just happen to be in the far right fringe of the party so don’t judge us by me. Most are centralists with some as far left as I'm right.

As far as your 1st question goes, try not to personalize my generalizations. That part really wasn't aimed at you.
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dpnewell wrote:
Actually I wasn't. I’m starting to believe that you'd probably fit very well with us Libertarians. I just happen to be in the far right fringe of the party so don’t judge us by me. Most are centralists with some as far left as I'm right.

As far as your 1st question goes, try not to personalize my generalizations. That part really wasn't aimed at you.


Ok... no harm no foul.
Touched on a pet peeve of mine is all... there's an unfortunate trend in the world today which equates "freedom of speech/action/whatever" with "freedom from being judged". Ironically enough it seems to come frequently from the republican camp (yes, the personal responsibility camp)....
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dpnewell wrote:
^Now we know how Victor felt when Bravo cancelled Queer Eye.


What was that show about?
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Queers.... or so I heard...... Mellow
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victor809 wrote:
You simply have to be willing to accept the personal responsibility that you will be judged based on what you do/say/think/whatever....




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