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BIDEN DOES IT AGAIN-Declares Government Regulates Guns
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jackconrad Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Feb 7 2013, 9:13 PM EST
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In a speech to House Democrats, Biden claimed, “It is clearly within the right of the government to determine what type of weapons can be owned by the public.”
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 3:21 PM EST
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he was just kiddin..... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 3:22 PM EST
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Its a big **** deal!
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 3:24 PM EST
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Laugh
drywalldog Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 7:09 PM EST
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They have been regulating them since 1968, where have you guys been?
drywalldog Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 7:28 PM EST
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Crickets.
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 7:54 PM EST
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I wasn't able to vote back then....Mellow
drywalldog Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 10:18 PM EST
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The Senate voted for you. And a president signed it.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 10:25 PM EST
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What are you refering to..?? Are you hoping they take away guns..?? Huh
drywalldog Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 10:36 PM EST
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I was pointing to another crap post. I own guns, so no. Gun Control Act of 1968.
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 11:01 PM EST
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I don't expect anything to be overturned... I think the goal is to prevent further restrictiions... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 11:02 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
The Senate voted for you. And a president signed it.



That's the whole problem, they DON'T represent the People anymore......
They sure as hell didn't vote for ME!!!
drywalldog Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Feb 8 2013, 11:03 PM EST
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It was 1968
jackconrad Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 12:25 AM EST
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lYNDON bAINES jOHNSON ! But this is about the Attitude of the Current Dictators..
engletl Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 10:22 AM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
It was 1968

wrong answer

it all started with

The National Firearms Act ("NFA"), enacted on June 26, 1934,
drywalldog Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 10:59 AM EST
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Didnt say it started in 68, but thanks for backing up my point.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 12:05 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
The Senate voted for you. And a president signed it.



Like I already said..."Its a big **** deal!"

Thanks for playing at home alone with the show!
TMCTLT Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 1:40 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
Didnt say it started in 68, but thanks for backing up my point.




What " exactly" is your point? Seriously......
cacman Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 3:53 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
In a speech to House Democrats, Biden claimed, “It is clearly within the right of the government to determine what type of weapons can be owned by the public.”

How can this azz be VP when he clearly doesn't understand the Amendments and their purpose.
We're in trouble... big trouble.
drywalldog Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 4:00 PM EST
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They clearly have had the right to determine what kind of weapon you have and can use. Otherwise everyone on here would own fully automatic weapons, bazookas, grenades, or even tanks. They just havn't got down to limiting semi- auto rifles and pistols. Jack's post is crap.
tegulator Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 5:31 PM EST
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^ +1
dpnewell Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 5:37 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
They clearly have had the right to determine what kind of weapon you have and can use. Otherwise everyone on here would own fully automatic weapons, bazookas, grenades, or even tanks. They just havn't got down to limiting semi- auto rifles and pistols. Jack's post is crap.


Those statements show your total ignorance of the Constitution, it's Amendments and the Founding Father's original intent. Believe the lies and drink the koolaid if it makes you feel better about the dictator want-to-be you helped to elect.

I could show you in the Federalist Papers and other documents, that a citizenry armed equal to, if not better then, the government, was our Founding Father's intent, as a deterrent to tyranny, but it would be a total waste of my time. Our Founding Fathers would consider most of what our elected officials have done in the past 100 years or so as treason, and I’m including in that, Bush and his treacherous Patriot Act. They'd be rolling in their graves if they knew the freedoms that "We The People" have p*ssed away in exchange for perceived, false security. Freedoms that so many died and bled to win.
tegulator Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 5:52 PM EST
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Saying "the Founders would have thought X" doesn't add any weight to your argument because 1.) they've all been dead for at least 150 years, 2.) The Founding Fathers were a very diverse group of men; each with various interests, goals, and political philosophies, so it's virtually impossible to not only define what they would "want," but also to classify who "they" are, and 3.) How does one claim to have the prophetic power to say what this group of people wanted in the first place? Let's get past this cliched line of reasoning.
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 6:56 PM EST
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Î think they wrote down what they wanted somewhere.....Think
jackconrad Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 7:06 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
They clearly have had the right to determine what kind of weapon you have and can use. Otherwise everyone on here would own fully automatic weapons, bazookas, grenades, or even tanks. They just havn't got down to limiting semi- auto rifles and pistols. Jack's post is crap.


It is from the Associated Press
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#26 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 8:46 PM EST
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tegulator wrote:
Saying "the Founders would have thought X" doesn't add any weight to your argument because 1.) they've all been dead for at least 150 years, 2.) The Founding Fathers were a very diverse group of men; each with various interests, goals, and political philosophies, so it's virtually impossible to not only define what they would "want," but also to classify who "they" are, and 3.) How does one claim to have the prophetic power to say what this group of people wanted in the first place? Let's get past this cliched line of reasoning.


Typical liberal smoke screen. Read the Federalist Papers and then tell me we have no idea of what their intent was.
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#27 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 10:13 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
They clearly have had the right to determine what kind of weapon you have and can use. Otherwise everyone on here would own fully automatic weapons, bazookas, grenades, or even tanks. They just havn't got down to limiting semi- auto rifles and pistols. Jack's post is crap.


If you've got the money...you can buy what you want!

Just ask any DuPont!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 10:14 PM EST
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tegulator wrote:
Saying "the Founders would have thought X" doesn't add any weight to your argument because 1.) they've all been dead for at least 150 years, 2.) The Founding Fathers were a very diverse group of men; each with various interests, goals, and political philosophies, so it's virtually impossible to not only define what they would "want," but also to classify who "they" are, and 3.) How does one claim to have the prophetic power to say what this group of people wanted in the first place? Let's get past this cliched line of reasoning.



Yeah...so let's not read what they wrote...let's just let lawyers and lobbyists write legislation and do whatever...yeah...it's worked wonders.

Look at the mess they created.

A far cry from the "experiment" they created.
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#29 Posted: Sat, Feb 9 2013, 10:32 PM EST
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He prolly watched Hawaii five-O the other night.... Mellow
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#30 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 9:52 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
He prolly watched Hawaii five-O the other night.... Mellow


" Book him Dano"
TMCTLT Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 11:50 AM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
They clearly have had the right to determine what kind of weapon you have and can use. Otherwise everyone on here would own fully automatic weapons, bazookas, grenades, or even tanks. They just havn't got down to limiting semi- auto rifles and pistols. Jack's post is crap.



They have HAD the right because they TOOK the right, just like they TAKE everything else. And clearly if it were up to you Nancy....the Only thing we'd be allowed to have is a squirt gun.
drywalldog Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 12:37 PM EST
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Who you callin Nancy punk?
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#33 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 12:41 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Typical liberal smoke screen. Read the Federalist Papers and then tell me we have no idea of what their intent was.

+1

Very interesting to read and truly understand the wisdom of our Country's founders
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#34 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 12:45 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
Who you callin Nancy punk?



Who you callin punk Nancy????
drywalldog Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 12:47 PM EST
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Easy to be tough on here, you!
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#36 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 12:50 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
Easy to be tough on here, you!



No easier than giving all your rights away to a bunch of **** people who stopped representing you and me a Long time ago.....wake the fuckup!!!!

And I will NOT waste my time on anyone who can not only write S H I T like this....but actually believe it!!!!!

drywalldog wrote:
They clearly have had the right to determine what kind of weapon you have and can use. Otherwise everyone on here would own fully automatic weapons, bazookas, grenades, or even tanks. They just havn't got down to limiting semi- auto rifles and pistols. Jack's post is crap.
drywalldog Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 12:54 PM EST
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I never said it was right, the cows been outa that barn a long time, too many here whine like they care only to hear themselves.
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#38 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:02 PM EST
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Sometimes once the cows are out of the barn, beef needs to be for dinner.
jackconrad Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:06 PM EST
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I have been Politically active for 30 years and held / Hold many offices. Currently i hold a local office in a town who was hoplessly in debt 10 years ago . It is now completly out of debt and the taxes have not been increased since i have held office, oh and we haven't started a War either but don't come here to take our guns or it will be WAR!
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#40 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:08 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
I never said it was right, the cows been outa that barn a long time, too many here whine like they care only to hear themselves.



Can't argue with you here, but our ability to defend ourselves is THE most important Amendment in Our Constituition. Without it....we're **** ed....game over
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#41 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:09 PM EST
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They have already determined that they can dictate what kind of weapons you can have, if not to your liking, you must reverse time, and gun laws.
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#42 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:09 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
I have been Politically active for 30 years and held / Hold many offices. Currently i hold a local office in a town who was hoplessly in debt 10 years ago . It is now completly out of debt and the taxes have not been increased since i have held office, oh and we haven't started a War either but don't come here to take our guns or it will be WAR!




Applause Beer
drywalldog Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:13 PM EST
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It was a crap post Jack because they have been limiting what you can own for 45 years.
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#44 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:17 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
It was a crap post Jack because they have been limiting what you can own for 45 years.


you are correct,,,d'oh!
drywalldog Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:20 PM EST
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You guys ever seen a swat team in action. I live in the sticks, and have twice. The little town i live in has its own wheeled tank, with a battering ram, get where im goim?
jackconrad Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:32 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
It was a crap post Jack because they have been limiting what you can own for 45 years.

Again it was from The Associated Press. Call them and complain ..
drywalldog Offline
#47 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:35 PM EST
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Sorry, I was on the phone.
drywalldog Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 1:39 PM EST
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Hey Jack I heard Fox News is now left leanin, think HD got to them?
jackconrad Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 7:04 PM EST
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Somebody shoot me..
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#50 Posted: Sun, Feb 10 2013, 9:30 PM EST
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Hey dog, I'm guessing you're just stiring da pot and really don't approve of the gun control thing... like I said earlier, I don't expect anything be undone... protecting our current rights is the agenda... is it a waste of time as you seem to imply..?? I don't think so... but if you're just poking the bear just to do so just say so... Mellow
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