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Some of our leftist brothers may be on to something.

Trickle down economics didn't work as intended. Even Stockman discredited his own concept. Only the rich got richer.

And perhaps there IS a need for a Government safety net for those in need. The idea, that we as conservatives proposed, that there was no need for Government programs due to family and church is generally a pipe dream these days. Family or church help nonwithstanding, if it weren't for unemployment comp, welfare, school lunches, public housing, and Social Security many would be in dire straits & out on the street or worse.Many of these could have been subsidized many times over if we had not had costly military interventions such as the the 3 TRILLION dollar war in Iraq & current incursion in Afghanistan. What? so that the war doesn't come here??? All the while we keep our borders unguarded. Phfffft.

What is your take? Do you really think that adopting Libertarian ideas with minimal Government is the way to go? Everyone doing their own thing with little or no Government (sans Government pensions to ANYONE as well)?

Ok, we know that TARP was mostly an unmitigated failure & that the two idiots in charge are void of any substantive ideas but should the social services system that's been in place be trimmed at the expense of a military presence abroad? Btw, I used to believe in a big military as well until I discovered how much the industrial complex was skimming from the top even before they were assigned lucrative potato peeling and underpant cleaning contracts. Not to mention institutional bribes to bloody Third World chieftains with Swiss accounts.

Actually after the Occupooper Movement...It's safe to say they're just ON something...pot...LSD...Heroin...Molly...Who knows...who cares...just take a bath and go back to the basement!




What REALLY happened...the squeeze on the middle class...squash them like a bug...annihilate them...can't get over the fence? There's a steamroller coming!



I believe on 9/12/01 I uttered the famous stance..."Landmines, Gun Turrets & Predator Drones"...maybe it was later...all I know is if we were using them now...we'd be better off. As for Govt. assistance? Just thank FDR for *****uing up the America that was created for all of us. That America...wasn't good enough. What America needs is a big Santa Claus...giving free toys to everybody...even after a couple of wars...oh, you lost? Hmmmm...we'll just pay to rebuild you back better than before and you don't have to pay a damn thing...President Reagan had it correct ...The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'



At this point, what do you say to trying it? Really. We've tried their way and look where that got us.




Mostly? MOSTLY? MOSTLY? No. It WAS an utter and sheer failure of epic proportions. Gut it all like a fish. Start holding trials and break out the guillotines (PLURAL!) for the Wall Street criminals and washington DC insiders...audit the Federal Reserve first and run them through it too! Hold new elections and run them through it as well and then have another round of elections...FFS...every year or so...have some guys go running through the Capital Builiding shooting off those evil assault weapons...just to keep 'em on their toes! No, it needs to implode. I told people to read "The Empire of Debt"...did they? The happy ending is there for all to see.

I think we agree more than we disagree Doc. Problem with pulling out the net from under our citizenry in order to finance corporations and maintain big hat dictators is that it's morally wrong AND fiscally crazy because it's waaaaay more expensive to do the latter.

Many of the left have starry idealism as they don dirty Che shirts & wave Mao's little red book of nonsense but so do many on the right who talk about self determination and responsibility as they collect checks from the Government or work for fatcat corporations that suck the lifeblood out of the taxpayer.

Nah, plenty of room in the barrel. Just some rotten apples that need to be tossed is all.

Trickle down economics......trickle up economics.....trickle down government......

Each have the same result: The rich get richer.

The rich are still rich. The bourgeoisie are still bourgeoisie. The peasants are still peasants but now owned by the democratic government instead of the King.

I wouldn't prop up either one! Safety nets, corporations...gut it.

Money to big hatted lunatics...end it.

As far as the Ché shirt...I have one...I wear it to herfs sometimes...its the iconic picture of him but it has Mickey Mouse ears on it...Capitalism over Gang warfare is what it symbolizes to me...Capitalism wins!

"Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony."

Oh, Lord please . . . not “the Cone” again . . . .

It makes me wonder if things ever really change.

For millennia mankind has a ruling class that was beyond reproach, we enslaved each other, and had widely held belief in ideas that served to organize and control even though they were not true.

Sure, believing that the ruling king is divine has fallen out of fashion. But most of the worlds’ people know better than to speak out against the injustice of the ruler.

People are born into royalty today (royalty of wealth) and into peasantry (poverty). A few move from one class to the next, but it is the exception not the rule.




Sure, things look different - and we have new buzz words for old ideas to rub in the ground (“cone “ reference), but are things really the same as they have always been?

"Albatross!! Albatross!! Albatross!!"
"What flavour is it?"

You can still eat cake.

Je vous en prie

someone has your peeps? can I help?

Like suge knight?

nah he's still stupid. that's like me pointing out the stop sign is red. doesn't make me smart.

No...he's still pretty stupid too!

Yeah, I miss him too. Poor misunderstood bastid.

Flat tax.