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Dead people don’t need cell phones.....
DrafterX Offline
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Lawmaker looks to rein in program after free cell phones sent to dead people
By Barnini Chakraborty

Published March 11, 2013

WASHINGTON – Dead people don’t need cell phones.

That’s the message Rep. Tim Griffin of Arkansas wants to send Congress, after he says a controversial government-backed program that helps provide phones to low-income Americans ended up sending mobiles to the dead relatives of his constituents. Griffin has introduced a bill that targets the phone hand-out program, which has ballooned into a fiscal headache for the government.

“This program demands reform,” Griffin told FoxNews.com on Monday. “There is a lot of waste in it and we need to be asking ourselves, ‘Where do we draw the line? Do we give everybody an iPad next? A computer? Is that the role the federal government should be playing?’”

Griffin said the story of dead relatives receiving cell phones was relayed to him by constituents. He added: “I’ve also gotten calls from people who say their employees were bragging about having 10 phones.”

The program in question provides limited phone service to people on government assistance. Ideally, Griffin says he would like to get rid of the program created in the mid-80s altogether, but he knows he lacks the support to kill it -- and instead is asking Congress to scale it back. Griffin’s plan would get rid of the cell phones and provide only landline service and phones.

Started in 1985, the Lifeline program was created to make sure people with low income levels weren’t cut off from emergency services, job searches or communication with family members. The program is funded by charges that appear on the monthly bills of every wireless and landline phone customer in the country. The money goes into a Universal Service Fund that pulls its revenues from fees that show up on most telephone bills as the “federal universal service charge.” The fees range but can go up to $3.22 a month.

The cost of the program has tripled to $2.2 billion in 2012 from $819 million in 2008. The risk of abuse has also risen.

“This program is completely ridiculous and it speaks to the point that we are careless with taxpayer dollars,” Griffin said.

Though the program has spanned multiple administrations, some conservatives have recently nicknamed it the "Obamaphone" after a viral video in 2012 showed an Obama supporter touting the mobiles.

Some, though, say it isn't feasible to limit the service. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 34 percent of American homes use only wireless telephones. The CDC also reports that nearly one of every six American homes received all or almost all of their calls on a wireless telephone despite also having a landline.

Under the program, there have been reports of multiple phones going to one person, cell phones being sent to underage residents and perhaps most shocking – phones being sent to the deceased.

The free phone program is open to those who meet federal poverty guidelines, or are on food stamps, Medicaid or other federal assistance programs. Under the rules, only one Lifeline subscriber is allowed per household. However, a recent audit of the program by the Federal Communications Commission revealed that 41 percent of the nearly 6 million subscribers did not meet the requirements.

The FCC defended the program to FoxNews.com and says it has helped tens of millions of low-income Americans afford basic phone options. But even they admit the program has holes. Last year the agency tightened the rules for the program and required carriers to verify existing members were eligible. The agency estimated that 15 percent of its users would be weeded out under the new process. The FCC also said its new rules have eliminated more than 1.1 million duplicate subscriptions and saved $214 million in 2012.

On Feb. 13, the FCC Enforcement Bureau issued citations to 11 people with multiple Lifeline accounts. It was the first time the FCC has taken action against individual subscribers for violating the “one per household” rule.

And on Feb. 26, the commission announced that two wireless Lifeline providers agreed to payments totaling more than $1 million to end an investigation into whether the companies violated program rules in Oklahoma.

But for some like Griffin, it doesn’t matter. He sees the program as a handout and one that should not be footed by taxpayers.

“I understand the FCC is trying to rein the abuse and my first question is, ‘What took you so long?'" he said. “I hear people saying we need this and we need that as a society but is it really fair for the government – i.e. the taxpayers – to provide people with cell phones? I don’t think so.”



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jackconrad Offline
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Burner02 Offline
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They can vote, so they deserve a free cell phone!


Don't understand why you as a tax payer would have a problem with this program!
























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It's the same thing that plagues all government-run programs - there's no bottom line. As a politican he should already know that.

Why didn't congress or the president do something about it sooner? Congress, as the body of government that has to approve the budget every year, should have seen this ballooning over the past few years. And they're just now introducing a bill to do...what? I'd be more interested in that than yapping about the mistakes. If there's an issue with a program and you have oversight over the budget of said program, then fix it or get rid of it. As for the president, he should have noticed this at some point in the last couple of years and tried to start something on his end. Should have already been fixed by now.

My opinion is that it should be terminated. Way too many pay-as-you-go phones and other low cost offers out there, and I'm tired of those silly misc charges that show up every month. People that work their ass off don't deserve to pay for another's laziness.

cacman Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
The program in question provides limited phone service to people on government assistance. Ideally, Griffin says he would like to get rid of the program created in the mid-80s altogether, but he knows he lacks the support to kill it -- and instead is asking Congress to scale it back. Griffin’s plan would get rid of the cell phones and provide only landline service and phones.

Started in 1985, the Lifeline program was created to make sure people with low income levels weren’t cut off from emergency services, job searches or communication with family members. The program is funded by charges that appear on the monthly bills of every wireless and landline phone customer in the country. The money goes into a Universal Service Fund that pulls its revenues from fees that show up on most telephone bills as the “federal universal service charge.” The fees range but can go up to $3.22 a month.

If the early pioneers could make it across the country on horseback and wagons without a cell phone, there's no reason anyone should be getting a free cell phone today, especially if funded with tax-payer dollars. It should at least be voluntary if you wish to contribute to mooching program.
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DrafterX wrote:
The program is funded by charges that appear on the monthly bills of every wireless and landline phone customer in the country. The money goes into a Universal Service Fund that pulls its revenues from fees that show up on most telephone bills as the “federal universal service charge.” The fees range but can go up to $3.22 a month.





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Burner02 wrote:
They can vote, so they deserve a free cell phone!


Don't understand why you as a tax payer would have a problem with this program!
























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lol the nerve of people now a days trying to take things from dead people Shame on you Shame on you you should be ashamed ram27bat
cacman Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

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Can you imagine Zombie Elvis doing a Verizon commercial?

5 inch collared jumpsuit...little cape...tattered and torn...dirty...face looking like Beetlejuice..."Ah ya...'scuse me momma...can ya hear me now? Uh huh...I'ma all shook up!"


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paulkeck wrote:
lol the nerve of people now a days trying to take things from dead people Shame on you Shame on you you should be ashamed ram27bat


Typical of conservatives....is there no group they won’t try to disenfranchise?

























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cacman wrote:
If the early pioneers could make it across the country on horseback and wagons without a cell phone, there's no reason anyone should be getting a free cell phone today, especially if funded with tax-payer . . . .


Now this is not the stupidest thing ever posted on Cbid. Still, I think we should bookmark it in case there is a contest.
chemyst Offline
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I lived without cable TV for 10+ years.

Never had a cell phone until business forced me
to get one last year. Got a pre-paid cheapy.

Stuff is overrated!

Save your money. Retire with more than Soc. Sec.
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