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Buckwheat Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 3:23 PM EST
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Liberal on all things. I'm pretty conservative on fiscal and military things but liberal on environmental and some social policies. As are most people. fog

JMO.
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 3:30 PM EST
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So you're a conservative.
Brewha Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 5:16 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
So you're a conservative.

Stunning clarity of thought.
jackconrad Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 8:40 PM EST
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I'm for what makes the most sense.. I resent being labeld as a Conserviaive or Liberal. As for a Party i am Republican. We are frequently mistaken for Ultra Cons because the Liberal Media has projected us as that . Well we were the Party that ended Slavery and lowered taxes when America was enslaved by BIG Taxes. Why anyone would want to be a Liberal is beyond my comprehension..
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 8:45 PM EST
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Assumptions keep decent folks divided.
calavera Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 8:57 PM EST
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I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

I am socially liberal in that I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Death penalty- hell yes. Abortion- up to the mother, not my business.

Love Jesus, hate goats- good for you. Love goats, hate Jesus- good for you too.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.

Social programs- hell no. Work or starve.


Does that make me liberal or conservative? Don't know.



J
jetblasted Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 9:01 PM EST
Joined: 08-30-2004
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calavera wrote:
I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

I am socially liberal in that I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Death penalty- hell yes. Abortion- up to the mother, not my business.

Love Jesus, hate goats- good for you. Love goats, hate Jesus- good for you too.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.

Social programs- hell no. Work or starve.

J


+1
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 9:22 PM EST
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Posts: 44,257
ZRX1200 wrote:
Assumptions keep decent folks divided.

well said.
engletl Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 9:24 PM EST
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Posts: 26,493
calavera wrote:
I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

I am socially liberal in that I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Death penalty- hell yes. Abortion- up to the mother, not my business.

Love Jesus, hate goats- good for you. Love goats, hate Jesus- good for you too.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.

Social programs- hell no. Work or starve.


Does that make me liberal or conservative? Don't know.



J

Sounds kind of Libertarian/Constitutional to me
jetblasted Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Apr 29 2013, 9:32 PM EST
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EBT - WE EAT FOR FREE
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 5:57 AM EST
Joined: 10-21-2000
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calavera wrote:
I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

I am socially liberal in that I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Death penalty- hell yes. Abortion- up to the mother, not my business.

Love Jesus, hate goats- good for you. Love goats, hate Jesus- good for you too.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.

Social programs- hell no. Work or starve.


Does that make me liberal or conservative? Don't know.



J



I couldn't say it much better myself. I agree with what you said and would stand shoulder to shoulder with you. I believe there will be a day where we will have to because the progressives are giving away the free candy. One of these days they will have to see a dentist. What a day of reckoning that will be.
TMCTLT Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 6:44 AM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
calavera wrote:
I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

I am socially liberal in that I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Death penalty- hell yes. Abortion- up to the mother, not my business.

Love Jesus, hate goats- good for you. Love goats, hate Jesus- good for you too.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.

Social programs- hell no. Work or starve.


Does that make me liberal or conservative? Don't know.



J



I'm with you and the good Dr. on all but this, getting pregnant IS already up to the Mother, it's a preventable health care issue and yet we ALL know there are babies out there being killed too far along in the pregnancy. And the ones you really want to get them don't as they use their children as "free meal tickets"
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 8:07 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Stunning clarity of thought.



You want clarity of thought? Get back to work and toil, you prole.
Buckwheat Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 9:09 AM EST
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calavera wrote:
I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.


J


I understand that your point is that we should be tough on repeat offenders but It looks like you don't believe in the 5th, 6th and 7th amendments to the constitution? I guess it's OK to just throw out any parts of the constitution/bill of rights that are "troublesome". I don't believe that you can call yourself a Constitutional conservative and not accept all of the articles and amendments to the constitution.

I also know that the constitution is and has always been open to modernization and interpretation (as is built into the constitution in Article V)

JMO fog
Brewha Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 9:51 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
You want clarity of thought? Get back to work and toil, you prole.

Spare me your Marxist name calling, you bourgeois wanna be.
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 9:59 AM EST
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If you don't like it amend it.

Don't bend and shape it with black robed activists.
SMGBobbyScott Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 10:01 AM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
EBT - WE EAT FOR FREE


Mayhap, but you don't eat much!

d'oh!
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:04 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
If you don't like it amend it.

Don't bend and shape it with black robed activists.


The white robed ones are preferred in here
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:08 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
The white robed ones are preferred in here



Totally Uncalled For Race Card Outrage
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:10 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Totally Uncalled For Race Card Outrage



I think he was refering to the dudes at his favorite bath house... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:13 PM EST
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I was talking about the folks at sherridans frozen custard....
teedubbya Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:16 PM EST
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so there
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:18 PM EST
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I didn't think you could edit..... Mellow


I saw what you wrote... Not talking
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:23 PM EST
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do klan guys really have those formal ceremonies like in the movies or do they just sit around and drink beer and stuff..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:27 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I didn't think you could edit..... Mellow


I saw what you wrote... Not talking



LOL

I was hoping someone would... just to torment them
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 3:27 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
do klan guys really have those formal ceremonies like in the movies or do they just sit around and drink beer and stuff..?? Huh


they dress pretty much like everyone in here and their meetings have some weird term.... I think it is herf or something like that
Brewha Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 4:37 PM EST
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And what's this whole deal of burning crosses on folks lawns?
If they's supposed to be Christian, why would they burn a cross?
Are they trying to throw us off the track?
Is they stoopeed?
Is it like some voodoo foonabla that is supposed to scare people without fire insurance?
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 4:39 PM EST
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Poor CROS
calavera Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 6:13 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I understand that your point is that we should be tough on repeat offenders but It looks like you don't believe in the 5th, 6th and 7th amendments to the constitution? I guess it's OK to just throw out any parts of the constitution/bill of rights that are "troublesome". I don't believe that you can call yourself a Constitutional conservative and not accept all of the articles and amendments to the constitution.

I also know that the constitution is and has always been open to modernization and interpretation (as is built into the constitution in Article V)

JMO fog



I do accept all parts of the constitution. I believe that the constitution of the United States only applies to citizens of the United States. People that are not citizens that enter the United States illegally are invaders or maybe even insurgents and should be treated as such. The constitution of the United States does not apply to them.

Article V provides for amending the constitution. I failed to look at amending the constitution as modernizing it, though I guess that is what is being done when it is amended. I always looked at amending the constitution as a way of addressing an issue that did not exist when it was written, which is another way of saying modernizing it, so you are correct.

I was referring more to the quibbling over trying to redefine what words mean to try to twist what was written by the authors to make the parts of the constitution mean something different than what was intended.








J
tegulator Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 6:42 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
And what's this whole deal of burning crosses on folks lawns?


The Klan burns crosses so the light of Jesus can go out into the dark world...it's odd, I know.
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2013, 11:46 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I understand that your point is that we should be tough on repeat offenders but It looks like you don't believe in the 5th, 6th and 7th amendments to the constitution? I guess it's OK to just throw out any parts of the constitution/bill of rights that are "troublesome". I don't believe that you can call yourself a Constitutional conservative and not accept all of the articles and amendments to the constitution.

I also know that the constitution is and has always been open to modernization and interpretation (as is built into the constitution in Article V)

JMO fog


Great point. Don't forget the 4th!!!
chemyst Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, May 1 2013, 2:21 PM EST
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As are most people????

I resent being stereotyped.
tj2001cobra Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, May 2 2013, 1:25 AM EST
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Posts: 28,561
calavera wrote:
I am fiscally quite conservative and am Constitutionally conservative- I believe that it means what it says, and is not open to modernization or interpretation.

I am socially liberal in that I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Death penalty- hell yes. Abortion- up to the mother, not my business.

Love Jesus, hate goats- good for you. Love goats, hate Jesus- good for you too.

Close the borders. Here illegally once- throw them out. Here illegally twice- death penalty.

Social programs- hell no. Work or starve.


Does that make me liberal or conservative? Don't know.



J


+100000
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, May 2 2013, 9:42 AM EST
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
Brewha



because they don't know how to make a star of david.

they always make a sherrif's badge instead.
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